I wonder when you will get it through your heads that the shocks are legal in legacy too....and are used by legacy players, people use Cloud of Faeries/Snap over Candelabra of Tawnos in high tide, is it optimal, no, does it work, yes, are shocks optimal no, do they work, yes, they require smarter/tighter play in legacy. Not reprinting (*insert X legacy staple*) because of the reserved list is dumb reasoning.
If you are going to run shocks and cards legal in Modern, why not just move over to Modern?
I wonder when you will get it through your head that duals are not the only staples on the reserved list for legacy/vintage.
Seriosly. I play legacy. I love it, but its gonna die inevitably due to availability issues. I swear its like every hipster legacy player (the players that got into it becauase it was the cool up-and-coming format that the cool kids play) that got into is experiencing the magic version of Marx's "middle class anxiety".
This 10 fold. People would just rather invest into Standard or Modern it seems.
I've played both formats and I prefer Modern to Legacy by quite a long shot, don't see why people are all focused in legacy, must be all the blue lovers I guess.
I've played both formats and I prefer Modern to Legacy by quite a long shot, don't see why people are all focused in legacy, must be all the blue lovers I guess.
I love blue, and I love Modern over legacy. Though, I do love them both.
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I've played both formats and I prefer Modern to Legacy by quite a long shot, don't see why people are all focused in legacy, must be all the blue lovers I guess.
Blue's easily the most played color in modern too, despite all the bannings. It's not a legacy thing.
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They are just 2 separate entities. Modern suffers less from the boringness of standard, but legacy is just an amazingly spread out format. I just played in a 8 round legacy event and played against 8 different decks..... even in the T8..
Im loving modern, but I know what Ill see when I got to my PTQs. until that changes its just a format thats getting hype because its the PTQ format.
If you are going to run shocks and cards legal in Modern, why not just move over to Modern?
Preference, Legacy and Moderns meta is going to be different (one would hope anyways), some prefer a faster format, believe it or not, there is a lot of overlap between the two formats, but they play very differently, I personally prefer legacy to modern (partially because no one in my area really plays modern), as such if there ever were a time where I had to use shocks over duels, I would, I doubt that would happen (yes, every eternal player gets there is a cap, but neither vintage or legacy are popular enough for it to be a problem, least more so then already)
I wonder when you will get it through your head that duals are not the only staples on the reserved list for legacy/vintage.
Your right to a fault, there a lots of staples on the reserved list (Time spiral etc) but many are not widely used, either due to cost or unpractical, take the abyss, it's a powerful card but it's effect requires it to only go in a certain kind of deck, or candelabra of tawnos, there only two decks that can use it effectively, high tide and 12 post, the former I've mentioned before and the latter is TERRIBLE in legacy
It would be great to have FoW and wasteland reprinted not just for legacy but for EDH and cubes as well. And there's the fact that they are fairly iconic cards, and people like iconic cards generally speaking and I would bet money that if FoW or wasteland were reprinted in some sort of precon said precon would sell like hotcakes, making WotC boatloads of cash.
Lulz, 12 people for the modern side event at the last SCG open? Not surprising at all to me, the format is awful. In the Twin Cities a month back a modern tournament was held that had revised dual lands for prizes. Guess how many people showed up, oh yeah only 14 people showed up despite real revised duals being up for grabs. The only reason modern is getting played is because it's a PTQ format. If vintage, legacy, extended, or even ice age block constructed were PTQ formats all would be quite popular too, even ice age because when PT invites are on the line people will be interested.
Competitive players love the color blue. In standard, people love to play delver of secrets same with modern, same with legacy, and extended is dead while vintage is glacially slow in terms of evolution sans when blatantly powerful cards are printed (grafdigger's cage will push workshop decks over the top, of this I'm sure since it answers both of workshop's bad matchups in the form of dredge and oath.) The fact is, blue is the best color in magic for a reason, especially in eternal formats where all the blue cards are present sans a select few that are banned and all the most broken blue cards are restricted in vintage sans jace, the mind sculptor.
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Kinda hard to get worked up over a side event to be honest, granted I don't pay attention to attendance period (if people show up, I'll play) but still if it's a event that is more for fun than for serious competition whose going to care, also the superbowl
It would be great to have FoW and wasteland reprinted not just for legacy but for EDH and cubes as well. And there's the fact that they are fairly iconic cards, and people like iconic cards generally speaking and I would bet money that if FoW or wasteland were reprinted in some sort of precon said precon would sell like hotcakes, making WotC boatloads of cash.
Lulz, 12 people for the modern side event at the last SCG open? Not surprising at all to me, the format is awful. In the Twin Cities a month back a modern tournament was held that had revised dual lands for prizes. Guess how many people showed up, oh yeah only 14 people showed up despite real revised duals being up for grabs. The only reason modern is getting played is because it's a PTQ format. If vintage, legacy, extended, or even ice age block constructed were PTQ formats all would be quite popular too, even ice age because when PT invites are on the line people will be interested.
Competitive players love the color blue. In standard, people love to play delver of secrets same with modern, same with legacy, and extended is dead while vintage is glacially slow in terms of evolution sans when blatantly powerful cards are printed (grafdigger's cage will push workshop decks over the top, of this I'm sure since it answers both of workshop's bad matchups in the form of dredge and oath.) The fact is, blue is the best color in magic for a reason, especially in eternal formats where all the blue cards are present sans a select few that are banned and all the most broken blue cards are restricted in vintage sans jace, the mind sculptor.
The same SCG Open that had a 7-round Legacy Day 2. (Because no one was showing up, due to the Super Bowl.)
SE's started firing regularly on 12/11, a few weeks before the PTQ season was announced. Modern PRE attendance was steadily gaining before the PTQ season was announced. I think Modern would be popular even without the PTQ's.
12/11 was a few weeks before the PTQ season started, not was announced. Also, the PTQ season started at the same time as the MOCS season 1, which was Modern.
Dunno. The "official" announcement date I find is 1/9, and the first 2 PTQ's were 1/7. I have no idea how this discrepancy came about, but it doesn't surprise me.
Which announcement? The online PTQ schedule was announced rather late, but it was common knowledge that they would happen; it was just the exact dates which were unknown.
Also, I don't count a post in the Rumor Mill as an announcement.
If you are going to run shocks and cards legal in Modern, why not just move over to Modern?
This 10 fold. People would just rather invest into Standard or Modern it seems.
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Blue's easily the most played color in modern too, despite all the bannings. It's not a legacy thing.
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Im loving modern, but I know what Ill see when I got to my PTQs. until that changes its just a format thats getting hype because its the PTQ format.
Preference, Legacy and Moderns meta is going to be different (one would hope anyways), some prefer a faster format, believe it or not, there is a lot of overlap between the two formats, but they play very differently, I personally prefer legacy to modern (partially because no one in my area really plays modern), as such if there ever were a time where I had to use shocks over duels, I would, I doubt that would happen (yes, every eternal player gets there is a cap, but neither vintage or legacy are popular enough for it to be a problem, least more so then already)
Your right to a fault, there a lots of staples on the reserved list (Time spiral etc) but many are not widely used, either due to cost or unpractical, take the abyss, it's a powerful card but it's effect requires it to only go in a certain kind of deck, or candelabra of tawnos, there only two decks that can use it effectively, high tide and 12 post, the former I've mentioned before and the latter is TERRIBLE in legacy
Lulz, 12 people for the modern side event at the last SCG open? Not surprising at all to me, the format is awful. In the Twin Cities a month back a modern tournament was held that had revised dual lands for prizes. Guess how many people showed up, oh yeah only 14 people showed up despite real revised duals being up for grabs. The only reason modern is getting played is because it's a PTQ format. If vintage, legacy, extended, or even ice age block constructed were PTQ formats all would be quite popular too, even ice age because when PT invites are on the line people will be interested.
Competitive players love the color blue. In standard, people love to play delver of secrets same with modern, same with legacy, and extended is dead while vintage is glacially slow in terms of evolution sans when blatantly powerful cards are printed (grafdigger's cage will push workshop decks over the top, of this I'm sure since it answers both of workshop's bad matchups in the form of dredge and oath.) The fact is, blue is the best color in magic for a reason, especially in eternal formats where all the blue cards are present sans a select few that are banned and all the most broken blue cards are restricted in vintage sans jace, the mind sculptor.
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The same SCG Open that had a 7-round Legacy Day 2. (Because no one was showing up, due to the Super Bowl.)
Current post- Grand Prix KC Modern Postmortem (7/7/13)
12/11 was a few weeks before the PTQ season started, not was announced. Also, the PTQ season started at the same time as the MOCS season 1, which was Modern.
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Huh? 1/9 was after the first PTQs.
The announcement date was 10/14/11:
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=364504
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Which announcement? The online PTQ schedule was announced rather late, but it was common knowledge that they would happen; it was just the exact dates which were unknown.
The source was a DailyMTG article, so it counts.
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