Curious what you guys think of using a combo of Notion Thief and Teferi's Puzzle Box. Once they are both down it essentially locks your opponent out of casting anything but instants the rest of the game. Teferi's allows the normal draw to take place and then puts all of the cards in the players hand on the bottom of their deck. Notion Thief then takes over and doesn't allow the cards to be replaced since the first draw already happened and actually draws you a card for all of their discarded cards.
Viable you guys think, if for nothing else other than some fun?
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Curious what you guys think of using a combo of Notion Thief and Teferi's Puzzle Box. Once they are both down it essentially locks your opponent out of casting anything but instants the rest of the game. Teferi's allows the normal draw to take place and then puts all of the cards in the players hand on the bottom of their deck. Notion Thief then takes over and doesn't allow the cards to be replaced since the first draw already happened and actually draws you a card for all of their discarded cards.
Viable you guys think, if for nothing else other than some fun?
Most of the removal spells played in the format are instant and kill notion thief.
You're essentially letting them cycle through their deck to find it.
Well, no, i guess that's not true, they don't draw and then discard them, it's replacing the draw. So i mean, i guess it's an okay combo, but it seems like it comes down too late. DrWorm has a list that abuses notion thief with cards that can actually be used to help you without him. I mean, this doesn't come down til T5. Plenty of combo decks win the game before that, or at least have the capability to do so some %'age. Whereas you're coming down quite a bit later, and it doesn't necessarily win you the game on the spot.
It's a neat combo though. It'd be hilarious in EDH.
If you are interested I started a Notion Thief deck thread here. It never really ended up being very resilient, but there were some great interactions.
Viable you guys think, if for nothing else other than some fun?
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Most of the removal spells played in the format are instant and kill notion thief.
You're essentially letting them cycle through their deck to find it.
Well, no, i guess that's not true, they don't draw and then discard them, it's replacing the draw. So i mean, i guess it's an okay combo, but it seems like it comes down too late. DrWorm has a list that abuses notion thief with cards that can actually be used to help you without him. I mean, this doesn't come down til T5. Plenty of combo decks win the game before that, or at least have the capability to do so some %'age. Whereas you're coming down quite a bit later, and it doesn't necessarily win you the game on the spot.
It's a neat combo though. It'd be hilarious in EDH.
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It actually doesn't replace the draw. There was a ruling that states the draw still happens before Teferi's effect resolves.
10/4/2004 You do your normal draw before this ability is put on the stack.
This is true but since he's in UB there are counter spell protections that could be run.
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