Quote from benjameenbear »Thanks for the game reports. It's fun to read how other people are playing their decks and the interesting plays that happen during games. Magic is just as much about the experience of playing as what you're playing and I like reading them.
Quote from benjameenbear »1) Mono-Black big mana is an extremely powerful way to play mono-colors generally and Black has some of the stronger plays available to this type of strategy. I can think of at least 5 pieces that can double your mana, besides Cabal Coffers. The key here that I see missing is something to consistently do outside of the engine that you most commonly play (Deathmantle shenanigans) along with some utility (ie: card advantage and removal). You have Exsanguinate and Drana, but what about Geth, Lord of the Vault? I think if you add a few more elements that take advantage of your mana doublers, you will find that games will be less redundant, you'll flesh out your threat package, and you'll create different angles of attack.
Quote from benjameenbear »2) I would recommend keeping it mono-Black, to take advantage of your big mana prodcution, but I would suggest making Oona, Queen of the Fae your general. You can still play mono-Black with all of your mana doublers, keep Cabal Coffers pure and unadulterated, and open up a few utility pieces that complement your Token strategy that seems to be the most common way for you to win the game. Dire Undercurrents, Memory Plunder, and Shadow of Doubt are the best ones to add. By making Oona your commander, you now have something to do with large amounts of mana if nothing else is going for oyu. Exiling opponents' spells is criminally undervalued in EDH because you're removing answers, combo pieces, and thin them out for a potential decking win. Oona makes Skullclamp utterly ridiculous and Dire Undercurrents becomes a legitimate way to guarantee a win with your Token strategy (it's hard to lose when your opponents have no cards in hand). Further, the Rogues are fliers! A legitimate swarm win can happen here. Oh, you also have access to have more mana rocks to accelerate you. I used to have a mono-Black Oona list, it's in my retired EDH list in my signature, and it could easily take over a game while not being especially threatening compared to Scion, Azami, Damia, or Derevi. I should check out my Oona list again, cause I don't remember what I had in it. It's post #221 in the thread I link to.
Quote from benjameenbear »If you were to add an additional color and still use a token theme, White is the way to go with Teysa, the 3 CMC one. I like Oona better though, so you be the judge.
I hope this has given you some food for thought. Mono-Color decks should be more widespread, and I'm glad that Red and White got some Commander support cause they sucked as mono-Colors. Long live B/U/G as the superior colors of EDH!
Quote from Oopssorryy »This is a bit of a necro, but do you have a current deck list? I've been building decent decks out of some of the mono pre cons, and this is the next one on my list. For some reason it's a lot of fun to play mono commanders to me.
Quote from serrot_29 »Quote from Oopssorryy »This is a bit of a necro, but do you have a current deck list? I've been building decent decks out of some of the mono pre cons, and this is the next one on my list. For some reason it's a lot of fun to play mono commanders to me.I've not been able to play since the last time I played. Life keeps getting in the way. I believe the posted list is my current list. I have many testing iterations, but nothing concrete. If I were to play it today, the posted deck is what I'd be running. This list is rather fun to play. I dropped Kaalia and Nekusar because they were not this.
Quote from Oopssorryy »Quote from serrot_29 »Quote from Oopssorryy »This is a bit of a necro, but do you have a current deck list? I've been building decent decks out of some of the mono pre cons, and this is the next one on my list. For some reason it's a lot of fun to play mono commanders to me.I've not been able to play since the last time I played. Life keeps getting in the way. I believe the posted list is my current list. I have many testing iterations, but nothing concrete. If I were to play it today, the posted deck is what I'd be running. This list is rather fun to play. I dropped Kaalia and Nekusar because they were not this.
Thanks! I'll build it, and take it for a spin. I need to diverify, as people are getting mad at me for blowing up their lands, or vomiting elves on to the board in early turns. Time for something more grindy.
Quote from Iso »In the first game, I cast Kozilek on T8, opponent scooped
It was pretty linear before that
Nim Deathmantle, Arena, Orrery, Chalice, Gravy Titan, Coffers
Oh, and I Skeletal Scryed at my opponent's EoT.
Opponent was playing Daxos and the game was fairly even (with them possibly even having a better board) until Kozilek came out
I can tell you exactly what they played if you care; if not, here's what I took from it:
With so many tokens and colorless cards, Devotion seems a little weak in the deck.
Both for Gary and Nykthos.
Quote from Iso »In the second game (which I'll tell you about in a moment), Nykthos only ever got me 5 mana at the most - which is a drop in the bucket compared to the 60 I generated on one turn.
So, second game was a little more exciting. My opponent played Sydri
The game would have gone on longer except we forgot that she had Crawlspace out and she wasn't playing towards that
Ob and Gravy Titan generated tons of tokens and life advantage
Phyrexian Tower was great with Skullclamp + token generators
I got Vesuva, Thespian Stage, Coffers, Urborg, Magus, and Nykthos all out
Drana boardwiped once, then immediately got <killed> on on my opponent's turn
Shriekmaw was LVP in this game
I was actually a little concerned about the fact that I was getting <a lot> of ramp (Chalice kicked 7 times) and nothing to use it on
Then I got Phyrexian Reclamation, generated 60 mana, and Drana smashed face (Lightning Greaves)
I was sad not to have Phyrexian Altar there, because I wanted to use Gary a bajillion times in one turn for the win but I didn't have a sac outlet except Tower, and I had tapped that to sacrifice my Skullclamped creature.
Ob gained me lots of life, and I even -2'd him to death on one turn to cast him and recast and -2’d him again on the same turn
The deck sort of putzes around and fizzles if you get lots of draw and no mana or lots of mana and no draw, but Ob can generate demons and a little lifegain for protection if need be, so, that's an interesting touch
Anyway, it was pretty nuts, and a blast to play. I'll get more game reports to you as I use the deck more!
Seems like it'd be weak to aggro/creature-heavy builds, but maybe the hands I got just weren't too well-suited for that kind of game. Time will tell!
My opponent wouldn't let me keep enough counters on him to ult
So I just gained a bunch of life and spawned a bunch of demons
But yeah, if you're open to the idea, I definitely recommend a Phyrexian Altar
Oh, I Reanimated Gary at one point, which was funny to me because Devotion was 5 upon his entry
Since there's a lot of draw power, I might recommend a discard outlet, as well - perhaps Urborg Syphon-Mage?
It's a sort of not great card that definitely fits in with the theme
Quote from Iso »Started off with Ob today...things are going poorly
Damia, Narset, Kalemne, and Karametra are the opponents
Kalemne is *****ting out Giants like mad
Someone took control of Magus of the Coffers
Someone board wiped, so, things are less absurd. Put out Arena, so, should start getting stuff soon.
Tutored for Crypt Ghast so I can cast Ulamog in 2 turns
If I draw a Swamp, I can Extort for both Ulamog AND SoFaF
Spot removal on Ulamog and the Magus I reanimated Ulamog got exiled. I just wanna cast Kozilek, dammit!
Someone used Blatant Thievery and I misplayed by using Toxic Deluge before moving the Sword's equip target Dx So he still has an 8/8 Gravy Titan
Cast Kozilek and he immediately got exiled with something that lets my opponent play him for free :l
Exsanguinated for 25, gained 100 life - but someone has a Sorin in their hand, sooo.
Aaand the guy who took Gravy Titan and Kozilek killed me because I had Ghast and Revenant out. He chose wisely because I had Kokusho, Deathmantle, and Gate in my hand.
Lots of counterspells and removal floating around this game. At least we killed someone with Exsanguinate.
Yeah, it was a fun game - mostly because it felt like I was constantly on the verge of getting smashed but held on. My misplay was probably what cost me the game, ultimately, but it was a challenge and fun. I drew Gate and it just sort of sat in my hand, but everything else felt like it was going to do well at some point or another. The Titans would have done greatly if they had stayed around. Crypt Ghast into Nirkana Revenant and SoFaF was fun, especially since Crypt Ghast could attack that turn and there was an open player.
Feels like the deck could use an Expedition Map just to grab Coffers on a more regular basis.
Quote from Iso »Lost because the newbie in the game could not assess threats properly and kept targeting me, plus he was running Anafenza, the Foremost
The other guy was running that dude that turns lands into 0/0 creatures with 3 +1/+1 counters on them (Noyan Dar, Roil Shaper)
All I was doing was generating mana and tokens, and also played Kozilek (though he got exiled immediately)
I couldn't use Skullclamp's draw ability because all creatures that died were exiled as a result of Anafenza
That said, Malevolent Awakening is deffoz better for the deck than Gate
Opening hand had Urborg so I T2 Tutored for Coffers
I'd have had some crazy Abhorrent Overlord + Harpy Tokens + Skullclamp + Awakening shenanigans if not for Anafenza
Drana was also immediately exiled when she came out, though I got a good use of her ability in
The Anafenza guy kept retaliating when I targeted him with stuff and I wanted to be like "DUDE I'm targeting you because you're going to keep targeting me because the other guy is the real threat in this game and I need to put out some answers for what he has" but I figured I'd just let him find out what a 6/6 Darksteel Citadel could do to him.
Quote from KingAtheos »I love the deck. Might I suggest Gravestorm? On turn 3, it is a good source of draw and grave hate. I cannot count how many cards I have drawn from this. Best of all, in a multiplayer setting you get to choose which opponent.