Would you replace old ulamog with the new one? As far as I know it's strictly an upgrade but I'm not as familiar with 12post I'm particular
I would. The general consensus on the Ulamogs is that Newlamog is better only upon casting (1 less for double the cast trigger), and no other time. However, there is no other time it really needs to be better with Emrakul in the deck.
I've have this deck mostly built I just need Karakas, Tabernacle, a second Ugin, the Spirit Dragon and the Candelabras. I been running Deserted Temple as another singleton land to do a mini Candelabra impression. I have ensnaring bridge in the board to replace Tabernacle.
I've gone the Show and Tell route instead of the NO route but the deck is a blast to play.
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There's no real set list to use these days because not a lot of people play the deck; some swear by green/white post, some mono green, and me personally traditional blue/green post. All of these decks have their pros and cons and slightly different play styles. If your starting off budget/casual look to spooky's budget legacy tron deck in this thread http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/legacy-type-1-5/572047-getting-started-in-legacy-and-legacy-budget-primer . Before i was able to afford the higher priced cards i played this budget version and it was surprisingly fun and plays somewhat similar to 12 post decks. As i slowly obtained the pricey cards and the set of vesuvas i slowly updated the deck to where it is now. This deck is similar to the one i use now and used to be considered to be a fairly stock list, http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1058826 .
There's no real set list to use these days because not a lot of people play the deck; some swear by green/white post, some mono green, and me personally traditional blue/green post. All of these decks have their pros and cons and slightly different play styles. If your starting off budget/casual look to spooky's budget legacy tron deck in this thread http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/legacy-type-1-5/572047-getting-started-in-legacy-and-legacy-budget-primer . Before i was able to afford the higher priced cards i played this budget version and it was surprisingly fun and plays somewhat similar to 12 post decks. As i slowly obtained the pricey cards and the set of vesuvas i slowly updated the deck to where it is now. This deck is similar to the one i use now and used to be considered to be a fairly stock list, http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1058826 .
Hello, thank you for the suggestions, is it this deck that you are talking about?
Urza Tron
DeckType- Combo
Cost-~$90 USD
Basic Description-
Mana acceleration based combo deck. Either use your land searching cards to assemble the Urza Tron combo of Urza's Mine, Urza's Power Plant and Urza's Tower, or use Overgrown Battlement in combination with your other walls to generate large amounts of mana. Either way, you use this mana to play large game ending creatures like Emrakul, the Aeons Torn. Moment's Peace and friends keep you alive so you can make land drops and Eye of Ugin, which can be found through your land searches, makes sure you always have a fatty to play.
Sample Deck-list-
-spooky-'s
Creatures [18]
3 Axebane Guardian
1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
1 Kalonian Behemoth
4 Overgrown Battlement
1 Pathrazer of Ulamog
1 Platinum Emperion
1 Sundering Titan
4 Wall of Blossoms
4 Wall of Roots
yep, although id probably cut the empereon and the other green finishers and add in my own fatties if i were building this today. The more diversified threats you can get with eye of ugin the better.
This is the list that I am currently on. The new ulamog is definitely great and all powerful. The one disappointment I would say is that the lost of annihilator and shuffle effect. Naturally his cast trigger actually honestly is better than his old one, plus the fact he doesn't have annihilator means that he can still mill out lands even if they have exploration/maze of ith in 2 swings most likely. The loss of the shuffle effect is mostly my biggest gripe. Him sitting in my graveyard when discarded or forced to sacrifice feels tragic at times. But I definitely went all in on "nulamog". The fact his cast trigger exiles the targets is also relevant vs lands as well because they can return destroyed lands, plus Marit lage can't be destroyed.
Hello , I’m beginning Legacy and I would like to play this deck , the UG version ! Have you any tips of the evolution of this deck since the last year? thanks !
I don't have any experience with the UG variant of 12 post and having really been on the deck much in the recent past. I don't know many users that use this primer any more, but on mtgthesource they are fairly active. Only issue I have over there is that people are at time really rude and combative.
I was having a lot of fun with a variant of 16post for quite a while. The local meta was nearly half Miracles players (a FEAST!); only one guy playing burn, and Chalice of the Void did fine against him; really my only threats were one kid playing a dastardly fast Elf deck and a few players playing MUD. It got me two top place and two top twos and idk even how many top 4s, just at local FNM stuff around the region, but i haven't brought it out since the Sensei's Divining Top ban. I'm afraid it's no longer relevant at the moment as the meta is shifting rapidly. I've gone back to running Grixis Delver. I'll be keeping the deck intact for the time being, though, and looking for ways to adjust it as the dust starts to settle in the local meta.
Using Gemstone Array instead of a diversified land base might look clunky, but i tested both ways pretty extensively and the Array worked better in the meta i'd been facing. If i see any openings for an adjusted version i'll post here about it. One thing it might need again is mainboarded Crop Rotations, i've been seeing a lot more Wastelands again lately, in which case i could drop the Trade Routes entirely. I don't know, it might need major alterations.
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Playing a budget version listed below, a lot of fun but really bad against storm and elves.I decided to run depths as plan b over prime time, and I need to switch out the main deck counterspells for better ones.
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I've gone the Show and Tell route instead of the NO route but the deck is a blast to play.
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Hello, thank you for the suggestions, is it this deck that you are talking about?
Urza Tron
DeckType- Combo
Cost-~$90 USD
Basic Description-
Mana acceleration based combo deck. Either use your land searching cards to assemble the Urza Tron combo of Urza's Mine, Urza's Power Plant and Urza's Tower, or use Overgrown Battlement in combination with your other walls to generate large amounts of mana. Either way, you use this mana to play large game ending creatures like Emrakul, the Aeons Torn. Moment's Peace and friends keep you alive so you can make land drops and Eye of Ugin, which can be found through your land searches, makes sure you always have a fatty to play.
Sample Deck-list-
-spooky-'s
Creatures [18]
3 Axebane Guardian
1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
1 Kalonian Behemoth
4 Overgrown Battlement
1 Pathrazer of Ulamog
1 Platinum Emperion
1 Sundering Titan
4 Wall of Blossoms
4 Wall of Roots
Spells [16]
4 Crop Rotation
4 Expedition Map
4 Moment's Peace
4 Sylvan Scrying
Lands [24]
1 Eye of Ugin
1 Glacial Chasm
10 Forest
4 Urza's Mine
4 Urza's Power Plant
4 Urza's Tower
4 Cloudpost
1 Dryad Arbor
1 Eye of Ugin
4 Forest
4 Glimmerpost
1 Karakas
3 Savannah
1 The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
4 Vesuva
4 Windswept Heath
Creatures 10
1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
1 Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
3 Oracle of Mul Daya
4 Primeval Titan
1 Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger
4 Ancient Stirrings
2 Candelabra of Tawnos
3 Crop Rotation
4 Explore
2 Natural Order
3 Pithing Needle
4 Sensei's Divining Top
2 Ugin, the Spirit Dragon
1 Bojuka Bog
1 Elderscale Wurm
1 Glacial Chasm
2 Krosan Grip
1 Maze of Ith
1 Natural Order
1 Oblivion Stone
2 Rest in Peace
2 Sacred Ground
3 Sphere of Resistance
This is the list that I am currently on. The new ulamog is definitely great and all powerful. The one disappointment I would say is that the lost of annihilator and shuffle effect. Naturally his cast trigger actually honestly is better than his old one, plus the fact he doesn't have annihilator means that he can still mill out lands even if they have exploration/maze of ith in 2 swings most likely. The loss of the shuffle effect is mostly my biggest gripe. Him sitting in my graveyard when discarded or forced to sacrifice feels tragic at times. But I definitely went all in on "nulamog". The fact his cast trigger exiles the targets is also relevant vs lands as well because they can return destroyed lands, plus Marit lage can't be destroyed.
I was having a lot of fun with a variant of 16post for quite a while. The local meta was nearly half Miracles players (a FEAST!); only one guy playing burn, and Chalice of the Void did fine against him; really my only threats were one kid playing a dastardly fast Elf deck and a few players playing MUD. It got me two top place and two top twos and idk even how many top 4s, just at local FNM stuff around the region, but i haven't brought it out since the Sensei's Divining Top ban. I'm afraid it's no longer relevant at the moment as the meta is shifting rapidly. I've gone back to running Grixis Delver. I'll be keeping the deck intact for the time being, though, and looking for ways to adjust it as the dust starts to settle in the local meta.
Here's the deck list as it stands now...
Using Gemstone Array instead of a diversified land base might look clunky, but i tested both ways pretty extensively and the Array worked better in the meta i'd been facing. If i see any openings for an adjusted version i'll post here about it. One thing it might need again is mainboarded Crop Rotations, i've been seeing a lot more Wastelands again lately, in which case i could drop the Trade Routes entirely. I don't know, it might need major alterations.
**Legacy**
Grixis Delver
16post
**Standard**
I'll let you know if/when i go back to Standard. I hate pulling cards i can't use.
1 Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger
1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
4 Crop Rotation
4 Ancient Stirrings
4 Chromatic Sphere
3 Chromatic Star
4 Expedition Map
4 Brainstorm
4 Memory Lapse
4 Cloudpost
4 Glimmerpost
2 Eye of Ugin
1 Karakas
4 Forest
2 Dark Depths
1 The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
1 Bojuka Bog
4 Island
3 Thespian's Stage
4 flusterstorm
UB Wight Phantasm
RB Burn
UR Faerie Rites of Initiation
Legacy:
R Burn
CG-Post