MTG Salvation

I've been dallying about with a UBR discard deck, and it's been in multiple states of being for the past 3 months. Care to rate, and tell me what I need to make it better? I'm trying to keep creatures out of this, and don't want to involve mill. The overall "goal" of this is to get out a Megrim (or two), force the opponent to top deck, and then Quest for the Nihil Stone.

well....there is some discard you're not even packing that would be mighty useful.

arguable best discard ever:

• hymn to tourach
  
• duress
  
• thoughtseize

If you're trying for the megrim win, then you're going to need something like urza's guilt, but only as a one or two of. It's a 2 card 10 damage combo to them, provided they have one card in hand.

and the rack is definitely better than quest for the nihil stone as a primary damage condition.

consider better creature removal: smallpox, smother, doom blade (bleh), innocent blood, damnation!!!

Above post is on the right track, though he didn't touch upon the fact that your land count is definitely too high. 21-22 will be fine.

I took out the Rakdos Carnarium and Dimir Aqueduct, and replaced them with two Pyroclasm. Should I replace all the Unsummon with Smother? I have a few Doomblade, but I felt that they'd be more of a sideboard card because of the nonblack aspect.

Update: I bought 4 Dimir Guildmages, 3 Drudge Skeletons, and 2 more Duress, because I can't afford The Rack or Hymns. Got rid of the grixis panoramas as well.

I just find it odd that this deck doesn't run any Nyxathids. It seems to fit perfect in this deck since you play with so much discard.

Also, have you tried dark rituals with Liliana Vess?

Overall, this deck seems interesting.

Alright, got rid of Dimir Guildmage and Abyssal Specter. Blue is now completely gone.

I'll be heading to the cardshop today to sell Terra Eternal, Auriok Windwalker, 2 Stoneforge Mystic, 2 Marshal's Anthem, Spirit of the Hearth, Celestial Mantle, 2 Dragonmaster Outcast, 2 Abyssal Persecutor, Repay in Kind, Blood Tribute, Sunpetal Grove, Strength of the Tajuru, Hollowborn Barghest, Ob Nixilis, the Fallen, 2 Butcher of Malakir, Kalastria Highborn, and Madrush Cyclops.

Hopefully that'll be enough for a few Hymns to Tourach and The Rack.

Seems like an interesting Standard deck. But for Legacy, discard alone isn't good enough. Some of the best Legacy decks would actually be helped by a Blightning to the face.

You should look into Pox builds. They combine global discard, creature removal, and land destruction with powerful recursion. Judging by what you posted, it seems to be your preferred style of play.

If you really want to stick with the deck framework you have, I would make a couple of changes:

- As Cecilia said, Nyxathid seems good here. I would run 2-3.
- Hymn to Tourach is an auto 4-of.
- Badlands would help fix the mana base.
- Sign in Blood is rather weak as a draw spell. I think that a way to recur what you discard would be better. Maybe Crucible of Worlds. Then add some mutual land sacrifice like Pox...
- Sinkhole is strong in this sort of deck. You make sure that the only cards in opponents' hands are ones that they don't have the mana for.
- Drudge Skeletons? Why?
- Damnation seems better than Pyroclasm.
- Quest for the Nihil Stone is not good. There are many better options, such as The Rack.

You might not want to sell your Abyssal Persecutor. It can be good in certain Pox decks.

In case you didn't know, the thread for Pox is in Legacy's Proven Competitive thread.

Just got back from the store, and sold only a handful of the cards posted. I kept the Abyssal Persecutors, which is a plus. I bought 2 Liliana Vess, 4 Dark Ritual, 4 The Rack, and 4 Hymn to Tourach, for a combined total of $18. Nyxathid was $2 each, and if I could have sold more of my cards, I would have gotten a set of them.

UPDATED DECK:

Just sold some lands, and got 4 Nyxathid, 1 Underworld Dreams, and 2 Funeral Charm

Deck as follows:

Didn't participate in the tourney itself but I played casually against FNM players in between rounds. Didn't get stomped too badly. I traded a Coat of Arms for a Pox, and bought 4 Hypnotic Specters. Simplified the deck.

all that removal and discard would love some help in the form of a clock. Have you considered jagged poppet for testing?

I'm slowly turning this into a Pox deck.