simple question really, since Zoo lost wild Nacatl as their main Ranger of Eos target, is it possible that ranger into double vexing devil becoming very powerful and dangerous? or am i reading too much into 3W, get a 3/2 and deal 8 damage to thair face; or a 3/2 and 2 4/3's
My main reasoning for this is because it's clearly powerful synergy, and it seems not a lot of people have thought about it. But i can see Ranger being the top end of the deck, with Goyf and other silly powerful cards (like KOTR) to create a ferocious Zoo deck that has huge reach potential.
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simple question really, since Zoo lost wild Nacatl as their main Ranger of Eos target, is it possible that ranger into double vexing devil becoming very powerful and dangerous? or am i reading too much into 3W, get a 3/2 and deal 8 damage to thair face; or a 3/2 and 2 4/3's
My main reasoning for this is because it's clearly powerful synergy, and it seems not a lot of people have thought about it. But i can see Ranger being the top end of the deck, with Goyf and other silly powerful cards (like KOTR) to create a ferocious Zoo deck that has huge reach potential.
I don't know about zoo but I've been testing it in borosproc to some very good results. Playing a ranger and getting some combination of vex, martyr, or serra depending on the game state has been amazing.
This thread describes my new Zoo list word-for-word. Yeah, it's very dangerous in my testing. Every time I tutor up two devils with Eos, my opponents crap their pants. I imagine it is even scarier in Boros/Devil-Proc.
I'm loving it so far. I decided to try it out after I tested it in RUG Delver, Grixis Delver, RDW, RadkosDW, and Boros. Vexing Devil is good IMO. I have not been unhappy with him yet. Zoo and Ranger Boros has made the best use of him so far. He's a definite 4x in any aggro deck that has Red in it, and pretty good in tempo decks with the same. Him with Bob is just funny good.
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Yea Im really wanting to try a Ranger deck now. To be fair its not soo much different than like playing a grave titan or even attacking with Hero of blade hold. The fact that you stagger the cost and cards however makes it powerfully flexible. Ranger was already awesome in Boros so I dont think this breaks him to much more.
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I don't think it's any more dangerous than it is now with other creatures. You won't attack with the devils until 2 turns later (unless you have 6 mana). Turn 6 is quite some time for many other decks to have already beaten you.
Yeah. The scary thing is Ranger into double Devils... take 8 to the face? ok, Proclamation of Rebirth. Now what?
hehe I can't wait to add a playset of these Devils into my Boros-Proc deck.
By the time you get devils via ranger and cast them, expect them to stick. You mainly want to proc them turn 3. It will generally win you the game (sweepers aside).
I don't think it's any more dangerous than it is now with other creatures. You won't attack with the devils until 2 turns later (unless you have 6 mana). Turn 6 is quite some time for many other decks to have already beaten you.
Game 1 vs combo is the weakness I'm really seeing, fortunately white has plenty of hate cards for things like that, including RDW hate. Slayers stronghold speeds up the play to turn 5. I think devils and procs are the stronger interaction than devils and rangers (hockey puns aside lol).
I don't think it's any more dangerous than it is now with other creatures. You won't attack with the devils until 2 turns later (unless you have 6 mana). Turn 6 is quite some time for many other decks to have already beaten you.
This is true, however the real power of the deck is Proc having Devil and some other one drops to get full value on 3rd turn. Ranger adds some redundancy and more card advantage to the deck, and let's you run a toolbox to boot, and that is what makes it a great addition.
8 damage that you can tutor for is nothing to scoff at, but I don't think it will deserve the ban hammer. Red needed some good cards and it got them. Proclamation + Eos + Devil is a great engine of destruction but cards like Path to Exile and surgical extraction exist and they will keep the engine out of its barn-yard-shenanigans.
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Vexing devil will never ever ever get banned.
As it is just a (slightly worse) lava spike.
The interaction with ranger is OK but I do not think it will bring zoo back.
Even without ranger, I think vexing devil is a pretty good replacement for wild nacatl (Sorry if that word still burns some people)
I mean, it's not -as- good, but it's still pretty strong.
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My main reasoning for this is because it's clearly powerful synergy, and it seems not a lot of people have thought about it. But i can see Ranger being the top end of the deck, with Goyf and other silly powerful cards (like KOTR) to create a ferocious Zoo deck that has huge reach potential.
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I don't know about zoo but I've been testing it in borosproc to some very good results. Playing a ranger and getting some combination of vex, martyr, or serra depending on the game state has been amazing.
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hehe I can't wait to add a playset of these Devils into my Boros-Proc deck.
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I've already seen a deck around Ranger of EoS, Vexing Devil, Prc Rebirth. It's rough.
tbh... I see ban written all over Vexing Devil.
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By the time you get devils via ranger and cast them, expect them to stick. You mainly want to proc them turn 3. It will generally win you the game (sweepers aside).
Game 1 vs combo is the weakness I'm really seeing, fortunately white has plenty of hate cards for things like that, including RDW hate. Slayers stronghold speeds up the play to turn 5. I think devils and procs are the stronger interaction than devils and rangers (hockey puns aside lol).
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This is true, however the real power of the deck is Proc having Devil and some other one drops to get full value on 3rd turn. Ranger adds some redundancy and more card advantage to the deck, and let's you run a toolbox to boot, and that is what makes it a great addition.
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As it is just a (slightly worse) lava spike.
The interaction with ranger is OK but I do not think it will bring zoo back.
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Even without ranger, I think vexing devil is a pretty good replacement for wild nacatl (Sorry if that word still burns some people)
I mean, it's not -as- good, but it's still pretty strong.
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This times a million. This thing is worse than Kird Ape if your talking about Zoo.
How so? Kird Ape hasn't been good for a very long time, essentially since Taiga was in Type 2.
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