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I don't see why everyone is so confused about the (SoM)expansion symbol. It's clearly a croissant. A metal croissant.
All hail croissant block.
did a couple of rounds with the deck yesterday, and I must say I'm seriously thinking about cutting the land count down to 20. I found myself drawing way too many lands at times, and Dark Ritual late-game don't help much either.
I'd also like to pack more beef into the deck as well. But I'm not quite sure which one. Jötun Grunt was good, but he just seem to die whenever you needed him the most. I.e to push the last dmg ftw. went out of stuff to put back in the graveyard.
Ive seen a lot of lists out there using Nantuko Shade, so maybe he should step up in place of Grunts? On the other hand, I like that Grunts slow down treshold, goyfs, KotR og co.
Anyway, first thing I'll try at least is -2 land +2 Thoughtseize.. Getting the early hand disruption is crucial. Its when the deck needs to be on beatdown mode things get a bit disappointing. A bunch of 2/2's just can't do the job fast enough. your opponent drops a 3/3 or mutavault with a lord and you're pushed back. Things get better if you can follow up a couple of beaters with Elspeth, but that doesn't always happen.
Originally Posted by fearmeordie View Post
"HAI GUISE I PLAYZ T2 AND WANT TO PLAY LEGACY BUT NO HAZ CASHZ"
Originally Posted by Sir Aureus View Post
I don't see why everyone is so confused about the (SoM)expansion symbol. It's clearly a croissant. A metal croissant.
All hail croissant block.
I didn't get to use Pithing Needle all that much. But Extirpate and Engineered Plague did good from the bench.
I managed to needle my opponents Aether Vial one game vs. Slivers. But I still lost due to bad top-deck mode. I never drew into one of my 2 SDT's and even though I had the god hand start with ritual, kozilek + hymn. He just dropped A muscle sliver and the guy that gives them shroud + a Mutavault and my 2/2's were no match. I got him down to 4 lives or so before he managed to build up a defense.
Originally Posted by fearmeordie View Post
"HAI GUISE I PLAYZ T2 AND WANT TO PLAY LEGACY BUT NO HAZ CASHZ"
Originally Posted by Sir Aureus View Post
I don't see why everyone is so confused about the (SoM)expansion symbol. It's clearly a croissant. A metal croissant.
All hail croissant block.
I know, but never drew another needle when I needed it. I tried to waste it but he made it into a sliver in response so I couldn't target it anymore. (We were unsure if this would work though, but I guess it does).
Originally Posted by fearmeordie View Post
"HAI GUISE I PLAYZ T2 AND WANT TO PLAY LEGACY BUT NO HAZ CASHZ"
Originally Posted by Sir Aureus View Post
I don't see why everyone is so confused about the (SoM)expansion symbol. It's clearly a croissant. A metal croissant.
All hail croissant block.
You're not targeting it. The errata on all of the slivers are: "This card gains shroud" and you're targeting a specific card. You can even name something like troll ascetic with needle, since it doesnt directly target.
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Yeah, but I tried to use Wasteland on his Mutavault, he then responded with making it a sliver. Would wasteland fizzle since mutavault just got shroud?
Yeah, but I tried to use Wasteland on his Mutavault, he then responded with making it a sliver. Would wasteland fizzle since mutavault just got shroud?
Yes it would, as target legality is checked upon resolution of an activated ability, too.
Originally Posted by fearmeordie View Post
"HAI GUISE I PLAYZ T2 AND WANT TO PLAY LEGACY BUT NO HAZ CASHZ"
Originally Posted by Sir Aureus View Post
I don't see why everyone is so confused about the (SoM)expansion symbol. It's clearly a croissant. A metal croissant.
All hail croissant block.
I can recommend Gatekeeper of Malakir. He is really good. But lacks the punch if you can't keep up the pressure. With Equipments and/or Elspeth, things should work out pretty well.
How has Stoneforge Mystic with the equipment package worked out for you?
Originally Posted by fearmeordie View Post
"HAI GUISE I PLAYZ T2 AND WANT TO PLAY LEGACY BUT NO HAZ CASHZ"
Originally Posted by Sir Aureus View Post
I don't see why everyone is so confused about the (SoM)expansion symbol. It's clearly a croissant. A metal croissant.
All hail croissant block.
The card I run that I haven't seen on any of these lists that I run is bitterblossom. It's really good with basilisk collar, which I originally ran to fill a slot, but it turned out it was really good. It also turns gatekeeper of malakir into a straight up 2-for-1, and it can be tutored for with stoneforge mystic.
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It's kind of another moment when we throw our hands up and go "DAMMIT universe, why you gotta always make me look bad in front of everyone?".
Originally Posted by fearmeordie View Post
"HAI GUISE I PLAYZ T2 AND WANT TO PLAY LEGACY BUT NO HAZ CASHZ"
Originally Posted by Sir Aureus View Post
I don't see why everyone is so confused about the (SoM)expansion symbol. It's clearly a croissant. A metal croissant.
All hail croissant block.
If I were playing 3 color deadguy, I'd probably add Explosives in the SB, to combat 3cc and 1cc threats since most of my permanents are 2cc you won't want to blow explosives up unless you're really in the deep.
Originally Posted by fearmeordie View Post
"HAI GUISE I PLAYZ T2 AND WANT TO PLAY LEGACY BUT NO HAZ CASHZ"
Originally Posted by Sir Aureus View Post
I don't see why everyone is so confused about the (SoM)expansion symbol. It's clearly a croissant. A metal croissant.
All hail croissant block.
Originally Posted by fearmeordie View Post
"HAI GUISE I PLAYZ T2 AND WANT TO PLAY LEGACY BUT NO HAZ CASHZ"
Originally Posted by Sir Aureus View Post
I don't see why everyone is so confused about the (SoM)expansion symbol. It's clearly a croissant. A metal croissant.
All hail croissant block.
A new primer would be good. I could probably try and cook something up tomorrow/later today. Just make sure to give me feed-back on what should be inn/out of the primer.
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OK, I've posted a new Primer thread in the Established Competitive section. I just hope I don't get hazzled by any mods if I did wrong in posting in the established competitive section. I don't know if the new primer is any better than the old one. But at least we now have the option of improving it.
I really don't see a reason for polluting this forum with another thread (deadguy/pikula stands at at least three distinct threads of discussion about it by now, with at least two of those being historical), but to save others from the annoyance to have to look for the "new" thread, here's where it's located: http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=261351
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I'd also like to pack more beef into the deck as well. But I'm not quite sure which one. Jötun Grunt was good, but he just seem to die whenever you needed him the most. I.e to push the last dmg ftw. went out of stuff to put back in the graveyard.
Ive seen a lot of lists out there using Nantuko Shade, so maybe he should step up in place of Grunts? On the other hand, I like that Grunts slow down treshold, goyfs, KotR og co.
Anyway, first thing I'll try at least is -2 land +2 Thoughtseize.. Getting the early hand disruption is crucial. Its when the deck needs to be on beatdown mode things get a bit disappointing. A bunch of 2/2's just can't do the job fast enough. your opponent drops a 3/3 or mutavault with a lord and you're pushed back. Things get better if you can follow up a couple of beaters with Elspeth, but that doesn't always happen.
thoughts?
How was the side board?
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I managed to needle my opponents Aether Vial one game vs. Slivers. But I still lost due to bad top-deck mode. I never drew into one of my 2 SDT's and even though I had the god hand start with ritual, kozilek + hymn. He just dropped A muscle sliver and the guy that gives them shroud + a Mutavault and my 2/2's were no match. I got him down to 4 lives or so before he managed to build up a defense.
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You're not targeting it. The errata on all of the slivers are: "This card gains shroud" and you're targeting a specific card. You can even name something like troll ascetic with needle, since it doesnt directly target.
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Yes it would, as target legality is checked upon resolution of an activated ability, too.
@GUdrus what about hyppie? he is solid.
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How has Stoneforge Mystic with the equipment package worked out for you?
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Surely this would hurt you alot more than your opponent?
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I just prefere explosives over deed at the moment.
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EDIT:
OK, I've posted a new Primer thread in the Established Competitive section. I just hope I don't get hazzled by any mods if I did wrong in posting in the established competitive section. I don't know if the new primer is any better than the old one. But at least we now have the option of improving it.
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