Chain raw card advantage/card draw. Cryptic Command, Sphinx's Revelation, Esper Charm, Jace's Ingenuity, etc. Abzan plans to play a ton of 1 for 1's and end with the biggest threat, the best way to beat them is with raw card advantage and better bombs.
I'm not sure if I agree with the cards in this post but I definitely agree with the sentiment. Junk tries to do exactly what Jund tries to do - trade favorably until neither player has any cards left but the junk player has a better board due to multiple favorable trades. Using those high value counterspells like Cryptic then flashing them back with Snapcaster will break their back IF you can stall them out long enough to get to that point. So I am seeing a nice UW control list shaping up to be a junk killer.
Beating Junk has a lot to about either being faster than them like Burn or having a super great late game with cards that over power them like U/W/x Control. I play Control so thats my way of out-valuing them. My biggest problem has typically been lingering souls, Liliana and Thoughtseize and Duress out of the sideboard. These cards are just tough to beat, but possible.
Beating Junk has a lot to about either being faster than them like Burn or having a super great late game with cards that over power them like U/W/x Control. I play Control so thats my way of out-valuing them. My biggest problem has typically been lingering souls, Liliana and Thoughtseize and Duress out of the sideboard. These cards are just tough to beat, but possible.
Leyline of Sanctity stops all of those cards and does a ton of work against other decks as well.
Leyline is hit or miss against Junk. It does nothing lingering souls, it doesn't stop Liliana's discard power. All it can do is stop discard spells IF you have it in hand, Game 2 or 3 and play it on zero. Then of course the other copies are dead draws. Now I know this may the best offered, but it doesn't do enough and is an awkward style card.
Leyline is hit or miss against Junk. It does nothing lingering souls, it doesn't stop Liliana's discard power. All it can do is stop discard spells IF you have it in hand, Game 2 or 3 and play it on zero. Then of course the other copies are dead draws. Now I know this may the best offered, but it doesn't do enough and is an awkward style card.
Point is that Leyline is good vs Burn and has splash hate here vs Junk.
Dont beat Junk, it is fair, beat the unfair decks.
And for the love of god, no one mentioned Batterskull, that is the real 5cmc game breaker, not Baron, nor Sigarda, Baron is ridiculous, it dies to lots of stuff in the deck, Sigarda is very annoying but it is just a wall and can be killed with some combat tricks and be walled by souls.
On the other hand, batterskull only dies to Pulse at a tapout, the junk player may be able to delay your batterskull, but not respond it and a 8/9 Vigilance Trample Lifelink creature is very good, a 5/5 flier too
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Dont beat Junk, it is fair, beat the unfair decks.
And for the love of god, no one mentioned Batterskull, that is the real 5cmc game breaker, not Baron, nor Sigarda, Baron is ridiculous, it dies to lots of stuff in the deck, Sigarda is very annoying but it is just a wall and can be killed with some combat tricks and be walled by souls.
On the other hand, batterskull only dies to Pulse at a tapout, the junk player may be able to delay your batterskull, but not respond it and a 8/9 Vigilance Trample Lifelink creature is very good, a 5/5 flier too
Skull is bad against Junk as it gets easily outclassed by Goyf, Rhino and Tasigur. Wurmcoil is the much better option because it basically says: Path or die.
I'll stick to Blood Baron as the creature that just eats them alive. He can't be Path'ed, or chump blocked by lingering soul tokens, smiters, Tasigur, no abrupt decay either. They can pump and chump with Goyf or force me to sacrifice him if he is my only creature and Liliana is on the board. Blood Baron also has lifelink which is relevant. If it's not Blood Baron, I'd go for Baneslayer Angel.
I play 4c gifts and think of junk as a mirror. I take out all my discard for more threats--and run a second unburial rites and either a second grave titan or the first wurmcoil.
Junk/Jund can't beat a resolved grave titan if they can't path it--helps if you can cheat it in of course.
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5678I'm not sure if I agree with the cards in this post but I definitely agree with the sentiment. Junk tries to do exactly what Jund tries to do - trade favorably until neither player has any cards left but the junk player has a better board due to multiple favorable trades. Using those high value counterspells like Cryptic then flashing them back with Snapcaster will break their back IF you can stall them out long enough to get to that point. So I am seeing a nice UW control list shaping up to be a junk killer.
Leyline of Sanctity stops all of those cards and does a ton of work against other decks as well.
Point is that Leyline is good vs Burn and has splash hate here vs Junk.
And for the love of god, no one mentioned Batterskull, that is the real 5cmc game breaker, not Baron, nor Sigarda, Baron is ridiculous, it dies to lots of stuff in the deck, Sigarda is very annoying but it is just a wall and can be killed with some combat tricks and be walled by souls.
On the other hand, batterskull only dies to Pulse at a tapout, the junk player may be able to delay your batterskull, but not respond it and a 8/9 Vigilance Trample Lifelink creature is very good, a 5/5 flier too
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WGBJunk:Feel the Rhinos WGB
RWUAmerican Taxes RWU
EDH
XKarn and the Living StaxX RETIRED
GWURoon of The Hidden RealmGWU
Skull is bad against Junk as it gets easily outclassed by Goyf, Rhino and Tasigur. Wurmcoil is the much better option because it basically says: Path or die.
Junk/Jund can't beat a resolved grave titan if they can't path it--helps if you can cheat it in of course.