So this morning I wake up and go onto MTGO to draft for a few hours. I ended up drafting this sweet junk deck which I felt was really powerful. I get into my first match and I get a no lander, mull to a 1 lander, and then mull to 3 lander. Great, already off to a terrible start. I try to play what I have but before I know it he's got 3-4 more cards then me and I'm just upkeeping more land. Then he drops Isperia, Supreme Judge, cool mythic bomb game 1 after mana flood mull to 5.
Game 2 happens, I end up keeping a pretty decent hand of Azorious Arrester, Call to the Conclave, Soul Tithe, + another card and land. I actually end up being able to get him down to 7 with a combination of my creatures + Selensya Keyrune when he drops Isperia, Supreme Judge again. I Soul Tithe it but he doesn't care, pays the cost, I can't swing, he just crashes in with Isperia + Bird tokens for the win. Cool, lost my first match because my opponent dropped his mythic bomb BOTH games.
Match 2. I win first game handedly, opponent concedes 2nd game.
Match 3. I keep a semi-decent hand, my opponent seems to be on rakdos of some sort. he plays t2 Pack Rat, to which I held off for 6-7 turns before becoming overwhelmed since theres just no way to deal with it. I kept pressure, I kept blocking when I could, he would just make more, etc. Pack rat is insane in limited, pretty sure I don't need to tell anybody twice.
Game 2. He gets ANOTHER t2 Pack Rat, this time I just have no way of stopping it. Gatecreeper Vine, Keyrune, Avenging Arrow, Call, decent hand but literally Pack Rat is unstoppable. Im just trading creatures for creatures he just keeps multiplying. It's so unfair it literally infuriates me.
So, my morning draft 1-2 through no real play error/fault of my own. First match I get crushed by Isperia both games 1+2 no matter how ahead I got g2. Match 2 I feel decently good like I could still pull the 2-1, only to get crushed by t2 Pack Rat BOTH GAMES. I feel like I was robbed of the draft because of lucky draws and unfair situations. Getting blown-out by insane rares just doesn't seem fair when you make a really solid draft deck despite your rares being Death's Presence, Pallisade Giant, and Grave Betrayal. -___-. I'm not even mad they got better cards, I'm just frustrated they got to play them both games which just shut me out completely.
Anybody else get drafts like these? Where you feel like you weren't even really given a chance to play your deck? How do you deal with drafts like these?
I Soul Tithe it but he doesn't care, pays the cost
Well...this is why Soul Tithe is bad and why I never want to play it. It only kills creatures your opponent doesn't care about -- where's the value in that? Sometimes you have to play it but I don't even think about it as removal. It's more like a mid game tempo spell.
Cool, lost my first match because my opponent dropped his mythic bomb BOTH games.
To be fair, you lost the first game due to bad draws (mull to 5). That made you the underdog regardless of if he drew a mythic. Second game -- oh well that's Limited for you.
Match 2. I win first game handedly, opponent concedes 2nd game.
See here's your bias problem. When you lost Match 1 you went into great detail about your awful luck. When you won Match 2 it's just ho hum I won because of course I won because I expected to win. That tells me you are going into the event with an inflated sense of your likelihood to win each match.
Match 3 -- Oh well, you lost to the most powerful individual card in the format. Sorry for your bad luck but it's kind of what you signed up for with Limited.
So, my morning draft 1-2 through no real play error/fault of my own.
I guarantee this is not true. I'm sure many people would have built your deck differently and played differently. There's no way to know you played perfectly, in fact that's almost impossible. You might very well have still lost, but don't think you're a perfect player. There is always something to improve.
I feel like I was robbed of the draft because of lucky draws and unfair situations. Getting blown-out by insane rares just doesn't seem fair...
It's perfectly fair in the sense that you were equally likely as your opponents to open those cards. If you can't deal with the risk that you're going to be unlucky sometimes, maybe you should play Chess.
The best ways to cope with these types of losses are to:
1) Get over it first of all because it's just bad luck, and luck balances over time.
2) Go back over your replays if you can and see if you can spot any errors.
3) Share your pool and deck and see if anyone can offer insight into how you might have built it differently.
4) Go back to #1 and remind yourself that it's just bad luck, and decide if you can handle that -- if not then maybe Limited is not your game.
Actually I manage to draft amazing stuff and go 3-0 every time I play
Sigging that!
Listen to Phyrre. I've (mostly) given up on posting bad beats because they happen and most people tend to remember them more than the times they are the one doing the beating. You did so in your own post. How do you think your round 2 opponent felt? S/He obviously lost round one and, at best, had the same record that you did.
Best way to deal? Don't play limited, then you have no one to blame but yourself.
I just played two drafts in a row where my first round opponent ramped up to Collective Blessing in each draft. I feel like I never open bombs like that.
Which is not entirely true; I did open and pick Collective Blessing a few days ago. But I drew it only one time in all of my matches (swiss queue) and wasn't able to play it even the time that I did draw it.
It is frustrating, but I absolutely do not kid myself: I lose far too many games to play mistakes. I think that everyone is going to lose 30% of games AT A MINIMUM to factors outside of their control - your bad draw combined with their good draw, etc. But that leaves a 70% win rate up for grabs. Which is an incredible win rate if you can achieve it. But to achieve it you have to play mistake-free Magic and you have to know what you are doing. I give away approximately 20% of my games to poor play and poor deckbuilding decisions, and as a result, I am constantly stuck at around a 50% win rate.
Yeah, I don't see this going anywhere productive. Please don't create threads just for bad beat stories, unless you can provide a draft cap of some variety, and want advice. Threads like this just tend to lead to spam.
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Game 2 happens, I end up keeping a pretty decent hand of Azorious Arrester, Call to the Conclave, Soul Tithe, + another card and land. I actually end up being able to get him down to 7 with a combination of my creatures + Selensya Keyrune when he drops Isperia, Supreme Judge again. I Soul Tithe it but he doesn't care, pays the cost, I can't swing, he just crashes in with Isperia + Bird tokens for the win. Cool, lost my first match because my opponent dropped his mythic bomb BOTH games.
Match 2. I win first game handedly, opponent concedes 2nd game.
Match 3. I keep a semi-decent hand, my opponent seems to be on rakdos of some sort. he plays t2 Pack Rat, to which I held off for 6-7 turns before becoming overwhelmed since theres just no way to deal with it. I kept pressure, I kept blocking when I could, he would just make more, etc. Pack rat is insane in limited, pretty sure I don't need to tell anybody twice.
Game 2. He gets ANOTHER t2 Pack Rat, this time I just have no way of stopping it. Gatecreeper Vine, Keyrune, Avenging Arrow, Call, decent hand but literally Pack Rat is unstoppable. Im just trading creatures for creatures he just keeps multiplying. It's so unfair it literally infuriates me.
So, my morning draft 1-2 through no real play error/fault of my own. First match I get crushed by Isperia both games 1+2 no matter how ahead I got g2. Match 2 I feel decently good like I could still pull the 2-1, only to get crushed by t2 Pack Rat BOTH GAMES. I feel like I was robbed of the draft because of lucky draws and unfair situations. Getting blown-out by insane rares just doesn't seem fair when you make a really solid draft deck despite your rares being Death's Presence, Pallisade Giant, and Grave Betrayal. -___-. I'm not even mad they got better cards, I'm just frustrated they got to play them both games which just shut me out completely.
Anybody else get drafts like these? Where you feel like you weren't even really given a chance to play your deck? How do you deal with drafts like these?
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That seems like a winning strategy, listen to this man OP.
Well...this is why Soul Tithe is bad and why I never want to play it. It only kills creatures your opponent doesn't care about -- where's the value in that? Sometimes you have to play it but I don't even think about it as removal. It's more like a mid game tempo spell.
To be fair, you lost the first game due to bad draws (mull to 5). That made you the underdog regardless of if he drew a mythic. Second game -- oh well that's Limited for you.
See here's your bias problem. When you lost Match 1 you went into great detail about your awful luck. When you won Match 2 it's just ho hum I won because of course I won because I expected to win. That tells me you are going into the event with an inflated sense of your likelihood to win each match.
Match 3 -- Oh well, you lost to the most powerful individual card in the format. Sorry for your bad luck but it's kind of what you signed up for with Limited.
I guarantee this is not true. I'm sure many people would have built your deck differently and played differently. There's no way to know you played perfectly, in fact that's almost impossible. You might very well have still lost, but don't think you're a perfect player. There is always something to improve.
It's perfectly fair in the sense that you were equally likely as your opponents to open those cards. If you can't deal with the risk that you're going to be unlucky sometimes, maybe you should play Chess.
The best ways to cope with these types of losses are to:
1) Get over it first of all because it's just bad luck, and luck balances over time.
2) Go back over your replays if you can and see if you can spot any errors.
3) Share your pool and deck and see if anyone can offer insight into how you might have built it differently.
4) Go back to #1 and remind yourself that it's just bad luck, and decide if you can handle that -- if not then maybe Limited is not your game.
Sigging that!
Listen to Phyrre. I've (mostly) given up on posting bad beats because they happen and most people tend to remember them more than the times they are the one doing the beating. You did so in your own post. How do you think your round 2 opponent felt? S/He obviously lost round one and, at best, had the same record that you did.
Best way to deal? Don't play limited, then you have no one to blame but yourself.
Which is not entirely true; I did open and pick Collective Blessing a few days ago. But I drew it only one time in all of my matches (swiss queue) and wasn't able to play it even the time that I did draw it.
It is frustrating, but I absolutely do not kid myself: I lose far too many games to play mistakes. I think that everyone is going to lose 30% of games AT A MINIMUM to factors outside of their control - your bad draw combined with their good draw, etc. But that leaves a 70% win rate up for grabs. Which is an incredible win rate if you can achieve it. But to achieve it you have to play mistake-free Magic and you have to know what you are doing. I give away approximately 20% of my games to poor play and poor deckbuilding decisions, and as a result, I am constantly stuck at around a 50% win rate.
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