Didn't see a thread so I figured I would throw one up.
Just tuned in and caught the round 2 matches shown.
Infect vs Bant Spirits (Kevin Jones on Spirits) and Hardened Scales vs Dredge (Ari Lax on Dredge).
Neither round 2 match were exactly interesting to watch in my opinion. Hopefully, we end up with some better magic later in the day.
It's common in first rounds of SCG Opens to have relatively lower level of magic. We mostly see notable and pro players smashing the people they randomly paired with. People first time on camera, extremeyl stressed, playing against pros, there will be punts. I am pretty sure things will pick up later.
Guys please opinions on japanese cards. Lost a 3/3 creature against Japan celestial colonade. This guy played all creatures and spells in english cards, but some cards in his manabase was japanese. I dont registrated this really ( my brain say its all fine and all english to me lets attack his empty board)...and i am sure it is a Kind of legal cheating. It is not ok, but i know legal. I Hate such people. I never forget colonade normally, but with this Tricks it can happen one time in 3 years and such people take advantage of this
If I am a customer spending premium amount of dollars, I expect a premium service. Jund falls into the category of a premium deck costing more dollars than a majority of the rest of the format. I'm not getting the desired performance ratio per dollars spent out of the Jund deck because WOTC decided to make the format more diverse.
Brad Nelson showing us that all you need to beat KCI is to perfectly draw multiple sideboard hate cards and Surgical the KCI itself when the opponent has a hand full of lands. Easy.
Brad Nelson showing us that all you need to beat KCI is to perfectly draw multiple sideboard hate cards and Surgical the KCI itself when the opponent has a hand full of lands. Easy.
Cherrypicking examples from a single tournament does not actually constitute matchup analysis. It's just the same kind of Twitch/Twitter/Reddit soundbyte meme we see in the State thread, which largely serves to vent personal frustration and make an attempt at a clever color commentary. It does not advance our understanding of the format in any way. It was like when I said the Faeries vs. Tron matchup was enjoyable to watch in the previous GP, and you launched into a tirade about how improbable it was to win for the Faeries player. No one was assessing the matchup then just as no one is assessing it now.
It's one thing when someone makes an inaccurate assessment of something (e.g. Twin's history) and you respond. That makes sense. But you just posting not one but two negative comments like this in the same thread with the same formatting/construction/content just comes off as personal venting. We get that you don't like Modern right now. You don't need to keep posting negative jabs to promote your personal viewpoints.
By far, the most Tron/KCI we have seen at an SCG event.
But we keep getting the impression that Jeskai is running the tables because Brad Nelson and Seth Manfield keep being on camera with it, despite being only 5 copies of 143 in Day 2.
The top 8 archetypes represent either creature-based aggro or linear/combo and make up 51% of Day 2.
i do wonder why manfield is playing jeskai. he is known for being an all-rounder and not beholden to any archetypes or strategies. i kinda remember him playing tron, boggles, and hollow one (as well as jeskai) at various events this year.
nelson is likely playing jeskai because seth recommended it.
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Modern: UWGSnow-Bant Control BURGrixis Death's Shadow GWBCoCo Elves WCDeath and Taxes (sold)
Mac Schrantz - Jund
Max Meideiros - Grixis Shadow
Seth Manfield - Jeskai Control
Jeffrey Carr - Mono-Red Phoenix
Bradley Nelson - Jeskai Control
Ross Merriam - Izzet Phoenix
Joe Blizzard - Azorius Control
Austin Collin - Ironworks
Yes UW, 2 Phoenix and GDS left and I think that UW has better chances against those Phoenix decks with Terminus, Detention Sphere and Rest in Peace in the side.
I enjoyed the finals a lot. Just because two decks highlighting the same card played in the finals doesn't automatically mean the field's "not diverse."
It was cool seeing the different innovations: Ross' aggressive sequencing approach to Carr's aggressive curve approach. As someone who runs the Steam-Kin version, I still feel like there's room: being able to flashback a faithless without tapping lands has been huge. But seeing these two different versions definitely makes me think twice about how to either ditch it, or innovate with it.
Carr came close to taking it, so it's a great list. I loved seeing him keep Risk Factor: I think as a two-of, it's perfect. Being able to cast it from your hand is what creates potential blow outs (either 8 damage from one card, or more damage/better board position from one card).
Phoenix decks are really neat. They don't get shut down quite as hard by graveyard hate as dredge does, which is probably why they succeeded this weekend.
Rest in Peace? Leyline? That's fine I'll just beat you down with Swiftspears, Things in the Ice, hardcast Phoenixes, or just burn you out. Oh and Crackling Drake out of Merriam's list was genius
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Just tuned in and caught the round 2 matches shown.
Infect vs Bant Spirits (Kevin Jones on Spirits) and Hardened Scales vs Dredge (Ari Lax on Dredge).
Neither round 2 match were exactly interesting to watch in my opinion. Hopefully, we end up with some better magic later in the day.
UR ....... WUBR ........... WB ............. RGW ........ UBR ....... WUB .... BGU
Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
UB Faeries (15-6-0)
UWR Control (10-5-1)/Kiki Control/Midrange/Harbinger
UBR Cruel Control (6-4-0)/Grixis Control/Delver/Blue Jund
UWB Control/Mentor
UW Miracles/Control (currently active, 14-2-0)
BW Eldrazi & Taxes
RW Burn (9-1-0)
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UR ....... WUBR ........... WB ............. RGW ........ UBR ....... WUB .... BGU
Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
UB Faeries (15-6-0)
UWR Control (10-5-1)/Kiki Control/Midrange/Harbinger
UBR Cruel Control (6-4-0)/Grixis Control/Delver/Blue Jund
UWB Control/Mentor
UW Miracles/Control (currently active, 14-2-0)
BW Eldrazi & Taxes
RW Burn (9-1-0)
I do (academic) research on video games and archaeology! You can check out my open access book here: https://www.sidestone.com/books/the-interactive-past
Here we are with a classic match up. Lets goooo
Both he and Cedric said Jace was too good.
Spirits
UB Faeries (15-6-0)
UWR Control (10-5-1)/Kiki Control/Midrange/Harbinger
UBR Cruel Control (6-4-0)/Grixis Control/Delver/Blue Jund
UWB Control/Mentor
UW Miracles/Control (currently active, 14-2-0)
BW Eldrazi & Taxes
RW Burn (9-1-0)
I do (academic) research on video games and archaeology! You can check out my open access book here: https://www.sidestone.com/books/the-interactive-past
UR ....... WUBR ........... WB ............. RGW ........ UBR ....... WUB .... BGU
Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
Cherrypicking examples from a single tournament does not actually constitute matchup analysis. It's just the same kind of Twitch/Twitter/Reddit soundbyte meme we see in the State thread, which largely serves to vent personal frustration and make an attempt at a clever color commentary. It does not advance our understanding of the format in any way. It was like when I said the Faeries vs. Tron matchup was enjoyable to watch in the previous GP, and you launched into a tirade about how improbable it was to win for the Faeries player. No one was assessing the matchup then just as no one is assessing it now.
It's one thing when someone makes an inaccurate assessment of something (e.g. Twin's history) and you respond. That makes sense. But you just posting not one but two negative comments like this in the same thread with the same formatting/construction/content just comes off as personal venting. We get that you don't like Modern right now. You don't need to keep posting negative jabs to promote your personal viewpoints.
UR ....... WUBR ........... WB ............. RGW ........ UBR ....... WUB .... BGU
Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
Bant Spirits – 14
Mono-Green Tron – 13
Ironworks – 11
Humans – 9
Infect – 9
Hardened+Scales – 9
Izzet Phoenix – 8
Burn – 7
Jund – 5
Jeskai Control – 5
Grixis Death’s Shadow – 4
Hollow+One – 4
Dredge – 4
Golgari Midrange – 3
Azorius Control – 3
Storm – 3
Runaway Red – 3
Colorless Eldrazi – 3
Selesnya Hexproof – 3
Titan Shift – 2
Amulet Titan – 2
Counters Company – 2
Mono-White Martyr – 2
Elves – 2
Mardu Pyromancer – 2
Mono-Red Hollow+One – 1
Mono-Red Phoenix – 1
Azorius Spirits – 1
Grixis Whir – 1
Titan Breach – 1
Jeskai Saheeli – 1
Slivers – 1
Allies – 1
Jund Death’s Shadow – 1
Selesnya Company – 1
UR ....... WUBR ........... WB ............. RGW ........ UBR ....... WUB .... BGU
Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
Spirits
But we keep getting the impression that Jeskai is running the tables because Brad Nelson and Seth Manfield keep being on camera with it, despite being only 5 copies of 143 in Day 2.
The top 8 archetypes represent either creature-based aggro or linear/combo and make up 51% of Day 2.
UR ....... WUBR ........... WB ............. RGW ........ UBR ....... WUB .... BGU
Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
nelson is likely playing jeskai because seth recommended it.
UWGSnow-Bant Control
BURGrixis Death's Shadow
GWBCoCo Elves
WCDeath and Taxes(sold)Mac Schrantz - Jund
Max Meideiros - Grixis Shadow
Seth Manfield - Jeskai Control
Jeffrey Carr - Mono-Red Phoenix
Bradley Nelson - Jeskai Control
Ross Merriam - Izzet Phoenix
Joe Blizzard - Azorius Control
Austin Collin - Ironworks
EDIT: Now I'm being told UW won the KCI game.
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Spirits
True. I thought about this too and it looks like that might be happening. The UR version is way slower
It was cool seeing the different innovations: Ross' aggressive sequencing approach to Carr's aggressive curve approach. As someone who runs the Steam-Kin version, I still feel like there's room: being able to flashback a faithless without tapping lands has been huge. But seeing these two different versions definitely makes me think twice about how to either ditch it, or innovate with it.
Carr came close to taking it, so it's a great list. I loved seeing him keep Risk Factor: I think as a two-of, it's perfect. Being able to cast it from your hand is what creates potential blow outs (either 8 damage from one card, or more damage/better board position from one card).
Rest in Peace? Leyline? That's fine I'll just beat you down with Swiftspears, Things in the Ice, hardcast Phoenixes, or just burn you out. Oh and Crackling Drake out of Merriam's list was genius