So I have been playing a G/W knight deck similar to the one posted with some slight changes but one of the major problems I'm having with is against land.dec in my meta. Beyond fast aggro what else can you do?
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I have a similar knight deck that I splashed black for Haakon, Stromglad Scourge, Vindicate, and Black Knight. I like your list a lot. I think you may be missing out on Student of Warfare and every other knight with first strike by not playing Basilisk Collar. First strike and Deathtouch is a great combination because it kills whatever tries to block it
I have been using this deck for the past week against my friends and is really fun to play with. The only issue I have may be the mana curve, which I will try to fix. But it is really not an issue if I shuffle right.
Lands (20):
16 Plains
04 Wasteland
Creatures (28):
02 Hero of Bladehold <- new
02 Kinsbaile Cavalier
04 Knight Exemplar
04 Knight of the White Orchid
04 Mirran Crusader <- new
04 Mother of Runes <- One of the best one drops in the game, right next to Goblin Lackey (if left unanswered) and Aether Vial.
04 Stoneforge Mystic
04 Student of Warfare
Others (12)
04 Aether Vial
01 Basilisk Collar
01 Darksteel Plate <- new
04 Path to Exile
01 Sword of Fire and Ice
01 Umezawa's Jitte
I had been using paper for the new cards for play test. I love Mirran Crusader. He laughs at PtE, StP, and Tarmogoyph. Basilisk Collar is insane when attached to creatures with First Strike. Even better, it with Mirrin Crusader and Sword of Fire and Ice, it is basically free card advantage. But mom can accomplishes the same as well.
I had been switching between Hero of Bladehold and Wilt-Leaf Liege. Wilt-Leaf Liege is a good lord who has a nice P/T. Hero of Bladehold on the other hand can produce more creatures and is a decent lord. The only downfall is that she produces soldiers, not knights. I might go back with Wilt-Leaf Liege or someone else.
Lastly, Darksteel Plate is insane. As long as you use Stoneforge Mystic to bring it the bring it to the field, it can't be countered. Attach it to Knight Exemplar and you complete the indestructible circuit (much more practical than getting two Exemplars), and I can accomplish this as soon as turn four, which I guess it slow for legacy.
These are the other knights I had used and own:
2 Knight of Meadowgrain
2 Knight of the Holy Nimbus
1 Sigiled Paladin
4 Silver Knight
2 Stillmoon Cavalier
1 White Knight
1 White Shield Crusader
4 Wilt-Leaf Cavaliers <- Love this card. Can't fit though.
2 Wilt-Leaf Liege
I have not tried Accorder Paladin yet though.
I still think knight lacks synergy. They are more about individualism than a team player.
Note: I am a casual player and so are my friends. I am not spending money on dual lands for green unless I can magically get them for cheap.
... you know what, since I had been using this on paper, I wrote protection from white and green, not black and green. Ah, can't wait to tell my friends. Thanks for the catch. lol
... you know what, since I had been using this on paper, I wrote protection from white and green, not black and green. Ah, can't wait to tell my friends. Thanks for the catch. lol
Now I need to test the card further.
O_O wellllllllllllll then..
it's a shame phyrexian crusader has infect, or he'd be great in a black splash for knights
It really isn't an issue. We still have mom and Knight Exemplar against removals. Mirran Crusader is just not as powerful as I thought it was. I should have just printed him out.
Darksteel Plate is probably my favorite card from this new set. One is enough though I think since it is searchable with Stoneforge Mystic.
Here's my current list. It's still mono-white. I think I prefer it that way, even if I had the money for dual lands. Hopefully, more good knights will be printed in white, or at least enough to make mono white knights a viable alternative to multicolor. But then again, even multicolor knights aren't that competitive yet. I consider my build semi-casual, perhaps not as good as it could be (W/G is probably the more competitive build), but Mirran Crusader makes it better, I think. Anyway, here's my mono-white build. Oh, and the deck's name is a reference to George R.R. Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire series.
Tithe is another nice card that works well with Path, and helps to make up for the fact that I'm only playing 20 lands. I do run a more extensive Stoneforge Package with a backup Jitte and Basilisk Collar, as well as 4 Mystics to search them out. I really want to put a Sword of Fire and Ice or a Jitte on a Mirran Crusader
Mirran Crusader definitely makes a mono W build a strong choice. Although Knight of the Reliquary tricks are just so good. He can do some broken things and green also allows you some great sideboard options.
In a mono W list though, wouldn't you want Elspeth and Kinsbaile somewhere in there? I mean..how do you answer moat or humility??
Moat...yeah, I forgot about that one. To be honest, I haven't played this deck in a long time, seeing Mirran Crusader spoiled made me want to rebuild it. Previous versions of the deck had maindecked O-Rings, Stillmoon Cavalier, and other stuff to get around Moat. I might take out the Needles for 3 Oblivion Rings. War Priest of Thune might also be a possibility, since Vialing it in gets around Counterbalance and Force of Will. Damnit, can't believe I forgot about Moat
As for Elspeth and Kinsbaile, maybe, but I'd prefer to stay away from 4 drops. My build plays a little more aggressively than the G/W version (I think, I've never played it or seen it played though), and turn 4-5 I generally want to be equipping stuff and swinging. I know both Elspeth and Cavalier also increase my creatures' damage output, but this version is a bit more focused on equipment.
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What you do you think about Leonin Skyhunter? I just bought four of those the other day and is pretty good because it allows my SoFi to hit for free, which is essential for card advantage. It can also dodge Moat (meta dependent, really).
It seems that the consensus for the best knights are currently:
- Knight Exemplar
- Knight of the White Orchid
- Mirran Crusader <- needs testing but looks promising
- Student of Warfare
Also, I guess I am the only one who likes Darksteel Plate.
zahdeh, why do you like Elspeth, Knight-Errant?
EnemyWithin, I do not own Tithe but it looks like a nice card. It gives us the mana advantage we need in the long run and does thin the deck down. I will try to pick them up. How does it affect the short run though? I essentially just payed mana to put Plains in my hand and statistically, we have a very high chance of drawing Plains anyways. I'd rather use a one-drop of Mom. Also, I use Knight of the White Orchid to fix PtE anyways. But, I'll look into Tithe.
I'm actually taking out Tithes to make room for Elspeth, since I do really need a way to get past Moat in the main. The way my deck is now, once my opponent plays Moat, I have absolutely no way to win. Tithe was kind of an experimental card, and I think there may be better cards to run in that slot. But if it works, then go for it. It does synergize well with PtE, and this deck does have some issues with card advantage. I've also been wondering if 2-3 Brave the Elements might work in the deck, to protect Exemplars from spot removal and/or make the team unblockable for a turn. Just an idea to play around with. Anyway, here's my current build.
I reduced the Stoneforge package and dropped the Tithes in order to make room for the Elspeths and 2 more lands. I'm running 3 for now, which I think is the right number. The G/W build only runs 2, but I have fewer outs against Moat/Humility and less powerful creatures in general than the G/W build, so I'll probably have to rely on them and my equipment a bit more to get the job done.
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I have used Brave the Elements in my white Knights deck variant, and they do work, but I always get the feeling that I could replace them with something else. Mother of Runes might be better than Brave the Elements, because it's a creature that confers protection, and it forces the opponent to deal with it.
I'm interested in making a knight deck since it seems cheap and the only card I don't have is the Aether Vial (working on that). Anyways this is what I've got so far:
It's rather basic and the Gift of Estates is a filler card, which I guess could be Brave the Elements. I don't get the chance to play Legacy that often but the last time I did there was an abundance of Goblin decks so I was thinking of running 2 Tivadar of Thorn in the sideboard to help with that match up.
I haven't had the chance to read through this entire thread. I plan on doing that within the next day or two but I just wanted to throw this out there for some tips/advice.
Welcome, DarkKaosKnight. There are a few changes you should consider making, although they are not necessarily budget friendly. If you are constrained by a tight budget, as a perpetually broke graduate student myself I understand. Going mono-white is also much more budget friendly than the multicolor version, although the multicolor version is arguably a bit more competitive.
However, if you can get hold of these cards or you already own them, then you should strongly consider using them. They really are necessary to make the mono-white version even somewhat competitive. But keep in mind that right now this deck (even the optimized version) is still what I consider to be semi-casual, meaning it is fun, it may win a few games and even the odd small tournament or two, but it won't cut it at the competitive level. Legacy is a very fast format, and there are a lot of decks that just don't make the cut. If knights gets supported more as a tribe, then there may be some hope of that, but right now there just isn't enough support. All we can do now is just make the best deck possible with what we have. I'm not trying to discourage you, but just understand that if you invest in building this, it's more for personal enjoyment and fun (and you will win at least a little, it's not a horrible deck), not for big league tournament aspirations.
If you want a cheap deck that is a bit more competitive, I'd recommend Ravager Affinity, with the release of the Scars and Besieged it is getting a few new toys. You could also probably run a monowhite version of Death and Taxes and be successful, but that is a bit more expensive and requires at least 3 Karakas. You could also try Burn, which is also somewhat competitive and cheap.
Here are my suggestions.
1. Stoneforge Mystic X3, Umezawa's Jitte, Sword of Fire and Ice, and Sword of Light and Shadow. These are somewhat expensive cards, however the nice thing is that Mystic's tutoring ability allows you to run an equipment toolbox, so you really only need to run one of each equipment. If you're looking to improve the deck, this is the first and in my opinion the most important addition you should make to your list.
2. Elspeth, Knight-Errant X2 or X3. She adds a real boost to your creatures, and gives them evasion and a way to get around Moat, which your current build scoops to. Plus, she can also pump out tokens as well to carry your equipment in the event of a board wipe. Run her at least as a 2 of.
3. Mirran Crusader over Paladin En-Vec. Double strike and protection from Tarmogoyfs (and half of Zoo's creatures) to me is much more valuable than protection from red, which is really the only thing that the paladin has over Crusader. If you run Sword of Fire and Ice, you can have that as well on Crusader. Actually all of the equipment I recommended turns this guy into an absolute wrecking machine, whereas equipment on Paladin just makes him okay.
4. Mutavault. What's better than swinging with a 3/3 indestructible land (with Exemplar out)? It also gives you another out in the event of a board wipe. Really, nothing ruins your day quite like Pernicious Deed, and having outs to that and other situations like it is crucial. Elspeth helps here as well, as I mentioned previously.
5. Wilt-Leaf Liege. This is solely a budget friendly suggestion, and one I'd only go with you can't afford the other cards I mentioned. It's at least better than Honor of the Pure, I think.
There are several cards you are running that really don't work. Number one that I see is Honor of the Pure. Thematically, it's great, but in reality it is card disadvantage in a deck that really can't afford it, and it just doesn't give your guys enough of a boost to be worth it. Consider the Stoneforge Mystic and equipment toolbox in place of these. Number two is that you really don't need both Swords and PtE. Choose one (personally I go with PtE because it synergies with Knight of the White Orchid) and run 4 of it. Gift of Estates is also not very good, but if you want to run a similar effect at a better cost than I would recommend Tithe. You also should run at least 20 lands, even with land searching abilities. Hope these suggestions help, and good luck with the deck.
Edit: Also, in the sideboard you want Graveyard hate (Tormod's Crypt or similar), storm combo hate in the form of Ethersworn Canonist and Silence, and for the rest use meta-dependent cards.
Knight of the Reliquary is far and away the best knight in legacy. Therefore I would start with a G/W base for the deck.
The only other thing I feel like mentioning is the synergy between Knight of the White Orchid and Knight of the Reliquary. Let's say it's your turn four, your KotR is now active, you're on the play, you haven't played a land for the turn, and neither player has missed a land drop. IF you have a vial at two, you can activate KotR's ability, putting you down a land, vial in Knight of the White Orchid without passing priority, get a basic land, then get say a Wasteland with Knight, then play your land for the turn. If you don't have a
Or when vial is at two, you can activate Wasteland to drop you down a land, then vial in Knight of the White Orchid w/o passing priority. These things won't come up that often, but when they do you can exploit them.
I'm interested in making a knight deck since it seems cheap and the only card I don't have is the Aether Vial (working on that). Anyways this is what I've got so far:
It's rather basic and the Gift of Estates is a filler card, which I guess could be Brave the Elements. I don't get the chance to play Legacy that often but the last time I did there was an abundance of Goblin decks so I was thinking of running 2 Tivadar of Thorn in the sideboard to help with that match up.
I haven't had the chance to read through this entire thread. I plan on doing that within the next day or two but I just wanted to throw this out there for some tips/advice.
Honor of the pure is weak in legacy. In addition you want your sideboard to improve your bad match ups. Random knights in the side is a bad idea. Check out LegendofZadeh's list and just replace all multicolored creatures with mono white creatures for reference. He and I worked on his list A LONG TIME as well as doing serious testing.
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Maaga, Traitor To Mortals B
Eight-and-a-Half-Tails W
Kazuul, Tyrant of the Cliffs R
Savra, Queen of the Golgari BG
Stonebrow, Krosan Hero RG
Kemba, Kha Regent W
Captain Sisay GW
Darien, King of Kheldor W
Geth, Lord of the Vault B
does a reprint really count as "new"?
in all fairness, I was just teasing
4x Windswept Heath
3x Arid Mesa
2x Horizon Canopy
3x Plains
1x Forest
3x Savannah
1x Mutavault
1x Karakas
1x Wasteland
2x Maze of Ith
Creatures (27)
4x Student of Warfare
4x Knight of the White Orchid
2x Silver Knight
3x Stoneforge Mystic
3x Qasali Pridemage
4x Knight Exemplar
4x Knight of the Reliquary
3x Mirran Crusader
4x Aether Vial
4x Path to Exile
1x Sword of Fire and Ice
1x Sword of Light and Shadow
1x Umezawa's Jitte
2x Elspeth, Knight-Errant
3x Gaddock Teeg
4x Orim's Chant
2x Krosian Grip
2x Tormod's Crypt
1x Bojuka Bog
3x Retribution of the Meek
What do you guys think?
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Lands (20):
16 Plains
04 Wasteland
Creatures (28):
02 Hero of Bladehold <- new
02 Kinsbaile Cavalier
04 Knight Exemplar
04 Knight of the White Orchid
04 Mirran Crusader <- new
04 Mother of Runes <- One of the best one drops in the game, right next to Goblin Lackey (if left unanswered) and Aether Vial.
04 Stoneforge Mystic
04 Student of Warfare
Others (12)
04 Aether Vial
01 Basilisk Collar
01 Darksteel Plate <- new
04 Path to Exile
01 Sword of Fire and Ice
01 Umezawa's Jitte
I had been using paper for the new cards for play test. I love Mirran Crusader. He laughs at PtE, StP, and Tarmogoyph. Basilisk Collar is insane when attached to creatures with First Strike. Even better, it with Mirrin Crusader and Sword of Fire and Ice, it is basically free card advantage. But mom can accomplishes the same as well.
I had been switching between Hero of Bladehold and Wilt-Leaf Liege. Wilt-Leaf Liege is a good lord who has a nice P/T. Hero of Bladehold on the other hand can produce more creatures and is a decent lord. The only downfall is that she produces soldiers, not knights. I might go back with Wilt-Leaf Liege or someone else.
Lastly, Darksteel Plate is insane. As long as you use Stoneforge Mystic to bring it the bring it to the field, it can't be countered. Attach it to Knight Exemplar and you complete the indestructible circuit (much more practical than getting two Exemplars), and I can accomplish this as soon as turn four, which I guess it slow for legacy.
These are the other knights I had used and own:
2 Knight of Meadowgrain
2 Knight of the Holy Nimbus
1 Sigiled Paladin
4 Silver Knight
2 Stillmoon Cavalier
1 White Knight
1 White Shield Crusader
4 Wilt-Leaf Cavaliers <- Love this card. Can't fit though.
2 Wilt-Leaf Liege
I have not tried Accorder Paladin yet though.
I still think knight lacks synergy. They are more about individualism than a team player.
Note: I am a casual player and so are my friends. I am not spending money on dual lands for green unless I can magically get them for cheap.
what? please explain
Now I need to test the card further.
O_O wellllllllllllll then..
it's a shame phyrexian crusader has infect, or he'd be great in a black splash for knights
Darksteel Plate is probably my favorite card from this new set. One is enough though I think since it is searchable with Stoneforge Mystic.
15 Plains
3 Flagstones of Trokair
2 Mutavault
Creatures: 24
4 Student of Warfare
4 Silver Knight
4 Knight of the White Orchid
4 Stoneforge Mystic
4 Knight Exemplar
4 Mirran Crusader
4 Aether Vial
2 Umezawa's Jitte
1 Sword of Fire and Ice
1 Sword of Light and Shadow
1 Basilisk Collar
Other: 7
4 Path to Exile
3 Tithe
4 Tormod's Crypt
4 Orim's Chant
4 Ethersworn Canonist
3 Pithing Needle
Tithe is another nice card that works well with Path, and helps to make up for the fact that I'm only playing 20 lands. I do run a more extensive Stoneforge Package with a backup Jitte and Basilisk Collar, as well as 4 Mystics to search them out. I really want to put a Sword of Fire and Ice or a Jitte on a Mirran Crusader
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In a mono W list though, wouldn't you want Elspeth and Kinsbaile somewhere in there? I mean..how do you answer moat or humility??
As for Elspeth and Kinsbaile, maybe, but I'd prefer to stay away from 4 drops. My build plays a little more aggressively than the G/W version (I think, I've never played it or seen it played though), and turn 4-5 I generally want to be equipping stuff and swinging. I know both Elspeth and Cavalier also increase my creatures' damage output, but this version is a bit more focused on equipment.
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It seems that the consensus for the best knights are currently:
- Knight Exemplar
- Knight of the White Orchid
- Mirran Crusader <- needs testing but looks promising
- Student of Warfare
Also, I guess I am the only one who likes Darksteel Plate.
zahdeh, why do you like Elspeth, Knight-Errant?
EnemyWithin, I do not own Tithe but it looks like a nice card. It gives us the mana advantage we need in the long run and does thin the deck down. I will try to pick them up. How does it affect the short run though? I essentially just payed mana to put Plains in my hand and statistically, we have a very high chance of drawing Plains anyways. I'd rather use a one-drop of Mom. Also, I use Knight of the White Orchid to fix PtE anyways. But, I'll look into Tithe.
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3 Flagstones of Trokair
2 Mutavault
17 Plains
Creatures: 23
4 Student of Warfare
4 Silver Knight
4 Knight of the White Orchid
3 Stoneforge Mystic
4 Knight Exemplar
4 Mirran Crusader
4 Aether Vial
1 Umezawa's Jitte
1 Sword of Fire and Ice
1 Sword of Light and Shadow
1 Basilisk Collar
Instants/Sorceries: 4
4 Path to Exile
Planeswalkers: 3
3 Elspeth, Knight-Errant
4 Tormod's Crypt
4 Orim's Chant
4 War Priest of Thune
3 Ethersword Canonist
I reduced the Stoneforge package and dropped the Tithes in order to make room for the Elspeths and 2 more lands. I'm running 3 for now, which I think is the right number. The G/W build only runs 2, but I have fewer outs against Moat/Humility and less powerful creatures in general than the G/W build, so I'll probably have to rely on them and my equipment a bit more to get the job done.
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18 Plains
Creatures:
3 Student of Warfare
4 Knight of Meadowgrain
4 Knight of the White Orchid
4 Knight of the Holy Nimbus
4 Knight Exemplar
4 Paladin en-Vec
4 Aether Vial
Spells:
4 Path to Exile
4 Swords to Plowshares
3 Gift of Estates
Enchantments:
4 Honor of the Pure
4 Silver Knight
4 White Knight
7 ????
It's rather basic and the Gift of Estates is a filler card, which I guess could be Brave the Elements. I don't get the chance to play Legacy that often but the last time I did there was an abundance of Goblin decks so I was thinking of running 2 Tivadar of Thorn in the sideboard to help with that match up.
I haven't had the chance to read through this entire thread. I plan on doing that within the next day or two but I just wanted to throw this out there for some tips/advice.
However, if you can get hold of these cards or you already own them, then you should strongly consider using them. They really are necessary to make the mono-white version even somewhat competitive. But keep in mind that right now this deck (even the optimized version) is still what I consider to be semi-casual, meaning it is fun, it may win a few games and even the odd small tournament or two, but it won't cut it at the competitive level. Legacy is a very fast format, and there are a lot of decks that just don't make the cut. If knights gets supported more as a tribe, then there may be some hope of that, but right now there just isn't enough support. All we can do now is just make the best deck possible with what we have. I'm not trying to discourage you, but just understand that if you invest in building this, it's more for personal enjoyment and fun (and you will win at least a little, it's not a horrible deck), not for big league tournament aspirations.
If you want a cheap deck that is a bit more competitive, I'd recommend Ravager Affinity, with the release of the Scars and Besieged it is getting a few new toys. You could also probably run a monowhite version of Death and Taxes and be successful, but that is a bit more expensive and requires at least 3 Karakas. You could also try Burn, which is also somewhat competitive and cheap.
Here are my suggestions.
1. Stoneforge Mystic X3, Umezawa's Jitte, Sword of Fire and Ice, and Sword of Light and Shadow. These are somewhat expensive cards, however the nice thing is that Mystic's tutoring ability allows you to run an equipment toolbox, so you really only need to run one of each equipment. If you're looking to improve the deck, this is the first and in my opinion the most important addition you should make to your list.
2. Elspeth, Knight-Errant X2 or X3. She adds a real boost to your creatures, and gives them evasion and a way to get around Moat, which your current build scoops to. Plus, she can also pump out tokens as well to carry your equipment in the event of a board wipe. Run her at least as a 2 of.
3. Mirran Crusader over Paladin En-Vec. Double strike and protection from Tarmogoyfs (and half of Zoo's creatures) to me is much more valuable than protection from red, which is really the only thing that the paladin has over Crusader. If you run Sword of Fire and Ice, you can have that as well on Crusader. Actually all of the equipment I recommended turns this guy into an absolute wrecking machine, whereas equipment on Paladin just makes him okay.
4. Mutavault. What's better than swinging with a 3/3 indestructible land (with Exemplar out)? It also gives you another out in the event of a board wipe. Really, nothing ruins your day quite like Pernicious Deed, and having outs to that and other situations like it is crucial. Elspeth helps here as well, as I mentioned previously.
5. Wilt-Leaf Liege. This is solely a budget friendly suggestion, and one I'd only go with you can't afford the other cards I mentioned. It's at least better than Honor of the Pure, I think.
There are several cards you are running that really don't work. Number one that I see is Honor of the Pure. Thematically, it's great, but in reality it is card disadvantage in a deck that really can't afford it, and it just doesn't give your guys enough of a boost to be worth it. Consider the Stoneforge Mystic and equipment toolbox in place of these. Number two is that you really don't need both Swords and PtE. Choose one (personally I go with PtE because it synergies with Knight of the White Orchid) and run 4 of it. Gift of Estates is also not very good, but if you want to run a similar effect at a better cost than I would recommend Tithe. You also should run at least 20 lands, even with land searching abilities. Hope these suggestions help, and good luck with the deck.
Edit: Also, in the sideboard you want Graveyard hate (Tormod's Crypt or similar), storm combo hate in the form of Ethersworn Canonist and Silence, and for the rest use meta-dependent cards.
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The only other thing I feel like mentioning is the synergy between Knight of the White Orchid and Knight of the Reliquary. Let's say it's your turn four, your KotR is now active, you're on the play, you haven't played a land for the turn, and neither player has missed a land drop. IF you have a vial at two, you can activate KotR's ability, putting you down a land, vial in Knight of the White Orchid without passing priority, get a basic land, then get say a Wasteland with Knight, then play your land for the turn. If you don't have a
Or when vial is at two, you can activate Wasteland to drop you down a land, then vial in Knight of the White Orchid w/o passing priority. These things won't come up that often, but when they do you can exploit them.
Honor of the pure is weak in legacy. In addition you want your sideboard to improve your bad match ups. Random knights in the side is a bad idea. Check out LegendofZadeh's list and just replace all multicolored creatures with mono white creatures for reference. He and I worked on his list A LONG TIME as well as doing serious testing.
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