favourite includes for me - Taking Turns (hilarious), Mill (unexpected), Eldrazi (good to see the deck existing without being a problem), Tron (a nostalgic favourite of mine even when it's unplayable) and Merfolk (always happy to see this deck do well)
Calling Tron "unplayable" is some combination of misleading, inaccurate, and/or disingenuous, at least if you are referring to RG Tron with regard to Eye's banning. RG Tron is totally viable.
Mono U Tron ties it up 1-1 off of a Chalice at one and a Chalice at two.
favourite includes for me - Taking Turns (hilarious), Mill (unexpected), Eldrazi (good to see the deck existing without being a problem), Tron (a nostalgic favourite of mine even when it's unplayable) and Merfolk (always happy to see this deck do well)
Calling Tron "unplayable" is some combination of misleading, inaccurate, and/or disingenuous, at least if you are referring to RG Tron with regard to Eye's banning. RG Tron is totally viable.
Mono U Tron ties it up 1-1 off of a Chalice at one and a Chalice at two.
apologies if you mistook my meaning; i meant in the fullness of time since modern began, there have been clear distinct times when RG Tron was essentially unplayable at larger events, before swinging back to viable after a couple of months out of the limelight. I can distinctly remember a singularly long period of time (maybe up to a whole year) when some of the spikier members of my playgroup would scoff or laugh when I said I was tweaking or running Tron at PTQs or whatever. as far as they were concerned, it was tier 3 jank. then like clockwork it came back around and worked its way up to tier 1 for a few weeks, before ebbing away again.
i wasn't talking about Tron being unplayable right now. clearly it's doing just fine - i'm a big fan of your metagame analyses on the Nexus and am well aware of the current positioning of the deck.
I'm extremely interested in seeing the UB mill deck's list. UB mill was my first modern deck, I know it typically isn't thought of as a competitive deck, but I've always had a soft spot for mill ever since I started playing Magic.
I find this highly ironic coming from the primary defender of the Eldrazi deck pre-ban.
first, I was just playing devil's advocate (and i said as much, very clearly). i love the meta right now, and i love aggro decks. Modern is in a brilliant place and i'm loving it from top to bottom.
second, I wasn't a "defender of the eldrazi deck"... I was however, a big critic of the absolutely insane ban-mania which occurred less than a week after the deck first appeared at a single isolated tournament. at the time, regardless of whether it was eventually proven to be a problematic deck, the community response was nothing short of herd-mentality idiotic panic.
after the deck continued to be an issue, I very plainly and clearly went on record saying that continued metagame dominance was unhealthy and something needed doing. at no point was I blindly rallying behind the deck without a logical foundation to my comments. it's certainly not an angle you can use to try to degrade anything i'm currently saying.
in fact, looking back at what you've written, I think you just misread my comment, or the detail, or maybe the intent. either way you've based your response on a subtle misunderstanding, so I vote we drop it and move back to the topic at hand, which is what an amazing day-2 metagame we have right now!
favourite includes for me - Taking Turns (hilarious), Mill (unexpected), Eldrazi (good to see the deck existing without being a problem), Tron (a nostalgic favourite of mine even when it's unplayable) and Merfolk (always happy to see this deck do well)
My apologies. I assumed your "devil's advocate" phrase only applied to the sentence it was in and the new paragraph indicated a new thought.
I'm extremely interested in seeing the UB mill deck's list. UB mill was my first modern deck, I know it typically isn't thought of as a competitive deck, but I've always had a soft spot for mill ever since I started playing Magic.
They showed the list during Round 9 of coverage yesterday. For the most part it was the list that has been winning Leagues on MTGO, maybe different by a card or two.
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Is it my imagination or is Affinity doing better than expected with Jeskai's rise?
Dunno if I would call three Day 2 copies "on the rise" (and only 1 at SCG CHAR). Plus, with Thopter/Sword completely non-existent, people probably cut back their over-zealous artifact hate from the past few weeks. It was gross watching Blue Tron beat up on Affinity with Chalice tho.
Thopter combo straight up sucks, played against it a ton on MTGO, it looked awful against my Jund deck, it looked awful against my RG Valakut, and it looked awful against Jeskai Flash. The deck needs to be put into a better shell, as they are right now, they're bad
So, how many times did Paulo Cua punt game 2 against Chapin? He went down to 1 life and took his sweet time with the clock ticking down hoping for a draw
So, how many times did Paulo Cua punt game 2 against Chapin? He went down to 1 life and took his sweet time with the clock ticking down hoping for a draw
He also let that token eat that terminate instead of redircting with Spellskite.
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So, how many times did Paulo Cua punt game 2 against Chapin? He went down to 1 life and took his sweet time with the clock ticking down hoping for a draw
He also let that token eat that terminate instead of redircting with Spellskite.
don't know about you but if patrick sat down opposite me at a tournament table, i'd probably feel more than a little nervous. who knows, maybe that's just me. =P
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Modern: G Tron, Vannifar, Jund, Druid/Vizier combo, Humans, Eldrazi Stompy (Serum Powder), Amulet, Grishoalbrand, Breach Titan, Turns, Eternal Command, As Foretold Living End, Elves, Cheerios, RUG Scapeshift
Tuning in to a sweet Blue Moon vs. Abzan Company match. Just learned that Blue Moon won the first match after Company got 1 billion life. Rietzl, on Moon, just answered all Company's threats en route to milling out the Abzan player.
Mistakes happen when this many games happen, you get fatigued, plus nerves against playing a big name player
Poor Jund, Bant Eldrazi just looks too good against it, turn 2 Thought-Knots and Drowners of Hope is brutal. The Bant Eldrazi deck looks so clean and redundant
Aso, how awful is this commentary? I prefer watching Finkel play, him and Sutcliff are sooooooooo boring. They talk in monotone voices, no interesting banter, no excitement, Sutcliff sometimes sounds like he doesn't even play the game or understand it, and there's no interesting views.
LSV is good, but Gabby Spartz is awful, she just sounds like a little girl idolizing her father, and she just tosses softball questions and scenario's to LSV. I wish Cedric and Sullivan could do all the commentary
Tuning in to a sweet Blue Moon vs. Abzan Company match. Just learned that Blue Moon won the first match after Company got 1 billion life. Rietzl, on Moon, just answered all Company's threats en route to milling out the Abzan player.
Interesting. Thought Blue Moon would draw more cards during a game. No AV?
LSV is good, but Gabby Spartz is awful, she just sounds like a little girl idolizing her father, and she just tosses softball questions and scenario's to LSV. I wish Cedric and Sullivan could do all the commentary
Positive: women being more visible in Magic. It can be offputting for segments of the community to have so many adult white males in coverage roles. Also, newer and younger blood in coverage is good for long-term Magic growth.
Negative: she doesn't really know Modern. She knows it more than, say, the average Reddit user, but she can't provide the kind of expert insight I'd want to see from commentators. She's also made some pretty odd analyses of board states and deck choices.
I think the positives outweigh the negatives, but I'd like to see the negatives improve.
Unrelated - Affinity at 10% of LA and the top deck at GP Charlotte is very surprising to me. I guess people shipped away too much SB hate.
Mistakes happen when this many games happen, you get fatigued, plus nerves against playing a big name player
Poor Jund, Bant Eldrazi just looks too good against it, turn 2 Thought-Knots and Drowners of Hope is brutal. The Bant Eldrazi deck looks so clean and redundant
Aso, how awful is this commentary? I prefer watching Finkel play, him and Sutcliff are sooooooooo boring. They talk in monotone voices, no interesting banter, no excitement, Sutcliff sometimes sounds like he doesn't even play the game or understand it, and there's no interesting views.
LSV is good, but Gabby Spartz is awful, she just sounds like a little girl idolizing her father, and she just tosses softball questions and scenario's to LSV. I wish Cedric and Sullivan could do all the commentary
I agree that women being visible in a game filled with nerdy men is nice, but it still doesn't mean she gets the thumbs up from me, just because of her being a female. I'm being less sexist saying I don't think she's very good as a commentator than saying, "she's a girl! It's great! it's fine!" I'm glad it puts a face on women getting into a game filled with guys, and it makes it more accessible---but I guess as a serious player, I wish I saw better insight from experienced commentators/players
She needs to work on learning modern better, maybe giving better insight into modern, not just clinging to every word LSV says. I'm not trying to be rude, but in these Keep or Mulls, I could care less what she thinks, I don't think she's a good player from what I've heard.
I'm not shocked about Affinity, I know I personally hedged Affinity hate a little, Jund players are cutting a 2nd K-Command for Pulse, some cutting sideboard hate. People are focused on hating out Rg Tron, Company and Nahiri. Affinity is always best when forgotten. Not shocked Nahiri decks have been quiet, I think picking a deck that had that much attention is a terrible meta-call
GP LA Day 2, all numbers in %s
Abzan Company 13
Affinity 10
Merfolk 8
Naya Burn 8
Infect 6
Jund 6
Jeskai w/ Nahiri 5
Grixis 4
RG Tron 4
Elves 3
Abzan 2
Bant Eldrazi 2
4C Scapeshift 2
GW Hatebears 2
The top deck by % here is Abzan Company. In Charlotte* it's Affinity. HUGE contrast from SCG Indianapolis, where there were 0 Abzan Company and 2 Affinity decks. That should teach you NOT to take a single event as an indicator that deck X sucks in the format now.
Calling Tron "unplayable" is some combination of misleading, inaccurate, and/or disingenuous, at least if you are referring to RG Tron with regard to Eye's banning. RG Tron is totally viable.
Mono U Tron ties it up 1-1 off of a Chalice at one and a Chalice at two.
apologies if you mistook my meaning; i meant in the fullness of time since modern began, there have been clear distinct times when RG Tron was essentially unplayable at larger events, before swinging back to viable after a couple of months out of the limelight. I can distinctly remember a singularly long period of time (maybe up to a whole year) when some of the spikier members of my playgroup would scoff or laugh when I said I was tweaking or running Tron at PTQs or whatever. as far as they were concerned, it was tier 3 jank. then like clockwork it came back around and worked its way up to tier 1 for a few weeks, before ebbing away again.
i wasn't talking about Tron being unplayable right now. clearly it's doing just fine - i'm a big fan of your metagame analyses on the Nexus and am well aware of the current positioning of the deck.
amazing
Standard: lol no
Modern: BG/x, UR/x, Burn, Merfolk, Zoo, Storm
Legacy: Shardless BUG, Delver (BUG, RUG, Grixis), Landstill, Depths Combo, Merfolk
Vintage: Dark Times, BUG Fish, Merfolk
EDH: Teysa, Orzhov Scion / Krenko, Mob Boss / Stonebrow, Krosan Hero
They showed the list during Round 9 of coverage yesterday. For the most part it was the list that has been winning Leagues on MTGO, maybe different by a card or two.
UR ....... WUBR ........... WB ............. RGW ........ UBR ....... WUB .... BGU
Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
- GP LA:
Andrew Brown is 8-2.
Nick Lee is 6-4.
Unknow number of other players.
- GP Charlotte:
Jonathan Benson is 8-3.
There should be two more players.
Anymore players that you guys would know?
Cheers!
Aggro: Naya Burn RWG
Combo: Scapeshift RG
Control: Jeskai Control UWR
Legacy
Control: Miracles UW
Aggro: Burn R
The dream is dead but at least we'll get an article out of it
P.S. Charlotte Day 2 top 100 is out
http://magic.wizards.com/en/events/coverage/gpcha16/day-2-metagame-breakdown-2016-05-22
Top deck = Affinity
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He also let that token eat that terminate instead of redircting with Spellskite.
David Ochoa: "Mono-bacon!..."
don't know about you but if patrick sat down opposite me at a tournament table, i'd probably feel more than a little nervous. who knows, maybe that's just me. =P
David Ochoa: "Mono-bacon!..."
not sure i'd play it myself (currently back on the competitive scapeshift train), but it's a cool deck no doubt.
Poor Jund, Bant Eldrazi just looks too good against it, turn 2 Thought-Knots and Drowners of Hope is brutal. The Bant Eldrazi deck looks so clean and redundant
Aso, how awful is this commentary? I prefer watching Finkel play, him and Sutcliff are sooooooooo boring. They talk in monotone voices, no interesting banter, no excitement, Sutcliff sometimes sounds like he doesn't even play the game or understand it, and there's no interesting views.
LSV is good, but Gabby Spartz is awful, she just sounds like a little girl idolizing her father, and she just tosses softball questions and scenario's to LSV. I wish Cedric and Sullivan could do all the commentary
Interesting. Thought Blue Moon would draw more cards during a game. No AV?
DECKS:
UB Faeries [Midrange/Tempo]
RWUGB Affinity[Aggro]
FAERIES TOO STRONK!!!1111
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5678Positive: women being more visible in Magic. It can be offputting for segments of the community to have so many adult white males in coverage roles. Also, newer and younger blood in coverage is good for long-term Magic growth.
Negative: she doesn't really know Modern. She knows it more than, say, the average Reddit user, but she can't provide the kind of expert insight I'd want to see from commentators. She's also made some pretty odd analyses of board states and deck choices.
I think the positives outweigh the negatives, but I'd like to see the negatives improve.
Unrelated - Affinity at 10% of LA and the top deck at GP Charlotte is very surprising to me. I guess people shipped away too much SB hate.
What does Finkel have to do with anything?
She needs to work on learning modern better, maybe giving better insight into modern, not just clinging to every word LSV says. I'm not trying to be rude, but in these Keep or Mulls, I could care less what she thinks, I don't think she's a good player from what I've heard.
I'm not shocked about Affinity, I know I personally hedged Affinity hate a little, Jund players are cutting a 2nd K-Command for Pulse, some cutting sideboard hate. People are focused on hating out Rg Tron, Company and Nahiri. Affinity is always best when forgotten. Not shocked Nahiri decks have been quiet, I think picking a deck that had that much attention is a terrible meta-call
Abzan Company 13
Affinity 10
Merfolk 8
Naya Burn 8
Infect 6
Jund 6
Jeskai w/ Nahiri 5
Grixis 4
RG Tron 4
Elves 3
Abzan 2
Bant Eldrazi 2
4C Scapeshift 2
GW Hatebears 2
The top deck by % here is Abzan Company. In Charlotte* it's Affinity. HUGE contrast from SCG Indianapolis, where there were 0 Abzan Company and 2 Affinity decks. That should teach you NOT to take a single event as an indicator that deck X sucks in the format now.
*top 100
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Big Johnny.