Hi, first of all sorry if there's already a thread for Vizier of the Menagerie.. but I could not find one, so started one for it. Have ordered one online, and I will have it in about 3 weeks from now.
A question to those planning to use it or already using it on a deck. Approximately how many creatures is a deck supposed to have in order to make good use of his cast creatures from top of library ability. Not including the Vizier in the count, is 20 creatures enough?
As someone who has played Wolf-Skull Shaman, the answer is "as many as you can". Look for creatures with ETB effects to replace noncreature spells. E.g. play Fiend Hunter over a removal spell, Sin Collector over a discard spell, Spell Queller over a counterspell, etc.
20 hits too low. I would say 30 including Vizier (don't know how many copies of it you're playing) is more like it.
Thanks for the reply. Only ordered one for testing purposes... basically, I don't have it yet, but would arrive in the mail soon.
Anyway, I'd like to use this chance to ask a few questions about the card:
1. Casting cards from the top of library using vizier is just like casting creatures normally? For example, if I peek and see Tasigur at the top - can I delve away cards while casting Tasigur?
2. The vizier only allows casting of creatures from the top only on main phase. I mean this card does not allow casting of creatures as an instant, right?
3. When I cast the Vizier. Can an opponent kill the vizier before I get the chance to peek at the top at library to cast a creature?
Ok, thanks for that. Also checked the gatherer page, my questions has been answered.
Oh, and I plan to use the Vizier as the top of the curve on a creature aggro deck - to help avoid running out of steam in the mid game. Will test him once the card arrives.
A question to those planning to use it or already using it on a deck. Approximately how many creatures is a deck supposed to have in order to make good use of his cast creatures from top of library ability. Not including the Vizier in the count, is 20 creatures enough?
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20 hits too low. I would say 30 including Vizier (don't know how many copies of it you're playing) is more like it.
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Big Johnny.
Anyway, I'd like to use this chance to ask a few questions about the card:
1. Casting cards from the top of library using vizier is just like casting creatures normally? For example, if I peek and see Tasigur at the top - can I delve away cards while casting Tasigur?
2. The vizier only allows casting of creatures from the top only on main phase. I mean this card does not allow casting of creatures as an instant, right?
3. When I cast the Vizier. Can an opponent kill the vizier before I get the chance to peek at the top at library to cast a creature?
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2: no, you can cast flash creatures at instant speed
3: no, you get to look, looking at the top card doesn't use the stack
2 and 3 are answered by Gatherer rulings.
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Big Johnny.
Oh, and I plan to use the Vizier as the top of the curve on a creature aggro deck - to help avoid running out of steam in the mid game. Will test him once the card arrives.
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Want to play a UW control deck in modern, but don't have jace or snaps?
Please come visit us at the Emeria Titan control thread