I'd be looking for a deck which a budget version can be built of for around $300 or less. I do have a good number of old Melira-pod staples, if that's relevant (but I doubt that podless pod is playable).
So I could really use a few folks input on my upcoming deck decision.
I have settled on either playing G/R Tron or Grixis Delver for the foreseeable future. I would like to have both, but current budget won't allow it.
I like Tron for its inevitable late game with a good control and jund/junk matchup; but fear its issues with infect/burn/fast aggro and combo (particularly twin). I guess I could slowly pickup the cards for U/W Tron for some variability and improved matchups if G/R is unfavored.
I like Delver for its versatility and generally 50/50 matchups; but for it I worry about G/R tron, podless pod, and b/w tokens.
I really don't know my local meta, but it would be safe to assume it would be a competitive reflection of the national scene. I am very comfortable with both types of strategies.
What I am particularly looking for is a competitive deck that will serve me well over time. What are your recommendations?
If you do recommend tron, should I wait for MM15 to pick up the karns, emrakul, and hopefully a spellskite reprint?
So I could really use a few folks input on my upcoming deck decision.
I have settled on either playing G/R Tron or Grixis Delver for the foreseeable future. I would like to have both, but current budget won't allow it.
I like Tron for its inevitable late game with a good control and jund/junk matchup; but fear its issues with infect/burn/fast aggro and combo (particularly twin). I guess I could slowly pickup the cards for U/W Tron for some variability and improved matchups if G/R is unfavored.
I like Delver for its versatility and generally 50/50 matchups; but for it I worry about G/R tron, podless pod, and b/w tokens.
I really don't know my local meta, but it would be safe to assume it would be a competitive reflection of the national scene. I am very comfortable with both types of strategies.
What I am particularly looking for is a competitive deck that will serve me well over time. What are your recommendations?
If you do recommend tron, should I wait for MM15 to pick up the karns, emrakul, and hopefully a spellskite reprint?
Thank you all for your time and consideration.
If you pick up Tron, your only option is Tron. The deck doesn't particularly share cards well. Blue-Tron variants don't play Karns and only play one or two Wurmcoils. Mono blue doesn't even play Emrakul. Delver plays a lot of cards for other decks in that it plays shocks and fetches, Snapcasters, some counters, some removal. I think moving between Delver and another deck is easier.
I'm not sure how good I think Grixis Delver is right now, Delver has just not been good in a long time, and it's relatively early to tell if it's going to stay. RG Tron, on the other hand, has been a mediocre deck for the past few months as it fell out of favour. The bad Twin matchup doesn't compensate for the good BGx matchup.
I'll sell UW Tron to anyone who's interested :). There's a link to the primer in my sig, feel free to come and take a look and see if you like it. Most of our bad matchups aren't popular (like RG Tron) so it makes it a lot easier for us.
EDIT: If you want to get into Tron, I do recommend waiting for Karns.
Hi, I've been playing U Tron for a while at my local store, but I haven't been very succesful getting always 2-1-1 or something similar. I'm looking for a deck that does well on FNMs (not too slow). It would be my only deck for a while, so I guess it should be well rounded and do 'well' in a variety of metas. Also, the people at my local store is pretty competitive, so I wanted to have a good tier deck. I like every type of deck that has some interactions, but specially I like combo (although they don't usually have a lot of interactions). I was looking at GR Tron and I like it, but I feel it may have too little interaction for me. My budget would be around 400€, but I own cards from some decks. I wouldn't build jund/junk/abzan for budget reasons, nor Twin. Ty for the time.
Hi, I've been playing U Tron for a while at my local store, but I haven't been very succesful getting always 2-1-1 or something similar. I'm looking for a deck that does well on FNMs (not too slow). It would be my only deck for a while, so I guess it should be well rounded and do 'well' in a variety of metas. Also, the people at my local store is pretty competitive, so I wanted to have a good tier deck. I like every type of deck that has some interactions, but specially I like combo (although they don't usually have a lot of interactions). I was looking at GR Tron and I like it, but I feel it may have too little interaction for me. My budget would be around 400€, but I own cards from some decks. I wouldn't build jund/junk/abzan for budget reasons, nor Twin. Ty for the time.
As far as bang for the buck goes, it's hard to beat Burn. Nice and competitive on both the FNM and bigger event level. That being said, it's not that interactive. If your meta is heavy aggressive, I would not recommend GR Tron. If you want a non-twin competitive combo, maybe infect? It's somewhat interactive, and is a solid deck. When Noble Hiarchs are reprinted the price of it should drop a lot.
I like infect but I'm not sure how well positioned it is in the current meta =/
Really well positioned, it's one of the top 5 decks in the format right now.
Yeah but the new podless deck with collected company wouldn't be a good matchup, right? There is a couple of those in my local store. Anyway, it is the kind of deck I'm looking for.
I'd go as far as to recommend Affinity. It's fast, well positioned, it's not exactly combo, but it has a lot of synergy. Most people tend to think Affinity just drops their hand turn 1, but there's actually a lot of decision making in Affinity. Affinity only has a few spots in the main board that are flexible, but the side-board is extremely flexible due to being able to run 5 colors. The deck is right around your budget, but price varies depending on how you build your SB for your meta.
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I'd go as far as to recommend Affinity. It's fast, well positioned, it's not exactly combo, but it has a lot of synergy. Most people tend to think Affinity just drops their hand turn 1, but there's actually a lot of decision making in Affinity. Affinity only has a few spots in the main board that are flexible, but the side-board is extremely flexible due to being able to run 5 colors. The deck is right around your budget, but price varies depending on how you build your SB for your meta.
Affinity is another good choice, but keep in mind, people WILL hate it out a lot. Also, I would wait until MM2 to pick it up.
I wanted to come in here and ask what to play. Two weeks from today, I am going to switch decks. This is mainly for FNM, which is fairly competitive. I am currently playing Bogles, which has done pretty well.
These are the decks that I was considering in 2 weeks.
1. Twin - Maybe I should just play the best deck. Twin is the deck that a Spike like myself should play. I can win a lot, which helps my confidence in play, and would get me a lot of store credit.
2. Abzan Liege - I was considering playing this deck. It's pretty powerful and a good part is that it beats Junk Midrange, of which several of our best Modern players play Junk.
3. Abzan Collected Company (or Ghostway) - This would be a fun deck, but the sad part is that even if I combo and get infinite life, Twin still kills me by doing exactly that much damage. It would be a pretty fun deck though. (But I have played many "fun" decks the past months and am probably ready for a Spike deck.)
What would you suggest? I'm getting pretty bored of Bogles. While it's sweet to have a deck that people are not prepared for, it's also nice to have a deck with many more game play choices that can affect the win/loss ratio.
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Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander - Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build) (dead format for me)
I wanted to come in here and ask what to play. Two weeks from today, I am going to switch decks. This is mainly for FNM, which is fairly competitive. I am currently playing Bogles, which has done pretty well.
These are the decks that I was considering in 2 weeks.
1. Twin - Maybe I should just play the best deck. Twin is the deck that a Spike like myself should play. I can win a lot, which helps my confidence in play, and would get me a lot of store credit.
2. Abzan Liege - I was considering playing this deck. It's pretty powerful and a good part is that it beats Junk Midrange, of which several of our best Modern players play Junk.
3. Abzan Collected Company (or Ghostway) - This would be a fun deck, but the sad part is that even if I combo and get infinite life, Twin still kills me by doing exactly that much damage. It would be a pretty fun deck though. (But I have played many "fun" decks the past months and am probably ready for a Spike deck.)
What would you suggest? I'm getting pretty bored of Bogles. While it's sweet to have a deck that people are not prepared for, it's also nice to have a deck with many more game play choices that can affect the win/loss ratio.
If you just intend on taking it to your LGS, what decks are well positioned there? If you think you can win a lot with it, like it sounds like, then it seems like Twin would be the best choice. I wouldn't recommend Ghostway, as its been pretty much obsoleted by Collected Merila.
My meta is grixis, affinity and some abzan, burn and twin. What should I play ? I'd like control, playing in the opponent turn
I dunno how the matchup is against those decks, but UWR control is currently the top ranked control deck, and has been for a while. Alternately,there's esper control, which is an up and coming deck.
I would say our meta is approximately...
1 Junk Liege
3 Junk Midrange
2 UR Twin
1 Storm
1 Mono Green Devotion
1-2 Burn
2 UW Tron
1 GR Tron
1 -2 Affinity
1-2 Delver
5 rogue decks, consisting of Mono Black, GR Land D, Mill, Discard, random Combo decks
1 Grixis Reanimator
1 Mono Black Snow
It's a pretty mixed bag. Scapeshift used to be played, but it got "hated" out a bit by Mill and just numerous SB options. Affinity also used to be a good 15% as well, but most of the players don't play here anymore. I actually don't know if Collected Abzan would do well. It just seems fun and I would probably audible to a better deck come "Competitive REL time." But it many ways, I want to have more experience with Twin, the best deck, so that I can play as optimally as possible.
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Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
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I would say our meta is approximately...
1 Junk Liege
3 Junk Midrange
2 UR Twin
1 Storm
1 Mono Green Devotion
1-2 Burn
2 UW Tron
1 GR Tron
1 -2 Affinity
1-2 Delver
5 rogue decks, consisting of Mono Black, GR Land D, Mill, Discard, random Combo decks
1 Grixis Reanimator
1 Mono Black Snow
It's a pretty mixed bag. Scapeshift used to be played, but it got "hated" out a bit by Mill and just numerous SB options. Affinity also used to be a good 15% as well, but most of the players don't play here anymore. I actually don't know if Collected Abzan would do well. It just seems fun and I would probably audible to a better deck come "Competitive REL time." But it many ways, I want to have more experience with Twin, the best deck, so that I can play as optimally as possible.
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You could play UWR control, but it's pretty bad atm. Twin plays mostly on its opponent's turn and a lot of people see it as Modern's control deck.
What about uwr kiki or uwr with lingering souls ?
Neither are that great. I've played all the versions of UWR and they all suck. Splashing Lingering Souls probably makes the deck worse because now your mana is awful because you have to splash black. Lingering Souls also doesn't help the problem, which is that there's no good draw spells to use. With no good filter cards and no good draw spells, you have this problem where you want to keep drawing answers and keep drawing lands, but can only ever do one of them, and can never guarantee the one you need. Decks like Esper Stoneblade in Legacy play 6 1-mana draw effects and a couple Jace, while Miracles plays 7 and 4 Tops, plus a couple Jace. Blue-based Modern control typically sucks because they have no cheap way to see more cards.
PS. Serum Visions is not good enough for control. UR Twin plays it only because they're a combo deck and can afford to play a lesser card because they have disparity among cards (aka at certain points, combo cards have much higher value than other cards). UWR Control tends to want to value raw card advantage over card selection, making Serum Visions mediocre.
I don't think UWR control is all that strong; the only reason it got so popular was because Delver was everywhere. There were more things to hit with your Lightning Helixes and Bolts. I feel B is the superior color to splash with UW due to harder removal, hand disruption with Thoughtseize and Esper Charm, and a secondary wincon with Creeping Tar Pit.
You could play UWR control, but it's pretty bad atm. Twin plays mostly on its opponent's turn and a lot of people see it as Modern's control deck.
What about uwr kiki or uwr with lingering souls ?
Neither are that great. I've played all the versions of UWR and they all suck. Splashing Lingering Souls probably makes the deck worse because now your mana is awful because you have to splash black. Lingering Souls also doesn't help the problem, which is that there's no good draw spells to use. With no good filter cards and no good draw spells, you have this problem where you want to keep drawing answers and keep drawing lands, but can only ever do one of them, and can never guarantee the one you need. Decks like Esper Stoneblade in Legacy play 6 1-mana draw effects and a couple Jace, while Miracles plays 7 and 4 Tops, plus a couple Jace. Blue-based Modern control typically sucks because they have no cheap way to see more cards.
PS. Serum Visions is not good enough for control. UR Twin plays it only because they're a combo deck and can afford to play a lesser card because they have disparity among cards (aka at certain points, combo cards have much higher value than other cards). UWR Control tends to want to value raw card advantage over card selection, making Serum Visions mediocre.
Yeah I know the problem is there are no good countrips. I don't really like ur twin atm because grixis (both delver and control list) plays more counters then us and goyf is still a problem. I can't affront goyf to play tremur twin
If you want to try playing Twin with an extra wincon, try Grixis Twin. It gives you access to Black for stuff like Terminate, hand disruption and most importantly, Tasigur.
I want to play UW control next FNM. Full counters, removals and draws.
Wich list do you suggest ? Last time there were 3 grxis, 3 affinity, 1 tribal zoo, 2 abzan, 1 ur twin, 1 u tron and some rogue decks
3 Grixis what? It could be Delver, Twin, or Control. I think Affinity is slightly favoured for UWR, Zoo is probably even, Abzan is slightly favoured for Abzan, UR Twin is probably close to even, and I think U Tron is a bad matchup for UWR.
I don't think straight UW Control is better than UWR Control, and I know the more popular UWR lists right now are UWR Midrange. UWR Control is really heavily underplayed right now because the deck just isn't that good. The problem is that the deck needs to consistently hit land drops while consistently removing creatures. It makes you have to draw extremely well to do well with the deck. You don't have enough options for raw card draw or card selection. I loved playing Think Twice in UWR, but the problem was that Think Twice was too slow and didn't interact with the board. So while I was getting the card advantage I needed, I wasn't interacting with creatures and then getting run over.
If you're open to other sorts of UW Control decks, UW Tron is gaining a lot of popularity right now. There's a link to the primer in my signature.
the consistent bi-color mana base gives you the possibility to play 4 tectonic edge (gr tron is the worst mu)
Isn't Ghost Quarter more useful against Tron? I feel like taking out their 5th land isn't very important. Seems like Ghost Quartering one of the Tron lands, then paying 2 life to use Surgical Extraction on it is a pretty good disruption plan out of the board.
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I don't like playing tron cause of tons of hates. I think atm UW is better than UWR, the consistent bi-color mana base gives you the possibility to play 4 tectonic edge (gr tron is the worst mu) and still have an efficient mana base and you don't die to blood moon and choke. Perhaps the only bad think, comparate to UWR, is that UW doesn't have fast removal to kill drop 1 (delver/guide/lavamancer/monastery) like lightning bolt. I'll never play UWx midrange, you can't beat abzan/jund.
UW Tron is less reliant on Tron. I win more often to Gifts Combo than I do to Tron, and I've won through Blood Moon several times before. Hell, I've cast Emrakul through Blood Moon. It's not as reliant on Tron as people tend to think. People just assume "it's Tron, it loses to Tron hate", but it really doesn't.
The early removal is really important given that the format has Burn, Affinity, Infect, Wilted-Abzan, and Merfolk in the top 10 most played decks. Each of them really want early removal for creatures. If you're not doing that, you absolutely need to Wrath on 4, and I don't think UW Control plays enough to do stuff like that. It tends to play cards like Sphinx's Rev and Think Twice, which I both think are really bad in this format.
UWR Control plays 2-3 Tec Edges most of the time. With UW Control, you get what, a couple of Calciform Pools? How is that going to save you from losing to Choke? It's still going to be quite bad, I would think. Blood Moon won't be as bad, you're right, but you can certainly still play around it as UWR Control by fetching up basics.
At the end of the day, if you want to just play UW Control, then play it and call it a day. You seem dead set on playing it, and I don't think any amount of me saying otherwise is going to convince you.
What is a good deck to play? I'd really like to play a combo deck. Splintertwin seems strong against affinity, but weak to GBx. I don't think that Tron is my deck-style of choice, and I admittedly don't have the skill to play combo. I have a natural love for blue and would prefer a blue-based combo deck that would be good if one would work.
Gift Tron doesn't have fast removal too. Ok you can win throught blood moon but you are not happy to do with that. As UW you don't lose to choke because it runs 4 celestial and 4 fortress. No I'm not sure what play, but I'm sure that I won't lose to affinity, maybe an UW core with a litte splash of red just for bolts
UW Control tends not to run 4 Fortress, instead sticking to more basics, which is better against Blood Moon and worse against Choke. In fact, recent lists didn't even play any Fortress. It's a bit awkward in some situations and you tend to see more Blood Moons than Choke (Choke really isn't that common).
UW Tron doesn't have fast removal outside Path either, but it has other options to deal with aggressive decks. Playing Gifts gives you access to Gifts combo, so you can have turn 3 or 4 Elesh Norns, which decks like Affinity and Infect tend to scoop to. You can also play a triple Wrath package so you can now have Gifts find a board clear, or sometimes just turn 3 Wrath from a Signet. I'm not saying it's better than UWR, but it's a lot better than UW.
The thing about the red splash is that control really loves Electrolyze. In fact, if what you want to do is not lose to Affinity, Electrolyze is insane. It's often a 3-for-1 in that matchup.
What is a good deck to play? I'd really like to play a combo deck. Splintertwin seems strong against affinity, but weak to GBx. I don't think that Tron is my deck-style of choice, and I admittedly don't have the skill to play combo. I have a natural love for blue and would prefer a blue-based combo deck that would be good if one would work.
Budget isn't a concern.
You might want to try Burn. I personally think Affinity is favourable against it, but the Affinity primer says otherwise. Burn is definitely favoured vs Scapeshift and BGx.
If you're trying to beat Affinity, your options are Burn, UWR, and Twin. UWR is going to have a solid Scapeshift matchup and a so-so BGx (it's probably a 50-50 since I think Junk lists are worse against UWR than straight BG Rock lists are). Twin is going to have a good Affinity matchup and probably a 50-50 Scapeshift, maybe slightly favoured in the Scapeshift matchup, but definitely unfavoured against BGx. Tron is closer to even against Affinity, and great against BGx, but mediocre against Scapeshift (since they have very little to stop the combo or interact with it).
In general, blue-based combo is bad against BGx because of Thoughtseize and Inquisition.
UWR is nowhere near even with BGx, imo. It has very few ways to interact with their best cards (i.e. Liliana and Rhino) and is at a very real risk of being outgrinded.
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Definitely something like this. If you've already got old Pod Staples, it won't be too much to pick up the rest of it.
URW Control
WBG Abzan
GRW Burn
EDH
GR Rosheen Meanderer
I have settled on either playing G/R Tron or Grixis Delver for the foreseeable future. I would like to have both, but current budget won't allow it.
I like Tron for its inevitable late game with a good control and jund/junk matchup; but fear its issues with infect/burn/fast aggro and combo (particularly twin). I guess I could slowly pickup the cards for U/W Tron for some variability and improved matchups if G/R is unfavored.
I like Delver for its versatility and generally 50/50 matchups; but for it I worry about G/R tron, podless pod, and b/w tokens.
I really don't know my local meta, but it would be safe to assume it would be a competitive reflection of the national scene. I am very comfortable with both types of strategies.
What I am particularly looking for is a competitive deck that will serve me well over time. What are your recommendations?
If you do recommend tron, should I wait for MM15 to pick up the karns, emrakul, and hopefully a spellskite reprint?
Thank you all for your time and consideration.
If you pick up Tron, your only option is Tron. The deck doesn't particularly share cards well. Blue-Tron variants don't play Karns and only play one or two Wurmcoils. Mono blue doesn't even play Emrakul. Delver plays a lot of cards for other decks in that it plays shocks and fetches, Snapcasters, some counters, some removal. I think moving between Delver and another deck is easier.
I'm not sure how good I think Grixis Delver is right now, Delver has just not been good in a long time, and it's relatively early to tell if it's going to stay. RG Tron, on the other hand, has been a mediocre deck for the past few months as it fell out of favour. The bad Twin matchup doesn't compensate for the good BGx matchup.
I'll sell UW Tron to anyone who's interested :). There's a link to the primer in my sig, feel free to come and take a look and see if you like it. Most of our bad matchups aren't popular (like RG Tron) so it makes it a lot easier for us.
EDIT: If you want to get into Tron, I do recommend waiting for Karns.
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As far as bang for the buck goes, it's hard to beat Burn. Nice and competitive on both the FNM and bigger event level. That being said, it's not that interactive. If your meta is heavy aggressive, I would not recommend GR Tron. If you want a non-twin competitive combo, maybe infect? It's somewhat interactive, and is a solid deck. When Noble Hiarchs are reprinted the price of it should drop a lot.
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U Merfolk
Pauper
U Mono U Delver
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Grixis Death's Shadow, Jund, UW Tron, Jeskai Control, Storm, Counters Company, Eldrazi Tron, Affinity, Living End, Infect, Merfolk, Dredge, Ad Nauseam, Amulet, Bogles, Eldrazi Tron, Mono U Tron, Lantern, Mardu Pyromancer
Yeah but the new podless deck with collected company wouldn't be a good matchup, right? There is a couple of those in my local store. Anyway, it is the kind of deck I'm looking for.
I'd go as far as to recommend Affinity. It's fast, well positioned, it's not exactly combo, but it has a lot of synergy. Most people tend to think Affinity just drops their hand turn 1, but there's actually a lot of decision making in Affinity. Affinity only has a few spots in the main board that are flexible, but the side-board is extremely flexible due to being able to run 5 colors. The deck is right around your budget, but price varies depending on how you build your SB for your meta.
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Affinity is another good choice, but keep in mind, people WILL hate it out a lot. Also, I would wait until MM2 to pick it up.
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U Merfolk
Pauper
U Mono U Delver
Ancestral Visions is freed
These are the decks that I was considering in 2 weeks.
1. Twin - Maybe I should just play the best deck. Twin is the deck that a Spike like myself should play. I can win a lot, which helps my confidence in play, and would get me a lot of store credit.
2. Abzan Liege - I was considering playing this deck. It's pretty powerful and a good part is that it beats Junk Midrange, of which several of our best Modern players play Junk.
3. Abzan Collected Company (or Ghostway) - This would be a fun deck, but the sad part is that even if I combo and get infinite life, Twin still kills me by doing exactly that much damage. It would be a pretty fun deck though. (But I have played many "fun" decks the past months and am probably ready for a Spike deck.)
What would you suggest? I'm getting pretty bored of Bogles. While it's sweet to have a deck that people are not prepared for, it's also nice to have a deck with many more game play choices that can affect the win/loss ratio.
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Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander -
Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build)(dead format for me)If you just intend on taking it to your LGS, what decks are well positioned there? If you think you can win a lot with it, like it sounds like, then it seems like Twin would be the best choice. I wouldn't recommend Ghostway, as its been pretty much obsoleted by Collected Merila.
I dunno how the matchup is against those decks, but UWR control is currently the top ranked control deck, and has been for a while. Alternately,there's esper control, which is an up and coming deck.
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U Merfolk
Pauper
U Mono U Delver
Ancestral Visions is freed
1 Junk Liege
3 Junk Midrange
2 UR Twin
1 Storm
1 Mono Green Devotion
1-2 Burn
2 UW Tron
1 GR Tron
1 -2 Affinity
1-2 Delver
5 rogue decks, consisting of Mono Black, GR Land D, Mill, Discard, random Combo decks
1 Grixis Reanimator
1 Mono Black Snow
It's a pretty mixed bag. Scapeshift used to be played, but it got "hated" out a bit by Mill and just numerous SB options. Affinity also used to be a good 15% as well, but most of the players don't play here anymore. I actually don't know if Collected Abzan would do well. It just seems fun and I would probably audible to a better deck come "Competitive REL time." But it many ways, I want to have more experience with Twin, the best deck, so that I can play as optimally as possible.
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Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander -
Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build)(dead format for me)Yeah twin looks like a good bet there I'd say.
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UBR Grixis Control
U Merfolk
Pauper
U Mono U Delver
Ancestral Visions is freed
You could play UWR control, but it's pretty bad atm. Twin plays mostly on its opponent's turn and a lot of people see it as Modern's control deck.
URW Control
WBG Abzan
GRW Burn
EDH
GR Rosheen Meanderer
PS. Serum Visions is not good enough for control. UR Twin plays it only because they're a combo deck and can afford to play a lesser card because they have disparity among cards (aka at certain points, combo cards have much higher value than other cards). UWR Control tends to want to value raw card advantage over card selection, making Serum Visions mediocre.
Grixis Death's Shadow, Jund, UW Tron, Jeskai Control, Storm, Counters Company, Eldrazi Tron, Affinity, Living End, Infect, Merfolk, Dredge, Ad Nauseam, Amulet, Bogles, Eldrazi Tron, Mono U Tron, Lantern, Mardu Pyromancer
If you want to try playing Twin with an extra wincon, try Grixis Twin. It gives you access to Black for stuff like Terminate, hand disruption and most importantly, Tasigur.
URW Control
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GRW Burn
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I don't think straight UW Control is better than UWR Control, and I know the more popular UWR lists right now are UWR Midrange. UWR Control is really heavily underplayed right now because the deck just isn't that good. The problem is that the deck needs to consistently hit land drops while consistently removing creatures. It makes you have to draw extremely well to do well with the deck. You don't have enough options for raw card draw or card selection. I loved playing Think Twice in UWR, but the problem was that Think Twice was too slow and didn't interact with the board. So while I was getting the card advantage I needed, I wasn't interacting with creatures and then getting run over.
If you're open to other sorts of UW Control decks, UW Tron is gaining a lot of popularity right now. There's a link to the primer in my signature.
Grixis Death's Shadow, Jund, UW Tron, Jeskai Control, Storm, Counters Company, Eldrazi Tron, Affinity, Living End, Infect, Merfolk, Dredge, Ad Nauseam, Amulet, Bogles, Eldrazi Tron, Mono U Tron, Lantern, Mardu Pyromancer
Isn't Ghost Quarter more useful against Tron? I feel like taking out their 5th land isn't very important. Seems like Ghost Quartering one of the Tron lands, then paying 2 life to use Surgical Extraction on it is a pretty good disruption plan out of the board.
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The early removal is really important given that the format has Burn, Affinity, Infect, Wilted-Abzan, and Merfolk in the top 10 most played decks. Each of them really want early removal for creatures. If you're not doing that, you absolutely need to Wrath on 4, and I don't think UW Control plays enough to do stuff like that. It tends to play cards like Sphinx's Rev and Think Twice, which I both think are really bad in this format.
UWR Control plays 2-3 Tec Edges most of the time. With UW Control, you get what, a couple of Calciform Pools? How is that going to save you from losing to Choke? It's still going to be quite bad, I would think. Blood Moon won't be as bad, you're right, but you can certainly still play around it as UWR Control by fetching up basics.
At the end of the day, if you want to just play UW Control, then play it and call it a day. You seem dead set on playing it, and I don't think any amount of me saying otherwise is going to convince you.
Grixis Death's Shadow, Jund, UW Tron, Jeskai Control, Storm, Counters Company, Eldrazi Tron, Affinity, Living End, Infect, Merfolk, Dredge, Ad Nauseam, Amulet, Bogles, Eldrazi Tron, Mono U Tron, Lantern, Mardu Pyromancer
Budget isn't a concern.
UW Tron doesn't have fast removal outside Path either, but it has other options to deal with aggressive decks. Playing Gifts gives you access to Gifts combo, so you can have turn 3 or 4 Elesh Norns, which decks like Affinity and Infect tend to scoop to. You can also play a triple Wrath package so you can now have Gifts find a board clear, or sometimes just turn 3 Wrath from a Signet. I'm not saying it's better than UWR, but it's a lot better than UW.
The thing about the red splash is that control really loves Electrolyze. In fact, if what you want to do is not lose to Affinity, Electrolyze is insane. It's often a 3-for-1 in that matchup.
Grixis Death's Shadow, Jund, UW Tron, Jeskai Control, Storm, Counters Company, Eldrazi Tron, Affinity, Living End, Infect, Merfolk, Dredge, Ad Nauseam, Amulet, Bogles, Eldrazi Tron, Mono U Tron, Lantern, Mardu Pyromancer
If you're trying to beat Affinity, your options are Burn, UWR, and Twin. UWR is going to have a solid Scapeshift matchup and a so-so BGx (it's probably a 50-50 since I think Junk lists are worse against UWR than straight BG Rock lists are). Twin is going to have a good Affinity matchup and probably a 50-50 Scapeshift, maybe slightly favoured in the Scapeshift matchup, but definitely unfavoured against BGx. Tron is closer to even against Affinity, and great against BGx, but mediocre against Scapeshift (since they have very little to stop the combo or interact with it).
In general, blue-based combo is bad against BGx because of Thoughtseize and Inquisition.
Grixis Death's Shadow, Jund, UW Tron, Jeskai Control, Storm, Counters Company, Eldrazi Tron, Affinity, Living End, Infect, Merfolk, Dredge, Ad Nauseam, Amulet, Bogles, Eldrazi Tron, Mono U Tron, Lantern, Mardu Pyromancer
URW Control
WBG Abzan
GRW Burn
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