Everyone I know has heard of or runs either Aether Vial and/or Mox Opal. They are extremely powerful cards each costing $32/$90, they see lots of play and seem to be intregrel in many decks. That being said they allow decks to be extremely aggressive, more aggressive than Burn or even Elves. Elves is too slow to see play these days and in some ways so is merfolk. Many players now opt for the faster deck Humans. I do feel modern may be a bit too fast at the moment and certainly shouldn't be any faster than legacy matches. So I am writing this thread to see what your views are, should they be banned? Should they be restricted to one card copy in a deck? Or should they be left alone?
My views are;
Pros to banning both,
1. Decks like humans will be much slower and cannot respond to draw steps to throw down freebooters or meddling mages.
2. Decks like lantern control and affinity won't have an easy quick mana source and will become obviously slower.
Cons to banning both,
1. Decks like humans or merfolk will have to run more control to prevent people from wrathing their field so they can maintain board presence.
2. Decks like lantern control and affinity will have trouble dealing with fast decks as they are 1 mana short.
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If you want to answer humans etb hate like Torpor Orb and board wipes like Terminus would work, to answer lantern artifact hate like Abrade and discard like Thoughtseize...
I hold the opinion that we need a better free counterspell than Disrupting Shoal, more like Mental Misstep but tied to blue in some way (reveal an island, discard a blue card, some such) is also needed...
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My views are;
Pros to banning both,
1. Decks like humans will be much slower and cannot respond to draw steps to throw down freebooters or meddling mages.
2. Decks like lantern control and affinity won't have an easy quick mana source and will become obviously slower.
Cons to banning both,
1. Decks like humans or merfolk will have to run more control to prevent people from wrathing their field so they can maintain board presence.
2. Decks like lantern control and affinity will have trouble dealing with fast decks as they are 1 mana short.
"Earth!" shouts Nissa
"Fire!" shouts Chandra
"Wind!" shouts Jace
"Water!" shouts Kiora
"Heart!" shouts Gideon
"Go Multiverse!" shouts everyone combined
"By your powers combined, I am Captain Multiverse!" shouts Captain Multiverse
That being said, Aether Vial, Mox Opal, Faithless Looting, Ancient Stirrings, Simian Spirit Guide, Noble Hierarch and Serum Visions are all enablers. Ban any 2 and the others will fill rise to the gap, ban all of them and you trash the format...
If you want to answer humans etb hate like Torpor Orb and board wipes like Terminus would work, to answer lantern artifact hate like Abrade and discard like Thoughtseize...
I hold the opinion that we need a better free counterspell than Disrupting Shoal, more like Mental Misstep but tied to blue in some way (reveal an island, discard a blue card, some such) is also needed...
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