Same with shared fate, 2x D. rit, 3x SDT, 1x Petal, solitary confinement, EE, form of the dragon and freakin SB D. rit. Not to mention the lack of tendrils.
IMO jank, but I guess it did well.
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'Geddon is bad (What deck would you want to hit with it?), but I can see how good Confinement and Form of the Dragon could be in any meta with lots of aggro and burn. Shared Fate is marginal, though, even if you could Show and Tell into it.
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Legacy: ANT, Sneak and Show, Omnitell, Oops All Spells
Modern: Grishoalbrand, Infect, UR Storm, Ad Nauseam, Lantern Control
I think you missed the point. You can't Meditate into a Shelldock/Emrakul pile and not lose.
But even with a Tendril's pile, you need Top plus Meditate mana. Brainstorm piles only need Top + 1U and generally make more storm.
Nah I'm just not a believer of Shelldock Isle as a consistency after Dooms Day. I'm much prefer the use of Mosswort Bridge with a Ug Stiflenought deck kinda idea using Phyrexian Dreadnought, goyfs, and man lands as engines to cheat Emrakul into play. I just think that the same things that hose storm generally jose Shelldock Isle, and Shelldock Isle gets beat all day long by the ever so common Wasteland, and random jank.
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That comment was painful but I'll stick to explaining that shelldock/emrakul is the counterbalance plan...because resolving 1 3cc spell against cbtop is a bit easier then resolving a range of lower costed spells...cbtop also usually doesn't run wasteland, stifle, standstill, blood moon, orim's chant or the plethora of other spells that can interfere...thopters does run humility/pithing needle sometimes though.
Well there are CB decks with wasteland.
And that's why you duress/seize before DD (for chants and like).
Wipe away/Chain of Vapor and needles are for permanents in play.
Yup but I always find the lack of DD piles for the shelldock route actually and everyone has a different variant, so wondering what you guys have? =)
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'Geddon is bad (What deck would you want to hit with it?), but I can see how good Confinement and Form of the Dragon could be in any meta with lots of aggro and burn. Shared Fate is marginal, though, even if you could Show and Tell into it.
the geddon is for 43 land. i actually like the guys show and tell build the faeries make it possible to sheldock the turn it comes out and it has a nice tool box.
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My Decks that have been BANNED
DRS Jund | Kiki-Pod | Bloom Titan | Splinter Twin | KCI
the geddon is for 43 land. i actually like the guys show and tell build the faeries make it possible to sheldock the turn it comes out and it has a nice tool box.
Yea, except the deck isn't Rev614 anymore.
Current Rev614 runs fae with shelldock too, but due to the lack of M tutors, there's no more FoW backup =(
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Besides that there's a card missing in Seubert's list, what are your thoughts on the builds?
These are examples of current DDFT lists. While there used to be a thread on DDFT on these forums, I believe all current discussion takes place on storm boards.
The 2nd Place list is actually -1 Ponder (it's listed at 61 cards).
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I hope Mystical gets unbanned (I know, it's not gonna happen but meh :P)
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IMO jank, but I guess it did well.
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Modern: Grishoalbrand, Infect, UR Storm, Ad Nauseam, Lantern Control
Can you sense the pattern here?
What are the shelldock/emrakul piles you guys have in mind?
The one I managed was:
Brainstorm
Shelldock isle
Needle/Duress
Lotus petal
Emrakul
With this pile, you need UU mana + two random cards in hand the turn after doomsday to get emrakul in play.
Pretty sure there are other better piles. Anyone with the fae pile too?
Legacy Competitive
BUReanimatorUB
RUSneaky ShowUR(Dismantled)
GBUReanimatorUBG(Retired)
(Pre-Mystical Tutor Banning)
{RIP:July 1, 2010}
Legacy Casual
UWBag Of TricksWU
GWEnchantressWG(Budget/In construction)
WSoul SistersW
Legacy Casual - Retired
UBT.E.S. - The EGG-pic StormBU
BGrave ExistenceB
Sig by Me =)
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Because you can't spell slaughter without laughter.
But even with a Tendril's pile, you need Top plus Meditate mana. Brainstorm piles only need Top + 1U and generally make more storm.
Nah I'm just not a believer of Shelldock Isle as a consistency after Dooms Day. I'm much prefer the use of Mosswort Bridge with a Ug Stiflenought deck kinda idea using Phyrexian Dreadnought, goyfs, and man lands as engines to cheat Emrakul into play. I just think that the same things that hose storm generally jose Shelldock Isle, and Shelldock Isle gets beat all day long by the ever so common Wasteland, and random jank.
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Click here for trade threadTrade thread under reconstruction.
Because you can't spell slaughter without laughter.
Well there are CB decks with wasteland.
And that's why you duress/seize before DD (for chants and like).
Wipe away/Chain of Vapor and needles are for permanents in play.
Yup but I always find the lack of DD piles for the shelldock route actually and everyone has a different variant, so wondering what you guys have? =)
Legacy Competitive
BUReanimatorUB
RUSneaky ShowUR(Dismantled)
GBUReanimatorUBG(Retired)
(Pre-Mystical Tutor Banning)
{RIP:July 1, 2010}
Legacy Casual
UWBag Of TricksWU
GWEnchantressWG(Budget/In construction)
WSoul SistersW
Legacy Casual - Retired
UBT.E.S. - The EGG-pic StormBU
BGrave ExistenceB
Sig by Me =)
the geddon is for 43 land. i actually like the guys show and tell build the faeries make it possible to sheldock the turn it comes out and it has a nice tool box.
Tooth & Nail........Grishoalbrand....Living Dominance....Tezzerator.........Vannifar Pod
My Decks that have been BANNED
DRS Jund | Kiki-Pod | Bloom Titan | Splinter Twin | KCI
Yea, except the deck isn't Rev614 anymore.
Current Rev614 runs fae with shelldock too, but due to the lack of M tutors, there's no more FoW backup =(
Legacy Competitive
BUReanimatorUB
RUSneaky ShowUR(Dismantled)
GBUReanimatorUBG(Retired)
(Pre-Mystical Tutor Banning)
{RIP:July 1, 2010}
Legacy Casual
UWBag Of TricksWU
GWEnchantressWG(Budget/In construction)
WSoul SistersW
Legacy Casual - Retired
UBT.E.S. - The EGG-pic StormBU
BGrave ExistenceB
Sig by Me =)
These are examples of current DDFT lists. While there used to be a thread on DDFT on these forums, I believe all current discussion takes place on storm boards.
The 2nd Place list is actually -1 Ponder (it's listed at 61 cards).
The 3rd Place list is +1 Underground Sea.
I'm building this list:
1x Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
1x Cloud of Faeries
Spells:
4x Brainstorm
3x Ponder
1x Wipe Away
1x Meditate
4x Doomsday
4x Duress
4x Dark Ritual
3x Infernal Tutor
3x Thoughtseize
2x Cabal Ritual
1x Tendrils of Agony
1x Ill-Gotten Gains
4x Lion's Eye Diamond
4x Sensei's Divining Top
Lands:
4x Polluted Delta
2x Misty Rainforest
2x Verdant Catacombs
2x Underground Sea
2x Island
1x Swamp
1x Tropical Island
1x Bayou
1x Shelldock Isle
4x Xantid Swarm
4x Pithing Needle
2x Krosan Grip
1x Echoing Truth
1x Chain of Vapor
1x Hurkyl's Recall
1x Reverent Silence
1x Infernal Tutor
Playtested it in proxies, runs pretty well
Standard: XDon't play.X
Legacy: BUReanimatorUB
Vintage: URBWGDBRU
Current MTGO Player and paper reseller/speculator.
I hope Mystical gets unbanned (I know, it's not gonna happen but meh :P)
Standard: XDon't play.X
Legacy: BUReanimatorUB
Vintage: URBWGDBRU