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First card is good in commander lol. I wonder if that ETB templating will become standard.
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UUU Merfolk UUU "Above the waves you may be mighty indeed, but down here you belong to me."
-Empress Galina
UBR Cruel Control UBR "The essence of every world, every spell, and every thought is power. Nothing else matters, because nothing else exists."
-Nicol Bolas
First card is good in commander lol. I wonder if that ETB templating will become standard.
This is nothing against you but I swear this phrase is the one that I hate the most in Spoiler season.
Random, unplayable, overcosted jank = "Well at least it's good in EDH/Commander"
My reaction every time I see that:
I was just kidding. I dislike that phrase as well, but I know I can get a laugh out of it sometimes.
I'm hoping to see some sweet cards this week.
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UUU Merfolk UUU "Above the waves you may be mighty indeed, but down here you belong to me."
-Empress Galina
UBR Cruel Control UBR "The essence of every world, every spell, and every thought is power. Nothing else matters, because nothing else exists."
-Nicol Bolas
Lets go Undermine . Please grant me this Lord Silumgar.
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UUU Merfolk UUU "Above the waves you may be mighty indeed, but down here you belong to me."
-Empress Galina
UBR Cruel Control UBR "The essence of every world, every spell, and every thought is power. Nothing else matters, because nothing else exists."
-Nicol Bolas
UUU Merfolk UUU "Above the waves you may be mighty indeed, but down here you belong to me."
-Empress Galina
UBR Cruel Control UBR "The essence of every world, every spell, and every thought is power. Nothing else matters, because nothing else exists."
-Nicol Bolas
Lets go Undermine . Please grant me this Lord Silumgar.
I approve of this.
The problem is that I don't trust Wizards anymore when it comes UB cards.
Apparently combining the need for omnipotence with the need for omniscience leads to janky mill effects -_-
What a disgrace for the best color combination in the game...
Lets go Undermine . Please grant me this Lord Silumgar.
I approve of this.
The problem is that I don't trust Wizards anymore when it comes UB cards.
Apparently combining the need for omnipotence with the need for omniscience leads to janky mill effects -_-
What a disgrace for the best color combination in the game...
Amen.
Did you see that Silumgar is now an Elder dragon!?!?
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Level 2 in progress...
UUU Merfolk UUU "Above the waves you may be mighty indeed, but down here you belong to me."
-Empress Galina
UBR Cruel Control UBR "The essence of every world, every spell, and every thought is power. Nothing else matters, because nothing else exists."
-Nicol Bolas
Lets go Undermine . Please grant me this Lord Silumgar.
I approve of this.
The problem is that I don't trust Wizards anymore when it comes UB cards.
Apparently combining the need for omnipotence with the need for omniscience leads to janky mill effects -_-
What a disgrace for the best color combination in the game...
Amen.
Did you see that Silumgar is now an Elder dragon!?!?
Well nothing too good yet. Stratus Dancer is interesting.
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UUU Merfolk UUU "Above the waves you may be mighty indeed, but down here you belong to me."
-Empress Galina
UBR Cruel Control UBR "The essence of every world, every spell, and every thought is power. Nothing else matters, because nothing else exists."
-Nicol Bolas
Dragonlord Silumgar is meh. He's like a bigger Sower of Temptation that dodges Bolt, but dies to Path and Dismember and Maelstrom Pulse all the same.
Dragon Tempest is cool. It feels like a Johnny card, but there doesn't seem to be a way to break it. Birds pay for themselves immediately with this thing out. Maybe you can put some janky Sliver combo deck together, with Galerider+Manaweft/Gemhide, using Tempest instead of Firewake/Blur, as your mana engine. You can't Pact for Tempest, unlike Firewake though. There aren't too many low-CMC dragons to abuse with the second effect, other than changelings.
Profound Journey is basically Obzedat's Aid with two uses. It only costs a single color of mana though. It costs exactly the same as Elesh Norn, which brought the Gifts combo to mind. Maybe there's some combo that UW Tron can use that involves this card - Mindslaver + Academy Ruins + Journey + something? (Keep in mind you don't get rebound with Snapcaster.) If you play things like Oblivion Ring, you can get those back too.
Stratus Dancer is tricky to evaluate. I feel that the face-up mode is better than face-down - you won't play it face-down unless you're drowning in mana or are very sure that they don't have removal. It's not like any deck wants Welkin Tern/Vaporkin though.
Ojutai's Summons is a nice callback to Talrand's Invocation, but unplayable (at least for Constructed).
love sac based black mechanics. stratus seems maybe standard playable. the control magic dragon is strong.. probably not enough for modern but man its a sweet heartless summoning target
I'm just hoping for a cheap zombie with a decent Exploit. Preferably CMC 2, so I can curve out with Gravecrawler->Exploit Zombie That Discards Or Something Maybe
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Speaking of Sidisi 2.0, I think she's got potential as a top end. If Twin Remands her and then goes off, it bites, but you WILL get that Slaughter Pact or hoser or threat once she resolves as long as you've got something else to sac or you're willing to sac her. If you sac her, she's a sucky Diabolic Tutor, but if you sac something else, she starts looking better--likely a lot better, as she's a Deathtouch 4/6 who blocks like a king. Ideally, I'd rather sac mana dorks or Lingering Souls.
I like Sidisi a lot. 4/6 Deathtouch kills AND survives a fight with almost any ground creature in the format (Tas, Rhino, Goyf, Scooze, etc.). There are a lot of valuable cards you can get with Sidisi (as Lectrys said, Slaughter Pact is excellent), regardless of the matchup and regardless of the turn.
Stratus Dancer is like izzet said, hard to evaulate... but I'm thinking a delver tempo like deck might want it. you can pay 3 for a 2/2 and beat down with it in that style of deck, then if a bolt targets it, or a different critter, you can fizzle counter it. It protects from some wrath and pyro effects too. After you flip it you get a 3/2 flyer. If your just needing to race, you can just pay 2 and get a 2/1 flyer, which isnt the worst either.
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/magic-fundamentals/the-rumor-mill/597757-dtk-deathbringer-dragonlord-dragons-of-tarkir
Remember to keep all DTK spoiler discussion to this thread. Don't spam, be constructive, be nice, etc. Let's get excited to enjoy our new set with some (hopefully) awesome Modern cards!
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Level 2 in progress...
UUU Merfolk UUU
"Above the waves you may be mighty indeed, but down here you belong to me."
-Empress Galina
UBR Cruel Control UBR
"The essence of every world, every spell, and every thought is power. Nothing else matters, because nothing else exists."
-Nicol Bolas
This is nothing against you but I swear this phrase is the one that I hate the most in Spoiler season.
Random, unplayable, overcosted jank = "Well at least it's good in EDH/Commander"
My reaction every time I see that:
I was just kidding. I dislike that phrase as well, but I know I can get a laugh out of it sometimes.
I'm hoping to see some sweet cards this week.
Level 2 in progress...
UUU Merfolk UUU
"Above the waves you may be mighty indeed, but down here you belong to me."
-Empress Galina
UBR Cruel Control UBR
"The essence of every world, every spell, and every thought is power. Nothing else matters, because nothing else exists."
-Nicol Bolas
Don't worry. I know you just were kidding. Not everybody is though...
And I think we don't even need to talk about Deathbringer Dragonlord lol.
A seven-mana card that needs two additional conditions fulfilled to be more than just 5/6 Flyer.
You can really tell which cards Wizards is making intentionally bad
Level 2 in progress...
UUU Merfolk UUU
"Above the waves you may be mighty indeed, but down here you belong to me."
-Empress Galina
UBR Cruel Control UBR
"The essence of every world, every spell, and every thought is power. Nothing else matters, because nothing else exists."
-Nicol Bolas
Level 2 in progress...
UUU Merfolk UUU
"Above the waves you may be mighty indeed, but down here you belong to me."
-Empress Galina
UBR Cruel Control UBR
"The essence of every world, every spell, and every thought is power. Nothing else matters, because nothing else exists."
-Nicol Bolas
I approve of this.
The problem is that I don't trust Wizards anymore when it comes UB cards.
Apparently combining the need for omnipotence with the need for omniscience leads to janky mill effects -_-
What a disgrace for the best color combination in the game...
Amen.
Did you see that Silumgar is now an Elder dragon!?!?
Level 2 in progress...
UUU Merfolk UUU
"Above the waves you may be mighty indeed, but down here you belong to me."
-Empress Galina
UBR Cruel Control UBR
"The essence of every world, every spell, and every thought is power. Nothing else matters, because nothing else exists."
-Nicol Bolas
Man, he is definitely a bomb. That is for sure
Level 2 in progress...
UUU Merfolk UUU
"Above the waves you may be mighty indeed, but down here you belong to me."
-Empress Galina
UBR Cruel Control UBR
"The essence of every world, every spell, and every thought is power. Nothing else matters, because nothing else exists."
-Nicol Bolas
The phrase "Well at least it's good in EDH/Commander" simply means "I can ignore this card". People are all talking in secret language nowadays.
DECKS:
UB Faeries [Midrange/Tempo]
RWUGB Affinity[Aggro]
FAERIES TOO STRONK!!!1111
- Fae Prophecy, 201
5678Dragon Tempest is cool. It feels like a Johnny card, but there doesn't seem to be a way to break it. Birds pay for themselves immediately with this thing out. Maybe you can put some janky Sliver combo deck together, with Galerider+Manaweft/Gemhide, using Tempest instead of Firewake/Blur, as your mana engine. You can't Pact for Tempest, unlike Firewake though. There aren't too many low-CMC dragons to abuse with the second effect, other than changelings.
Profound Journey is basically Obzedat's Aid with two uses. It only costs a single color of mana though. It costs exactly the same as Elesh Norn, which brought the Gifts combo to mind. Maybe there's some combo that UW Tron can use that involves this card - Mindslaver + Academy Ruins + Journey + something? (Keep in mind you don't get rebound with Snapcaster.) If you play things like Oblivion Ring, you can get those back too.
Stratus Dancer is tricky to evaluate. I feel that the face-up mode is better than face-down - you won't play it face-down unless you're drowning in mana or are very sure that they don't have removal. It's not like any deck wants Welkin Tern/Vaporkin though.
Ojutai's Summons is a nice callback to Talrand's Invocation, but unplayable (at least for Constructed).
| Ad Nauseam
| Infect
Big Johnny.
Can a creature with Exploit exploit itself, and if so does the exploit ability still go off?Wait nevermind, Mothership had words on it about that. Seems you can.
TIME FOR JANK PLAYS!
The mothership on Sidisi, Undead Vizier says the answers are yes and yes.
Speaking of Sidisi 2.0, I think she's got potential as a top end. If Twin Remands her and then goes off, it bites, but you WILL get that Slaughter Pact or hoser or threat once she resolves as long as you've got something else to sac or you're willing to sac her. If you sac her, she's a sucky Diabolic Tutor, but if you sac something else, she starts looking better--likely a lot better, as she's a Deathtouch 4/6 who blocks like a king. Ideally, I'd rather sac mana dorks or Lingering Souls.
ALSO REBOUND! kiln fiend is happy.