MTG Salvation

I meant it hasn't rotated out of standard yet. And people are complaining about cards that aren't playable in modern with this set. If it's playable in standard it's playable in modern

OH LOOK.

IT'S HERITAGE DRUID.

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Overall vintage and legacy are 100% casual play. When's the last time your local game store offered an fnm with either of those formats? Probably never. What I'm actually curious about is to why people are crying over paying $10 a pack for premium quality cards in general and they are upset when they open that damn turtle everyone is complaining about. I see a great use for it and plan on actually playing it. What I don't see a use for is people complaining about there not being many if any at all modern playables. First of all wizards came out and said this will be vintage and legacy cards with some commander stuff thrown in. Second of all the entire set hasn't been spoiled yet. There's still almost 200 cards left in the set. There's bound to be a couple cards that are modern playable. An example that I've seen so far is shaman of the pack. That's actually standard playable right now because origins hasn't rotated out to modern yet. If everyone recalls it was printed as an uncommon there as well. I pulled 3 between the box and 2 fat packs I bought and play it in my modern elves. It's very modern playable and elves have some fun mechanics to play with. That card is great if you're playing them. So people complaining about these cards not being modern playable is laughable to me.

The entire problem right now is that eternal masters is being marketed as premium when the only reason the prices are high are due to lack of decent card supply. They aren't expensive because of being a competitive tournament format of the likes of modern, where cards can spike instantly by 1000% mark up. Most people who play legacy type decks are doing so casually or at unofficial tournaments at local game stores.

Wizards has a problem where they have allowed playable cards stay out of print so long that the price has now raged out of control. I'm just hoping they drop the price of the cards somehow instead of this constant playing it safe routine that is only serving to make people steadily start leaving the game, especially legacy and vintage. It really isn't worth playing if the game ends up costing thousands of dollars just to own the cards that matter.

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Full spoiler is up.

Cards that are NOTICEABLY missing: Rishadan Port, Show and tell (they print half of the combo wtf), Nettle Sentinel, delver of secrets, Mirri's Guile, demonic tutor, imperial recruiter, blood moon, mana drain, Chalice of the void, and trinisphere

On the plus side, more opportunities to get Kird Apes in modern black border.

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Full spoiler is up.

Cards that are NOTICEABLY missing: Rishadan Port, Show and tell (they print half of the combo wtf), Nettle Sentinel, delver of secrets, Mirri's Guile, demonic tutor, imperial recruiter, blood moon, mana drain, Chalice of the void, and trinisphere

Don't forget Damnation and Æther Vial!

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Full spoiler is up.

Cards that are NOTICEABLY missing: Rishadan Port, Show and tell (they print half of the combo wtf), Nettle Sentinel, delver of secrets, Mirri's Guile, demonic tutor, imperial recruiter, blood moon, mana drain, Chalice of the void, and trinisphere

Don't forget Damnation and Æther Vial!

I left them out on purpose. Clearly wizards wants modern cards to be in modern masters. I didn't expect them to be printed for that reason.

Cards modern got reprinted that are worth discussing:

young pyromancer, zealous persecution, Wall of omens, rancor, relic of progenitus and heritage druid

My local store has a legacy event on next Saturday.

It's not going to be a bunch of casuals, I can assure you of that.

In my area commander is more of the casual format.

Oh good Wall of Omens is getting reprinted at an Uncommon too. That'll drop it down to 2 dollars or so I hope.

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Oh good Wall of Omens is getting reprinted at an Uncommon too. That'll drop it down to 2 dollars or so I hope.

Yeah, this was a really nice reprint to see.

Another underrated reprint? Those Young Pyromancer tokens - they've become exceedingly difficult to find.

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Oh good Wall of Omens is getting reprinted at an Uncommon too. That'll drop it down to 2 dollars or so I hope.

Yeah, this was a really nice reprint to see.

Another underrated reprint? Those Young Pyromancer tokens - they've become exceedingly difficult to find.

While I just resorted to making my own Elemental Tokens, hopefully foil YP's drop in price.

Relevant cards for Modern
Intangible Virtue: BW Tokens
Raise the Alarm: some Tokens builds
*Squadron Hawk: Martyr Proc, Soul Sisters
Wall of Omens: Mostly Kiki Chord, UWR Kiki plays it too but that deck has been overshadowed by Nahiri
Wrath of God: control decks
Duress: SB card
Night's Whisper: Grishoalbrand
Twisted Abomination: Living End
Desperate Ravings: Storm
Faithless Looting: Grishoalbrand, Dredge
Kird Ape: Bushwhacker Zoo
Young Pyromancer: Delver
Flinthoof Boar: some Bushwhacker Zoo builds
Heritage Druid: Elves
Llanowar Elves: Elves
Nature's Claim: SB card
Rancor: Infect, Bogles
Shaman of the Pack: Elves
Zealous Persecution: BW Tokens, some Abzan SBs
Relic of Progenitus: SB card

Fringe cards
Blood Artist: Aristocrats
Flame Jab: Assault Loam
*Mogg War Marshal: Goblins
*Goblin Charbelcher: 7-land Belcher
Pilgrim's Eye: Sun Titan/Emeria control

* = new art (note: Squadron Hawk's art is not actually "new", but right now only the FNM promo Hawk has that art)

Still no Damnation :|

In case the name of the set didn't already tip you off, this isn't a set full of Modern staples. The Modern-playable cards are mostly cheap commons/uncommons, other than Wrath of God and Heritage Druid (HOLY ***** THAT THING IS AN UNCOMMON). Buy it for Legacy or drafting, not for Modern.

(P.S. I didn't write "buy it for Vintage", because no Vintage player likes new borders )

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(P.S. I didn't write "buy it for Vintage", because no Vintage player likes new borders )

Does it count if I can tolerate the new borders?

Hmm.. so no Chalice of the Void reprint... oh well, will just wait for it on the next Modern Master.

Liking the new art for Trygon Predator and Mother of Runes.
Glad that Rancor is in there, already pre-ordered at Starcity Games.

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Hmm.. so no Chalice of the Void reprint... oh well, will just wait for it on the next Modern Master.

Liking the new art for Trygon Predator and Mother of Runes.
Glad that Rancor is in there, already pre-ordered at Starcity Games.

Both of those arts aren't new. Trygon is from modern masters and Mom is from the duel deck.

@Equinox2793

Ah, didn't know that. Thanks for the correction. >.<