Quote from AvalonAurora »Things I'd hope for entering Modern from sets like this:
I'd hope for Containment Priest or maybe a non-human variant on it to avoid more human tribal power ups.
Wall of Blossoms, as well as a blue variant on that theme (Blossoms, Wall of Omens) possibly with flying/reach as an extra since defensive creatures and card draw are already both in blue's color pie (whereas card draw isn't as much in white's, and defensive creatures isn't as much in green's).
A just plain U hexproof creature, so that the other half of Slippery Bogle to the Gladecover Scout exists.
Counterspell and/or a counter that counters things 3 cmc or less. If not counterspell, then I'd expect the 3 cmc or less targeting one to be UU, if both, then I'd expect the cmc 3 or less one to be 1U.
Quote from greywyn »I have long argued that there should be such sets. Often met with scorn, dismissal and worse, but there it is - even WotC has evidently been considering the possibility. Hadn’t even seen this until now.
Here’s hoping it does happen. Just what the format needs.
Quote from mapccu »There are really only a handful of cards they could even print through a modern only set that I can see coming to fruition. Yes the set solves issues of the core 2019 awkwardness of amulet of safety, isolate and infernal reckoning but those could have all been uncommons with minimal set impact - like damping sphere.
The power level on multicolored 3 cmc cards is already quite high in standard. kolaghan's command and savage knuckleblade didn't blow standard wide open. The majority of UW vial spirits creature base was in standard at one time...and was fine. spell queller didn't warp standard like emrakul, the promised end or even felidar guardian - but it's better in modern. But if dropping cards like isolate is what this is going to be about, it's a hard pass for me. I can't see them printing an entire product without a chase card though - why make something that won't sell?
So what 1 or 2 cmc cards would I even be interested in? counterspell, a decent 1 drop for faeries, birchlore rangers, containment priest, annnnnnnd a force of will variant that doesn't suck as bad as foil or disrupting shoal. That's literally it, as I think the more interesting build around cards can be fine for standard if they are priced well enough.
What I'm not okay with is bottleneck supply for new tournament staples. Even if supply is sufficient there is price memory and human emotions that enter the fray. Look at nexus of fate, which I believe Maro stated has more copies in circulation than any other mythic in the set - the apparent scarcity is fabricated by the secondary market, people giving into impulses, and EDH demand.
Quote from AUTUMNTWILIGHT »Would this just be reprints or would it have new cards made for modern first (legacy, commander, vintage as well).
Also I worry if it does include new cards then we see massive nerfs in the power of standard playable cards.
Quote from Thenarus »In TCC's interview with Gavin Verhey today, the question came up about designing and inserting Modern cards in supplemental products bypassing Standard; apparently it's something we shouldn't expect in the near future. Nice to get a confirmation one way or the other, at least. Maybe the poll didn't go so well?
We at least know that they are warm enough to the idea to ask about it, so it's a bit disappointing to know nothing like this is coming soon. On the other hand, if we do get such a set, it's nice to know they don't want to rush it either.
Quote from Muad"dib »I'm extremely glad to hear that this product won't ever be released, or that the likelihood of such a product is slim at best.
Whenever cards are "designed" for formats, you get garbage in Legacy like Leovold, Emissary of Trest and True-Name Nemesis.
Quote from Gavin Verhey »There was a time at the very beginning [of Commander] when we did make cards like Flusterstorm and Scavenging Ooze to create some Legacy shots and to make the product more appealing. [...] But what we've found is that Commander players don't usually want cards like this (Flusterstorm is an...unusual fit in most Commander decks, to say the least), and that when these cards do hit, it's often because they're incredibly powerful—which usually means they're not the most fun cards. (I'm looking at you, True-Name Nemesis.) Legacy players don't generally want cards like True-Name Nemesis that are unfun in one-on-one added to their formats, anyway. (Which is probably true of most players for most formats!)
Now, when we're designing Commander sets, we try to be very careful when thinking about cards for Eternal formats. Play Design does careful passes to try and make sure everything is safe for Legacy and Vintage. And if we do think there's any chance that a card might show up in Legacy or Vintage, we try to make it something reactive rather than proactive. Those cards have a much lower chance of being an issue; Flusterstorm answers a problem, whereas True-Name Nemesis causes one.
Quote from Thenarus »So it seems like they focus on not jamming proactive cards into the eternal formats now, and for the most part that's worked out alright, especially since Play Design has been involved. Two busted cards in three years from supplemental products not designed to target one single format (and prior to a team specifically established to filter such elements out, most recently three years ago) seems like such things are more the exception and not the rule.
Personally, I'd be very excited to see what these teams could come up with when Modern is the focus. I certainly don't want this hypothetical format to overhaul the format, like you, but I believe that good reactive cards and tools for new or underrepresented strategies would be very welcome. They also don't need to make hundreds of brand new cards; existing cards are relatively easier to predict, and there are always current Modern cards in dire need of reprinting. The mix of all of these things could definitely make for a very nice Modern product with time and good people working it, don't you think?
Quote from Muad"dib »Part of what I enjoy about Legacy, and in a sense what I enjoy about Modern, is that once you choose a deck, it is good for a decent amount of time and there are customizations you can make depending on what new cards get released. In some cases your deck evolves into something else, but that's fine. Personally, I actually don't mind the filtering that Standard creates. For Modern, there have been enough cards, both obvious (Arclight Phoenix) and seemingly innocuous (Hollow One) that have spawned their own decks and archetypes. I guess I'm more conservative in this regard and I don't think that cards such as Counterspell or Baleful Strix would be beneficial for the format. One thing to be aware of is that formats can be "too much" in flux which is just not enjoyable at all for me.
Quote from k0no »Fingers crossed we see some fetchlands in the commander set.
Quote from BlazingRagnarok »Quote from k0no »Fingers crossed we see some fetchlands in the commander set.
There's no way
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i mean, there is. there definitely is.
likely? not sure. but they could do it. a couple of fetches in each deck in a new series of commander precons would hit all ten fetches and work well in those decks, make for good sales and please modern and commander players alike.
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What I'm trying to say is that trying to serve two masters risks pleasing neither