Really loving the flavor of the cards and how they modify the story! As for Modern, I am holding out hope for some crazy rebound cards.
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And I did not speak out
Because I was not a filthy spike
Then they came for the cantrips
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a filthy blue player
Then they came for the Bloodbraid Elves
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a filthy midrange player
Then they came for the Seething Song
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a filthy combo player
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
I agree that it's an awesome card, but one element that worries me is the semi win-moreness of Exploit on a 5 CMC creature. For Zombiesi to be good, you need to stick her and get the tutor effect. That means you need at least one other creature in play, which probably means something like a Souls token or a Vampire token off Sorin. But that gets us a bit into the win-more realm because now we are playing her onto a board where we have at least some presence, which doesn't make her the best turn 7+ topdeck in a grindy game. Don't think this totally disqualifies her but it is a consideration we need to think about.
Zombisi seems all right. But I'm skeptical that her ability is that good.
If your deck is just a pile of good, redundant cards, then fetching one isn't that great. If your deck depends on Sidisi to an extent, if she's neutralized your plan falls apart. Gotta be somewhere in the middle I guess. Maybe one, two silver bullets? Something is really good but also situational so that you can use Sidisi to get away with only running one copy? The ol' Stoneforge Mystic strategy.
Having to sac a guy doesn't seem too much of an issue, considering Finks, Souls, et. al. She can even sacrifice herself, if you only want an extremely expensive tutor.
This set is just making me sad that you can't play Nic Fit in modern. There's lots of cool things I want to try, but without Veteran Explorer and Cabal Therapy shenanigans I don't believe I'd be able to get enough lands quickly.
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If you couldn't tell I hate greedy blue decks.
If you want Sidisi 2.0 to produce (painfully slow) CA, there's resolve Sidisi 2.0, sac her to herself, find Eternal Witness, recur her, resolve Sidisi 2.0 again, sac E. Wit., get something more useful. At least this is a way to make Sidisi 2.0 useful on an empty board...if you hate 5-mana 4/6's with Deathtouch.
Sure, there is a chance of spending $4 on a booster and getting the Mythic Rare $30 super card. There is also a chance of surviving putting your tongue in a light socket.
It would surprise me if there will be a better card then Sidisi for modern in this set. That is one sweet card. Otoh at some point they have to stop giving BG the best cards right?
Stratus Dancer is like izzet said, hard to evaulate... but I'm thinking a delver tempo like deck might want it. you can pay 3 for a 2/2 and beat down with it in that style of deck, then if a bolt targets it, or a different critter, you can fizzle counter it. It protects from some wrath and pyro effects too. After you flip it you get a 3/2 flyer. If your just needing to race, you can just pay 2 and get a 2/1 flyer, which isnt the worst either.
ALSO REBOUND! kiln fiend is happy.
I really like Stratus Dancer, but I agree; it's tricky to evaluate and not brainless easy to play either, because of the mana required for its morph abilities. I think it has a lot of potential though, like you said, in a tempo-style deck. All the stats are there for a solid 2cmc card; 2cmc for a 2/1 is like prerequisite to being a decent card (and it has flying on top of it). Then more abilities on top that make her seem good. 3cmc for a 2/2 isn't great, but the morph (flip-up) cost is really cheap, and once achieved, turns her into a 3/2 flyer. Like Delver but much more expensive. However, you can gain value from flipping her and blanking either removal or combo pieces. The flip doesn't use the stack, and the only way to stop the ability is either with something like Stifle or Trickbind (or that UUG counter from Ravnica block). Lastly, in multiples, she seems pretty sweet.
Zombie Sidisi seems awesome too. Nothing more to say about her.
I like Silumgar as well, though he's a bigger Sower of Temptations. So I'm not sure if he'll actually see much play. Cool card though.
Reprints the one card that people point to when saying that art objectifies women.
Well done Wizards.
Liliana does not objectify women in any way at all. We have gotten to a point in our society that every single picture of a women must be objectifying a women in some negative way......blah blah blah.. That is not the case. (((Sarcasm)))Picture of a girl drinking a milk shake, must be sex related and putting women down, picture of girl sitting on a beach, picture of a girl driving a car, picture of a girl on the moon at a new space station.)))
You have a picture of an attractive strong power women who girls dress up as for anime conventions. What more do you want? The picture is fine, happy to see a reprint. Sick of of seeing people claim that everything in existence must be putting women down. Then all I have to do is replace the word "women" with anything else to get the same mentality; fish, cats, arabs, blacks, jews, men, environment, whites, chinese, old people, etc. It doesn't matter what word I put in. Stop sucking life out of everything man. That artwork of her is awesome. Stop putting stuff down man. Just stop. If the picture was really as negative as you claim she would totally nude, in a kitchen, making sandwiches and giving blow jobs. Her abilities would be horrible as well. +1 do nothing -2 do nothing -6 do nothing. Instead liliana of the veil is an amazing planeswalker comparable to jace, the mind sculpter with great art to appreciate.
My suggestion listen to some comedy radio for a while, pandora is free, youtube is free there is something out there for you. ***** go make fun of somebody. The whole world is so serious and campaigning for some cause, or someones rights, everything is a hate crime, racist, sexist. blah blah blah.
"O no mcdonalds must be slandering a hate crime against skinny people every time they make a big mac." hahaha jeeze You're just someone perpetuating another groups negative perspective that they've made you believe is correct. Look at the picture for a hour and tell me what's wrong with it? I don't see anything.
I have heard vague rumors of a moustache-dispensing vending machine in a distant laundromat, across the street from a tattoo parlor. However, this information is shaky, and time is of the essence.
Now, I know the card was spoiled just today, but a card like Sidisi, Undead Vizier could go so well into a deck like the one Gerard Fabiano just won the open with. A card that tutors literally any card in your deck, while being able to eat tarmogoyfs and Siege Rhinos is very enticing to me.
Rebound coming back is going to hopefully be awesome. Sidisi, Undead Vizier might be ok, but I would need a good reason to not just play Batterskull in monoblack, Tasigur in BG or UB, or Blood Baron of Vizkopa in WB.
If Stratus Dancer countered noncreature spells it would probably be good enough, but I think that it isn't pushed enough for Modern.
I think she's pretty strong, but my problem with her is that she can be a pretty mediocre top deck if you have no creatures. No protection or evasion is a weakness, and using her as a 5 mana tutor isn't very good as Diabolic Tutor doesn't see play.
Now that said, she's a good card and could see play. Seems like a 1-of to me.
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Legacy: RUG Lands
EDH: Sidisi turn-3 storm
First, if I'm playing a 5cc black tutor it would be liliana vess. I like the power of sidisi, but I think it might be too slow. It is big enough to stop the bleeding, and it does allow you to go get an answer to turn things around, so it's solid when you're behind provided you have some creature. Black has plenty of recurring creatures to sac: gravecrawler, bloodghast, everything with undying, bloodsoaked champion, definitely potential.
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I thought about it, but I can only see it being good in Skred Red or a Rakdos Midrange deck if it is playable at all. UR doesn't really need a big 4 mana threat, WR has Hero of Bladehold and Restoration Angel in the 4-drop slot, Dega has Butcher of the Horde+Hero and Angel, and WUR has Lightning Angel along with Hero and Restoration Angel. Maybe Skred Red could use it though.
I thought about it, but I can only see it being good in Skred Red or a Rakdos Midrange deck if it is playable at all. UR doesn't really need a big 4 mana threat, WR has Hero of Bladehold and Restoration Angel in the 4-drop slot, Dega has Butcher of the Horde+Hero and Angel, and WUR has Lightning Angel along with Hero and Restoration Angel. Maybe Skred Red could use it though.
It's removal retaliation effect is noteworthy though.
I thought about it, but I can only see it being good in Skred Red or a Rakdos Midrange deck if it is playable at all. UR doesn't really need a big 4 mana threat, WR has Hero of Bladehold and Restoration Angel in the 4-drop slot, Dega has Butcher of the Horde+Hero and Angel, and WUR has Lightning Angel along with Hero and Restoration Angel. Maybe Skred Red could use it though.
It's removal retaliation effect is noteworthy though.
It is, but I'd rather have a white 4-drop instead because of their more powerful effects.
The dragon enchantment thing has got to be cute with changelings burning stuff on ETB.
That could indeed be cute. Silly changeling shenanigans usually are.
Rebound has potential, but I feel like they'll overcost them all just enough to make them too slow for modern. Here's hoping we can get a draw spell out of it for control that isn't completely busted like the delve duo.
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Quote from TheDasuri:
First they came for the ghosts of past standards like Jace the Mindsculptor and artifact lands
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a filthy spike
Then they came for the cantrips
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a filthy blue player
Then they came for the Bloodbraid Elves
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a filthy midrange player
Then they came for the Seething Song
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a filthy combo player
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
I agree that it's an awesome card, but one element that worries me is the semi win-moreness of Exploit on a 5 CMC creature. For Zombiesi to be good, you need to stick her and get the tutor effect. That means you need at least one other creature in play, which probably means something like a Souls token or a Vampire token off Sorin. But that gets us a bit into the win-more realm because now we are playing her onto a board where we have at least some presence, which doesn't make her the best turn 7+ topdeck in a grindy game. Don't think this totally disqualifies her but it is a consideration we need to think about.
If your deck is just a pile of good, redundant cards, then fetching one isn't that great. If your deck depends on Sidisi to an extent, if she's neutralized your plan falls apart. Gotta be somewhere in the middle I guess. Maybe one, two silver bullets? Something is really good but also situational so that you can use Sidisi to get away with only running one copy? The ol' Stoneforge Mystic strategy.
Having to sac a guy doesn't seem too much of an issue, considering Finks, Souls, et. al. She can even sacrifice herself, if you only want an extremely expensive tutor.
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I really like Stratus Dancer, but I agree; it's tricky to evaluate and not brainless easy to play either, because of the mana required for its morph abilities. I think it has a lot of potential though, like you said, in a tempo-style deck. All the stats are there for a solid 2cmc card; 2cmc for a 2/1 is like prerequisite to being a decent card (and it has flying on top of it). Then more abilities on top that make her seem good. 3cmc for a 2/2 isn't great, but the morph (flip-up) cost is really cheap, and once achieved, turns her into a 3/2 flyer. Like Delver but much more expensive. However, you can gain value from flipping her and blanking either removal or combo pieces. The flip doesn't use the stack, and the only way to stop the ability is either with something like Stifle or Trickbind (or that UUG counter from Ravnica block). Lastly, in multiples, she seems pretty sweet.
Zombie Sidisi seems awesome too. Nothing more to say about her.
I like Silumgar as well, though he's a bigger Sower of Temptations. So I'm not sure if he'll actually see much play. Cool card though.
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Sidisi, Undead Vizier might be ok, but I would need a good reason to not just play Batterskull in monoblack, Tasigur in BG or UB, or Blood Baron of Vizkopa in WB.
If Stratus Dancer countered noncreature spells it would probably be good enough, but I think that it isn't pushed enough for Modern.
Storm Crow is strictly worse than Seacoast Drake.
Now that said, she's a good card and could see play. Seems like a 1-of to me.
Modern - GB Elves, UW Ojutai Control
Legacy - BWG Junk Stoneblade
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UB Tezzerator
UBW Gifts
B 8Rack
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RB Goblins
I thought about it, but I can only see it being good in Skred Red or a Rakdos Midrange deck if it is playable at all. UR doesn't really need a big 4 mana threat, WR has Hero of Bladehold and Restoration Angel in the 4-drop slot, Dega has Butcher of the Horde+Hero and Angel, and WUR has Lightning Angel along with Hero and Restoration Angel. Maybe Skred Red could use it though.
Storm Crow is strictly worse than Seacoast Drake.
It's removal retaliation effect is noteworthy though.
It is, but I'd rather have a white 4-drop instead because of their more powerful effects.
Storm Crow is strictly worse than Seacoast Drake.
First off, Sidisi Draws you the card, it doesn't put it ontop of your deck, big difference. Plus the body massively outweights lillys other abilities.
Secondly why would you cast a 5 drop in order to grab a 2 mana enchantment thats glacially slow? Bit late for that by then..
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That could indeed be cute. Silly changeling shenanigans usually are.
Rebound has potential, but I feel like they'll overcost them all just enough to make them too slow for modern. Here's hoping we can get a draw spell out of it for control that isn't completely busted like the delve duo.