Discard spells are (broadly) very good vs countermagic; if you want a blue card that interacts favorably against discard, to my knowledge their are 2: brainstorm, and mental misstep. Daze is ok if you can play enough 1-drops. It would be extraordinarily difficult to introduce cards into modern that interact with turn 1 discard without also breaking the format.
"Death Shadow Jund" is not "Death Shadow Aggro" at all!!! Aggro decks kill as fast as possible by landing a lot of threats quickly. Disruption is minimal and only when necessary. "Death Shadow Jund" plays many discard spells. Like RUG delver in legacy, it lands one threat and protects it with disruption. The disruption that the two decks play, like Stifle, Daze, Wasteland, Inquisition of Kozilek , Thoughtseize are also all fairly bad lategame.
So, any deck that empties hands quickly and/or drags the game. Artifact Aggro, Lantern Prison, 8-rack (taste your own medicine).
Nothing needs to be banned. Stop being crybabies. Way too many bans and crybabies in Modern already.
bans are needed if wotc doesnt start printing better answers
Discard spells are (broadly) very good vs countermagic; if you want a blue card that interacts favorably against discard, to my knowledge their are 2: brainstorm, and mental misstep. Daze is ok if you can play enough 1-drops. It would be extraordinarily difficult to introduce cards into modern that interact with turn 1 discard without also breaking the format.
"Death Shadow Jund" is not "Death Shadow Aggro" at all!!! Aggro decks kill as fast as possible by landing a lot of threats quickly. Disruption is minimal and only when necessary. "Death Shadow Jund" plays many discard spells. Like RUG delver in legacy, it lands one threat and protects it with disruption. The disruption that the two decks play, like Stifle, Daze, Wasteland, Inquisition of Kozilek , Thoughtseize are also all fairly bad lategame.
So, any deck that empties hands quickly and/or drags the game. Artifact Aggro, Lantern Prison, 8-rack (taste your own medicine).
Nothing needs to be banned. Stop being crybabies. Way too many bans and crybabies in Modern already.
bans are needed if wotc doesnt start printing better answers
No they aren't. Unbans are needed, not bans. You cannot regulate a format through bans alone because there will always emerge that one best deck thats eats a ban further or later.
I would agree with you but i have to say that one problem with Magic now is the lack of competitive u based Control deck (the only two u decks are turns and fish and they play too different to look at them as control deck) .I prefer unbans any time but any U unban would not help his current position (the only one maybe could be MM but mental misstep is definetly a card we should not have in the format. Maybe a legal Force Spike would be the Solution and since White has it i dont understand Why U cannot)
So if better u cards aren't printed
Unbans to balance the format doesnt happen
If discard continue to be the best interactive strategy
They bans are the only thing that can change the format (be it in a better or worse way)
"Grixis Delver/Control" are pretty good Blue decks, certainly better than "Turns" imho.
"Bring to Light Scapeshift" is also pretty good.
Why would Force Spike be played ?
If it was any good wouldn't "U/W Control" play Mana Tithe already ?
W has better cards to play
And if a deck splashes for u it does so for specific cards and surely not force spike
Each color has so many different turn 1 plays except u that has What? Serum vision, delver of Secrets and sometimes ancestral visions? Cant think of other strong 1 cmc cards u has
I m Talking about the state of each color, not splashes..
Force spike much better in a shell with Disrupting Shoal than Mana tithe, but worse in other marginal situations like against Guttural Response and Ricochet Trap. Not sure that the synergy with Disruption shoal would be enough for it to see play, but there is some chance a delver deck might want it.
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Discard spells are (broadly) very good vs countermagic; if you want a blue card that interacts favorably against discard, to my knowledge their are 2: brainstorm, and mental misstep. Daze is ok if you can play enough 1-drops. It would be extraordinarily difficult to introduce cards into modern that interact with turn 1 discard without also breaking the format.
"Death Shadow Jund" is not "Death Shadow Aggro" at all!!! Aggro decks kill as fast as possible by landing a lot of threats quickly. Disruption is minimal and only when necessary. "Death Shadow Jund" plays many discard spells. Like RUG delver in legacy, it lands one threat and protects it with disruption. The disruption that the two decks play, like Stifle, Daze, Wasteland, Inquisition of Kozilek , Thoughtseize are also all fairly bad lategame.
So, any deck that empties hands quickly and/or drags the game. Artifact Aggro, Lantern Prison, 8-rack (taste your own medicine).
Nothing needs to be banned. Stop being crybabies. Way too many bans and crybabies in Modern already.
bans are needed if wotc doesnt start printing better answers
that and unbans, if they dont do both of those within this year I would argue for bans. this format certainly needs improvement, anyone who disagrees is in lala land
"Death Shadow Jund" is not "Death Shadow Aggro" at all!!! Aggro decks kill as fast as possible by landing a lot of threats quickly. Disruption is minimal and only when necessary. "Death Shadow Jund" plays many discard spells. Like RUG delver in legacy, it lands one threat and protects it with disruption. The disruption that the two decks play, like Stifle, Daze, Wasteland, Inquisition of Kozilek , Thoughtseize are also all fairly bad lategame.
So, any deck that empties hands quickly and/or drags the game. Artifact Aggro, Lantern Prison, 8-rack (taste your own medicine).
Nothing needs to be banned. Stop being crybabies. Way too many bans and crybabies in Modern already.
Nothing needs to be banned. A few cards should be unbanned. One tournament was taken by surprise. I think you are spot on in your assessment of decks which have a decent m/u (don't know the %s). It's not hard to fly over shadow decks (or islandwalk) and kill them when their plan is to be at 5 life or so. That's why I think Affinity has a decent m/u against them.
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URW PillowFort Stasis (costruction)
modern:
U Taking Turns combo
pauper:
UB Servitor Control
xenob8 : you know you are going to have a bad time when opponent starts with snow covered island
I would agree with you but i have to say that one problem with Magic now is the lack of competitive u based Control deck (the only two u decks are turns and fish and they play too different to look at them as control deck) .I prefer unbans any time but any U unban would not help his current position (the only one maybe could be MM but mental misstep is definetly a card we should not have in the format. Maybe a legal Force Spike would be the Solution and since White has it i dont understand Why U cannot)
So if better u cards aren't printed
Unbans to balance the format doesnt happen
If discard continue to be the best interactive strategy
They bans are the only thing that can change the format (be it in a better or worse way)
URW PillowFort Stasis (costruction)
modern:
U Taking Turns combo
pauper:
UB Servitor Control
xenob8 : you know you are going to have a bad time when opponent starts with snow covered island
"Bring to Light Scapeshift" is also pretty good.
Why would Force Spike be played ?
If it was any good wouldn't "U/W Control" play Mana Tithe already ?
W has better cards to play
And if a deck splashes for u it does so for specific cards and surely not force spike
Each color has so many different turn 1 plays except u that has What? Serum vision, delver of Secrets and sometimes ancestral visions? Cant think of other strong 1 cmc cards u has
I m Talking about the state of each color, not splashes..
URW PillowFort Stasis (costruction)
modern:
U Taking Turns combo
pauper:
UB Servitor Control
xenob8 : you know you are going to have a bad time when opponent starts with snow covered island
KnightfallGWUR
Azorius Control UW
Burn RBG
that and unbans, if they dont do both of those within this year I would argue for bans. this format certainly needs improvement, anyone who disagrees is in lala land
decks playing:
none
that's the list i saw
that Esper walkers list is sweet too though
Nothing needs to be banned. A few cards should be unbanned. One tournament was taken by surprise. I think you are spot on in your assessment of decks which have a decent m/u (don't know the %s). It's not hard to fly over shadow decks (or islandwalk) and kill them when their plan is to be at 5 life or so. That's why I think Affinity has a decent m/u against them.
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Modern/Legacy
either funpolice (Delver, Deathcloud, UW Control) or the fun decks (especially those ft. Griselbrand)