Graveyard hate is incredibly powerful in modern; almost all decks benefit from the graveyard in one way or another.
I was thinking that a deck that could benefit from empty graveyards/cards in exile to the point where it could mainboard Rest in Peace could potentially be pretty strong. As I understand it, Rest in Peace does not actually stop the Edrazi Processor ability (move from exile to graveyard), but actualy makes you put cards from exile into exile oddly enough. There could be something good there.
What other cards that ar modern legal would benefit from a Rest in Peace on the battlefield?
I just checked the gatherer with the keyword "exiled" to see what may interact with "exiled" cards.
Almost all cards interacting with the exile zone cause cards to go to that zone. An easy example is Karn Liberated or Voyager Staff.
Since most BfZ cards did not appear, I also tried with "from exile". The only 2 cards that stand out are torrent elemental and misthollow griffin. It seems nothing interacts with exiled cards in modern.
They do not directly have to interact with exile, only benefit from it. An example would be Ulamog's Nullifier, but as Mystic Snake doesn't see any play, I doubt a situational one would be worth it. There's also Void Attendant, Blight Herder, and Wasteland Herder that kind of catch my eye, but none of the BFZ eldrazi are really worth it.
In Legacy you of course have Helm of Obedience, which is a combo kill with RIP, but that isn't modern legal obviously. It's difficult to search for cards that benefit from RIP as there isn't really a good keyword to look for. Something like a reverse-Boneyard Wurm (very strong creature that gets weaker for each card in graveyards) or reverse Pyromancer's Ascension (benefit if there aren't any cards with the same name as a being cast spell in the graveyard). There's plenty of ways to go with this, but I don't know cards that actually used that design space
I actually dug around some time back since I was curious to see if a Helm of Obedience type of card managed to make it into the Modern legal cardpool, since HelmRIP is all kinds of cool.
All that came of it was some fixed version of Helm printed in Mirrodin block.
So yeah, sorry to break it to you but unless something incredibly boneheaded happens in Oath, then it prolly ain't happening for a loooong while.
Well ok there's the Back to Innistrad block and maybe this time we'll get degenerate graveyard nonsense that extends to the exile zone...
I think the better option is the play main board Relic of Progenitus like RG Tron used to. At least it cycles itself. It has to be in the right shell, but some deck's can't beat main board Relic.
I tried out UW processor control and esper processor control based on this interaction. Generally RIP is awesome for the one instance where it hoses someone and it wins against gy decks. But a deck built around it isn't super powerful because the loss of tempo from playing rip against decks that aren't hosed by it is pretty brutal. I think if processors can be a deck it is probably w/ relic. At least for now. I hope a rip based deck can be built evrntually though.
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I actually dug around some time back since I was curious to see if a Helm of Obedience type of card managed to make it into the Modern legal cardpool, since HelmRIP is all kinds of cool.
All that came of it was some fixed version of Helm printed in Mirrodin block.
So yeah, sorry to break it to you but unless something incredibly boneheaded happens in Oath, then it prolly ain't happening for a loooong while.
Well ok there's the Back to Innistrad block and maybe this time we'll get degenerate graveyard nonsense that extends to the exile zone...
Thank you. This was my first thought when I read this thread. I'm glad that somebody did the homework for me.
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Screwing all kinds of goyfs and knight combo and other various things such as snapcaster mage makes me think it's probably worth running main as a 2 or 3 of. For any other reasons, meh. of course, those are an awful lot of good reasons, though!
I actually played against a mono-B processor deck on MTGO (I was on UW Titan control) and it beat me. It was actually very hard to play against because it ramped fairly quickly and played like a midrange deck. After playing against that deck seeing this deck my brewing juices definitely got flowing.
I think RIP is the correct idea, but very narrow. The processors are just say exile, so any way to get cards there works.
Anyway, there are tons of cards in modern that can make those processors very interesting. The bigger question that I was struggling with is there anything useful to do those processors.
Blight Herder is a very strong card. 5cmc for a 4/5 with 3 other bodies? Very similar to Pia and Kiran Nalaar which has started to see play in modern. That can ramp into other scary things. Mix with Eye of Ugin and things can move quite quickly.
It still seems very fuzzy, and on the surface might appear slow/weak, but in a GBx shell might be very good.
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The coolest card that I know is Phyrexian Etchings. You can keep paying the B cost and drawing cards until you don't want to anymore. Then just let the etchings die and since it never hits the yard thanks to RIP you never lose any life!
Blight herder, oblivion sower, and wasteland strangler are all cards that benefit from exile effects. In fact they're all in a BR eldrazi deck that runs relic of progenitus and nihil spellbomb main.
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I was thinking that a deck that could benefit from empty graveyards/cards in exile to the point where it could mainboard Rest in Peace could potentially be pretty strong. As I understand it, Rest in Peace does not actually stop the Edrazi Processor ability (move from exile to graveyard), but actualy makes you put cards from exile into exile oddly enough. There could be something good there.
What other cards that ar modern legal would benefit from a Rest in Peace on the battlefield?
Almost all cards interacting with the exile zone cause cards to go to that zone. An easy example is Karn Liberated or Voyager Staff.
Since most BfZ cards did not appear, I also tried with "from exile". The only 2 cards that stand out are torrent elemental and misthollow griffin. It seems nothing interacts with exiled cards in modern.
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In Legacy you of course have Helm of Obedience, which is a combo kill with RIP, but that isn't modern legal obviously. It's difficult to search for cards that benefit from RIP as there isn't really a good keyword to look for. Something like a reverse-Boneyard Wurm (very strong creature that gets weaker for each card in graveyards) or reverse Pyromancer's Ascension (benefit if there aren't any cards with the same name as a being cast spell in the graveyard). There's plenty of ways to go with this, but I don't know cards that actually used that design space
All that came of it was some fixed version of Helm printed in Mirrodin block.
So yeah, sorry to break it to you but unless something incredibly boneheaded happens in Oath, then it prolly ain't happening for a loooong while.
Well ok there's the Back to Innistrad block and maybe this time we'll get degenerate graveyard nonsense that extends to the exile zone...
RG 8-Whack
BWG Abzan midrange
GRB Living End
UWB Spirit Control
GU Kruphix's "Hug Assassin"
RW Kalemne's "Play Fatties and Hope for the Best!"
BUGW Atraxa's "All counters, all the time"
Thank you. This was my first thought when I read this thread. I'm glad that somebody did the homework for me.
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Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
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I think RIP is the correct idea, but very narrow. The processors are just say exile, so any way to get cards there works.
Here is a short list of cards that can turn on processors (besides cards with ingest):
Path to Exile
Flickerwisp
Detention Sphere / Oblivion Ring
Surgical Extraction
Scavenging Ooze
Crumble to Dust
Crypt Excursion
Anyway, there are tons of cards in modern that can make those processors very interesting. The bigger question that I was struggling with is there anything useful to do those processors.
Blight Herder is a very strong card. 5cmc for a 4/5 with 3 other bodies? Very similar to Pia and Kiran Nalaar which has started to see play in modern. That can ramp into other scary things. Mix with Eye of Ugin and things can move quite quickly.
It still seems very fuzzy, and on the surface might appear slow/weak, but in a GBx shell might be very good.
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