I noticed that Sliver Queen has spiked to $114 unfortunately probably putting it of range of most players. Reserved list doing it's work.
sigh.
Yeah, I noticed that as well. This deck in general is not very budget friendly, admittedly, but the RL has been doing work over the past few years. The general isn't very relevant, to be honest. You could easily swap in Sliver Hivelord as an indestructible blocker, and possibly even get more success out of him.
I wish they would make either a 5-color planeswalker that can be your general (the new Nicol Bolas being able to do that would have been amazing), or just something that synergizes well with planeswalkers (i.e. five color Atraxa)
Other decent five color generals for Superfriends include Niv-Mizzet Reborn because we run a lot of cards with color pairs and The Ur-Dragon because he's an advantage engine that also cheats cards into play, albeit a less effective one outside his home. I've also had some success with Progenitus in the past as a late game "well, I guess I'm just going to hit your face now." He also makes planeswalkers with global pumps better, i.e Ajani Steadfast. The only legal five color legendary creature that I think actively work against our deck is Child of Alara because that hits our board presence where it hurts. Everything else has pros, cons, quirks, and/or is a placeholder. Good luck sending a message with Atogatog I suppose.
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Spark double seems like a no brainer auto include. i havent tested it yet, waiting for war mythic to come in b4 i make swaps.
I was thinking of trying a lot though.
I want to try
ashiok
bolas
JtMS
spark double
comand the dread horde
elderspell
deliver unto evil
karns bastion.
i also want to get a copy of teferi's protection.
List is tight though. The only stuff I can really see as being replaceable is the countermagic and the 2cmc library manipulation enchantments.
Yeah, I noticed that as well. This deck in general is not very budget friendly, admittedly, but the RL has been doing work over the past few years. The general isn't very relevant, to be honest. You could easily swap in Sliver Hivelord as an indestructible blocker, and possibly even get more success out of him.
I wish they would make either a 5-color planeswalker that can be your general (the new Nicol Bolas being able to do that would have been amazing), or just something that synergizes well with planeswalkers (i.e. five color Atraxa)
Lame. I got rid of my Sliver Queen last year, before the spike. And agreed, the general is less relevant for superfriends - I switched to Ramos, Dragon Engine and honestly feel like he's better.
Yeah, I noticed that as well. This deck in general is not very budget friendly, admittedly, but the RL has been doing work over the past few years. The general isn't very relevant, to be honest. You could easily swap in Sliver Hivelord as an indestructible blocker, and possibly even get more success out of him.
I wish they would make either a 5-color planeswalker that can be your general (the new Nicol Bolas being able to do that would have been amazing), or just something that synergizes well with planeswalkers (i.e. five color Atraxa)
Lame. I got rid of my Sliver Queen last year, before the spike. And agreed, the general is less relevant for superfriends - I switched to Ramos, Dragon Engine and honestly feel like he's better.
I admittedly rarely cast Sliver Queen, so the general is pretty much whatever people think works best.
Mehhhhhhhhhhh. It’s colorless and it’s only busted if we have 4 or more walkers out. It’s seems much worse then other mana rocks, unless we are already winning.
Mehhhhhhhhhhh. It’s colorless and it’s only busted if we have 4 or more walkers out. It’s seems much worse then other mana rocks, unless we are already winning.
It is super cute though.
That's sort of where I was leaning on for it. I would possibly like to test it, but yeah I would say unless you have at least two out, it's not worth it.
Spark double seems like a no brainer auto include. i havent tested it yet, waiting for war mythic to come in b4 i make swaps.
I was thinking of trying a lot though.
I want to try
ashiok
bolas
JtMS
spark double
comand the dread horde
elderspell
deliver unto evil
karns bastion.
i also want to get a copy of teferi's protection.
List is tight though. The only stuff I can really see as being replaceable is the countermagic and the 2cmc library manipulation enchantments.
What else do you have in the deck that can do Cleansing Nova's job?
I generally prioritize mass destruction over recursion because in my experience, blowing out a board has more of an impact than recursion with a restriction on top of it. HOWEVER, if you feel you have your destruction bases covered (with Cleansing Nova, I'm specifically referring to the destroy all artifacts and enchantments part), then yes, go ahead. Even though I'm playing skeptic here, it is an excellent recursion card for the deck.
Also, since Cleansing Nova has flexibility, you may want to consider a less flexible mass destruction card in the deck as well.
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What else do you have in the deck that can do Cleansing Nova's job?
I generally prioritize mass destruction over recursion because in my experience, blowing out a board has more of an impact than recursion with a restriction on top of it. HOWEVER, if you feel you have your destruction bases covered (with Cleansing Nova, I'm specifically referring to the destroy all artifacts and enchantments part), then yes, go ahead. Even though I'm playing skeptic here, it is an excellent recursion card for the deck.
Also, since Cleansing Nova has flexibility, you may want to consider a less flexible mass destruction card in the deck as well.
Yeah, I'm debating here. Possibly considering Sphinx's Revelation as well. But I do run Austere Command, so mass artifact/enchantment removal is covered.
Also, opinions on Aminatou, the Fateshifter? Taking another look at it, as it's plus is alright, and it's minus (not ult) seems really good as it allows us to renew other planeswalkers and activate their abiltiies twice a turn. 3 CMC is also appealing, but the ultimate is fairly mediocre.
Spark double seems like a no brainer auto include. i havent tested it yet, waiting for war mythic to come in b4 i make swaps.
I was thinking of trying a lot though.
I want to try
ashiok
bolas
JtMS
spark double
comand the dread horde
elderspell
deliver unto evil
karns bastion.
i also want to get a copy of teferi's protection.
List is tight though. The only stuff I can really see as being replaceable is the countermagic and the 2cmc library manipulation enchantments.
I think you should try adding Samut to your deck. With doubling season it is insanely gross. Have you ever paid 4 mana to draw 14 gain 14 and put 14 permanents into play? It’s nutted.
I did cut a bunch of the other cards you mentioned.
Spark double seems like a no brainer auto include. i havent tested it yet, waiting for war mythic to come in b4 i make swaps.
I was thinking of trying a lot though.
I want to try
ashiok
bolas
JtMS
spark double
comand the dread horde
elderspell
deliver unto evil
karns bastion.
i also want to get a copy of teferi's protection.
List is tight though. The only stuff I can really see as being replaceable is the countermagic and the 2cmc library manipulation enchantments.
I think you should try adding Samut to your deck. With doubling season it is insanely gross. Have you ever paid 4 mana to draw 14 gain 14 and put 14 permanents into play? It’s nutted.
I did cut a bunch of the other cards you mentioned.
Her ultimate is good, don't get me wrong, but that's literally the only interaction where she's good: with doubling season. It's waaay too limited in my opinion.
Spark double seems like a no brainer auto include. i havent tested it yet, waiting for war mythic to come in b4 i make swaps.
I was thinking of trying a lot though.
I want to try
ashiok
bolas
JtMS
spark double
comand the dread horde
elderspell
deliver unto evil
karns bastion.
i also want to get a copy of teferi's protection.
List is tight though. The only stuff I can really see as being replaceable is the countermagic and the 2cmc library manipulation enchantments.
I think you should try adding Samut to your deck. With doubling season it is insanely gross. Have you ever paid 4 mana to draw 14 gain 14 and put 14 permanents into play? It’s nutted.
I did cut a bunch of the other cards you mentioned.
Her ultimate is good, don't get me wrong, but that's literally the only interaction where she's good: with doubling season. It's waaay too limited in my opinion.
I agree. But it’s litterally a two card win the game combo. Her narrowness does not matter when you win the game every time you resolve both.
Yeah, I'm debating here. Possibly considering Sphinx's Revelation as well. But I do run Austere Command, so mass artifact/enchantment removal is covered.
Also, opinions on Aminatou, the Fateshifter? Taking another look at it, as it's plus is alright, and it's minus (not ult) seems really good as it allows us to renew other planeswalkers and activate their abilities twice a turn. 3 CMC is also appealing, but the ultimate is fairly mediocre.
Animatou is fine. She works best in her own deck, but she's not a detriment to the deck. Her plus is useful if you can start shuffling your deck to get rid of dead cards (and if money isn't an issue, that's easy with fetchlands). Her small minus is excellent, and fun fact, is another way to get the Chain Veil + Teferi Temporal Archmage combo going. So, if you find room for her, go for it. I will say though I generally play her in Atraxa because there's extra space from dropping red or her own deck.
I agree. But it’s litterally a two card win the game combo. Her narrowness does not matter when you win the game every time you resolve both.
The problem with Samut + Doubling Season is that Doubling Season is a one card combo that does not need Samut to win the game on the spot. The situation you're describing with Doubling Season works with almost any other planeswalker, so why not use them instead of Samut? Samut should really go into superfriends decks that rely on their general or just in heavier creature decks instead.
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The problem with Samut + Doubling Season is that Doubling Season is a one card combo that does not need Samut to win the game on the spot. The situation you're describing with Doubling Season works with almost any other planeswalker, so why not use them instead of Samut? Samut should really go into superfriends decks that rely on their general or just in heavier creature decks instead.
Sisay, Weatherlight Captain gets +1/+1 for each color among other legendary permanents you control.
WUBRG: Search your library for a legendary permanent card with CMC less than Sisay's power and put it onto the battlefield, then shuffle your library.
2/2
Worst case scenario, you have nothing and she's just a 2/2 that looks for CMC 1 or less Legends. That sounds pretty useless, but you always have legendary lands like Kher Keep, Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth, or The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale for those who have one.
Tutoring planeswalkers to the field is great. Tutoring Planeswalkers to the field with strings attached... is going to need testing and work. I think she'll do fine for the archetype, but there will be some redoing the archetype to accommodate her strange restrictions.
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This is actually an interesting planeswalker, in my opinion, because we run all 10 fetchlands. The minus is fairly underwhelming, admittedly, but still.
This is actually an interesting planeswalker, in my opinion, because we run all 10 fetchlands. The minus is fairly underwhelming, admittedly, but still.
This is a two drop that gains incremental advantage. Not super scary either. It reads a little win more, but I enjoy the low cmc and ultimate is fine. I’ll test it. Probably won’t keep it though
I think it’ll make the cut. Between fetchlands and getting this out post Obliterate in those builds, this seems like a nice recovery card. Also it’s a two drop legend that gives Sisay, Weatherlight Captain +2/+2.
Also, while not the main focus of the deck, some of the cards we run are worth randomly retracing from time to time.
Niv-Mizzet Reborn
Feather, the Redeemed
Estrid, the Masked
Teshar
Tymna/Ravos
Najeela, Blade-Blossom
Firesong & Sunspeaker
Zur the Enchanter
Lazav, the Multifarious
Ishai+Reyhan
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Yeah, I noticed that as well. This deck in general is not very budget friendly, admittedly, but the RL has been doing work over the past few years. The general isn't very relevant, to be honest. You could easily swap in Sliver Hivelord as an indestructible blocker, and possibly even get more success out of him.
I wish they would make either a 5-color planeswalker that can be your general (the new Nicol Bolas being able to do that would have been amazing), or just something that synergizes well with planeswalkers (i.e. five color Atraxa)
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I did. Got the congratulations email and all. No shipping yet though. Which is worrisome. Have you received a shipping notice?
I kind of wont believe I got it till it’s in my hands.
Also, opinions on Spark Double?
I got tracking today.
Spark double seems like a no brainer auto include. i havent tested it yet, waiting for war mythic to come in b4 i make swaps.
I was thinking of trying a lot though.
I want to try
ashiok
bolas
JtMS
spark double
comand the dread horde
elderspell
deliver unto evil
karns bastion.
i also want to get a copy of teferi's protection.
List is tight though. The only stuff I can really see as being replaceable is the countermagic and the 2cmc library manipulation enchantments.
Any suggestions on cuts?
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Mehhhhhhhhhhh. It’s colorless and it’s only busted if we have 4 or more walkers out. It’s seems much worse then other mana rocks, unless we are already winning.
It is super cute though.
I generally prioritize mass destruction over recursion because in my experience, blowing out a board has more of an impact than recursion with a restriction on top of it. HOWEVER, if you feel you have your destruction bases covered (with Cleansing Nova, I'm specifically referring to the destroy all artifacts and enchantments part), then yes, go ahead. Even though I'm playing skeptic here, it is an excellent recursion card for the deck.
Also, since Cleansing Nova has flexibility, you may want to consider a less flexible mass destruction card in the deck as well.
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Also, opinions on Aminatou, the Fateshifter? Taking another look at it, as it's plus is alright, and it's minus (not ult) seems really good as it allows us to renew other planeswalkers and activate their abiltiies twice a turn. 3 CMC is also appealing, but the ultimate is fairly mediocre.
I think you should try adding Samut to your deck. With doubling season it is insanely gross. Have you ever paid 4 mana to draw 14 gain 14 and put 14 permanents into play? It’s nutted.
I did cut a bunch of the other cards you mentioned.
I agree. But it’s litterally a two card win the game combo. Her narrowness does not matter when you win the game every time you resolve both.
Animatou is fine. She works best in her own deck, but she's not a detriment to the deck. Her plus is useful if you can start shuffling your deck to get rid of dead cards (and if money isn't an issue, that's easy with fetchlands). Her small minus is excellent, and fun fact, is another way to get the Chain Veil + Teferi Temporal Archmage combo going. So, if you find room for her, go for it. I will say though I generally play her in Atraxa because there's extra space from dropping red or her own deck.
The problem with Samut + Doubling Season is that Doubling Season is a one card combo that does not need Samut to win the game on the spot. The situation you're describing with Doubling Season works with almost any other planeswalker, so why not use them instead of Samut? Samut should really go into superfriends decks that rely on their general or just in heavier creature decks instead.
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Sisay, Weatherlight Captain gets +1/+1 for each color among other legendary permanents you control.
WUBRG: Search your library for a legendary permanent card with CMC less than Sisay's power and put it onto the battlefield, then shuffle your library.
2/2
Worst case scenario, you have nothing and she's just a 2/2 that looks for CMC 1 or less Legends. That sounds pretty useless, but you always have legendary lands like Kher Keep, Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth, or The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale for those who have one.
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This is actually an interesting planeswalker, in my opinion, because we run all 10 fetchlands. The minus is fairly underwhelming, admittedly, but still.
This is a two drop that gains incremental advantage. Not super scary either. It reads a little win more, but I enjoy the low cmc and ultimate is fine. I’ll test it. Probably won’t keep it though
Also, while not the main focus of the deck, some of the cards we run are worth randomly retracing from time to time.
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