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Quote from cyberium_neo »Aye, my next target for a Grixis. He can be an "artifact" general Izzet ask for if they make the deck without black. :3 I'd Intuition for Shorecrasher Elemental, Blighted Bat, and Gilded Lotus, cage Shorecrasher first for protection and cheap blink, then cage Bat next then Lotus, that's an easy infinite mana right there and only need 5 mana to start, thx to Shorecrasher's blink lasts only for that moment (compare to Aetherling's till end of turn). Having Lightning Greaves in play already makes it even easier. Kindred Discovery trigger upon entering battlefield and with the combo above you can draw your whole library and do whatever you wish with the now final boss Mairsil.
Quote from DirkGently »Quote from cyberium_neo »Aye, my next target for a Grixis. He can be an "artifact" general Izzet ask for if they make the deck without black. :3 I'd Intuition for Shorecrasher Elemental, Blighted Bat, and Gilded Lotus, cage Shorecrasher first for protection and cheap blink, then cage Bat next then Lotus, that's an easy infinite mana right there and only need 5 mana to start, thx to Shorecrasher's blink lasts only for that moment (compare to Aetherling's till end of turn). Having Lightning Greaves in play already makes it even easier. Kindred Discovery trigger upon entering battlefield and with the combo above you can draw your whole library and do whatever you wish with the now final boss Mairsil.Am I missing something with that combo? Shorecrasher elemental returns the creature to play face down, which I think is allowed as long as it's not a token. So I think Mairsil will etb face down and be unable to flip face up? I really hope so, at least. Although the deck is already pretty nasty even without that element. aetherling+nev's disk combo is already quite gross.
Quote from esoteric117 »Love the name of the first category, 10/10 is true . As tap heavy as this deck plans to be I'm curious why Morphling or maybe Pili-Pala aren't here? Also in my first two games I found that Mairsil is extremely mana hungry and I don't know if Uyo would be good for the long game (I'll admit that her ability could be sweet at times though). Also while it may cost an arm and a leg mana-wise Soul of New Phyrexia was awesome with Nev disk caged (and for you boompile as well). The emphasis on rocks (which can be caged) over lands is actually a pretty smart way to go here and I might look into a similar ratio. Great deck!
Mairsil, the Pretender has all activated abilities of all cards you own in exile with cage counters on them. You may activate each of those abilities only once each turn.
Quote from dachivale »Understandable that you don't like him, I do think to easily he is broken... the once per turn clause still does nothing to keep him from going infinite, just need the right cards and strategy to pull it off... I do think some fun things can be done and a bit of a toolbox idea would be fun... but generally people wil tend to think you wil go infinite and rightfully so I think... there are quite a few possibilities for going infinite I have seen and found already... I might go with Inalla still for the commander for the deck, due to the broken-ness of the way Mairsil can be played... And just go with more fun with wizards kinda build... though Inalla is also quite easily break-able I noticed...
Quote from Caelesetos »Have you considered Tawnos's Coffin? It allows you to blink Mairsil for 2 mana reseting his abilities. If you have an untap ability caged by him then its even better, plus he won't lose any counters or aura's you may have placed on him.