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Cramming all that in + 24 lands doesn't leave a lot of room. Could try protecting the combo via spellskite and some counters. Go for more control with targeted discard + creature kill. Or accelerate the combos somehow via tutors or card draw maybe?
Spellskite + Mikaeus is actually pretty sweet.
Might need to splash green or white for the sideboard since graveyard hating artifacts/enchantments will short circuit things pretty easily.
Yeah this is nice.
I tried something similar with Hardened Scales, Rite of Passage and Walking ballista.
Well i think a splash to any color could or should be done mostly for sideboard reasons.
Discard is a good way to control the enemy till you can combo of.
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4 Garies, 4 Clone Garies and 2 Mimic Garies will gary drain an opponent
Mulldrifter with Mikaeus is sick. Mullkaeus with Heartless, is really sick. Draw 4, 3/3 flyer for U
It was fun but it was too fair, it so fair it autoloses versus craps like Counterspell.dec, Tron.dec and Combo.dec
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Well, what you showed us in the post, is just your creatures and Heartless Summoning, what else did you play exactly? The landbase the other spells?
Maybe you could clarify what was the problem against the decks you faced?
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Post by Narah about unbanning Mind Twist in legacy and that this would be evil:
Yeah, but it's really more "Disney Evil" than practical. It's like being a bond villain and giving a monologue rather then just shooting them.
If you want to play on MTGO add me I'm HeskatetAS, playing Modern and Legacy
Also worth noting that the OP’s idea is a lot less fair in that it can combo kill on turn 4.
Based on nothing but solitaire on my phone, I’ve gone away from trying to cram the Viscera Seer + Myr Retriever + Bitter Ordeal combo in the deck. Too many cases where the various synergies and combos didn’t line up. But that left more room for standard black interaction via thoughtseize and inquisition which give you a better chance against other unfair strategies.
Polluted Delta I don't have lol. Maybe I need to add some Ghost Quarters and cut off some Hollowed Fountains/Islands. To help hedge the Tron matchup, Maybe GQ myself to thin out those extra lands. I definitely want to add 1 Sunken Hollow.
Graveborn Muse is very very risky, kinda win more. Sure two of her gets 4 or 6 extra cards like a super crazy bob but the life loss gets real. Would like a Loot draw instead, as a way to pitch all the dead Discards and Heartlesses. Need a way to pitch cards, Collective Brutality seems nice (But holy shet why is that so expensive)
Removed Progenitor Mimic, too win more to splash green for, Evil twin is taken vs other clone variants because he is more affordable at UB vs UU of mose other Clone Variants. His tap effect won me one game so far. Phantasmal Image that is a card I really need to add.
12 Garies is very effective at killing slower Fair decks, Ensnaring Bridge decks.
We should really consider the usefulness of Mikaeus. He's a beater true, hes a lord but a noncopiable lord. His Undying has one sac outlet, Mulldrifter and Evil Twin's tap effect. Consider replacing him with Undying Evil entirely. Because he needs to be played before mulldrifter, while Undying Evil can be played after, "during" mulldrifter and as a quick gotcha! Antiremoval.
Kalitas is a fair enough guy, real lifesaver vs toofast.dec
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I think the whole thing was thought to combo kill with mikaeus and Walking ballista and play some value creatures which profit from undying and Heartless summoning. Mulldrifter and shriekmaw seem very nice here,or other evoke creatures.
The combo kill isn't possible with Undying evil.
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I think its good enough for modern in a base black deck. the probalem is I'm not sure where to go from here other than Walking Ballistato kill them
Thoughts and Ideas of how to build this combo out in modern is appreciated!
thoughts on colors for the deck? right now it only needs black, should it splash?
mulldrifter
Cramming all that in + 24 lands doesn't leave a lot of room. Could try protecting the combo via spellskite and some counters. Go for more control with targeted discard + creature kill. Or accelerate the combos somehow via tutors or card draw maybe?
Spellskite + Mikaeus is actually pretty sweet.
Might need to splash green or white for the sideboard since graveyard hating artifacts/enchantments will short circuit things pretty easily.
I tried something similar with Hardened Scales, Rite of Passage and Walking ballista.
Well i think a splash to any color could or should be done mostly for sideboard reasons.
Discard is a good way to control the enemy till you can combo of.
"Well, then we will at least fight in the shadow"
"There is no glory to be gained in the kingdom of the dead!"
Post by Narah about unbanning Mind Twist in legacy and that this would be evil:
If you want to play on MTGO add me I'm HeskatetAS, playing Modern and Legacy
[card]
4 Heartless Summoning
4 Gray Merchant of Asphodel
4 Clone
4 Mulldrifter
3 Graveborn Muse
2 Mikaeus, the Unhallowed
2 Progenitor Mimic
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4 Garies, 4 Clone Garies and 2 Mimic Garies will gary drain an opponent
Mulldrifter with Mikaeus is sick. Mullkaeus with Heartless, is really sick. Draw 4, 3/3 flyer for U
It was fun but it was too fair, it so fair it autoloses versus craps like Counterspell.dec, Tron.dec and Combo.dec
Maybe you could clarify what was the problem against the decks you faced?
"Well, then we will at least fight in the shadow"
"There is no glory to be gained in the kingdom of the dead!"
Post by Narah about unbanning Mind Twist in legacy and that this would be evil:
If you want to play on MTGO add me I'm HeskatetAS, playing Modern and Legacy
Based on nothing but solitaire on my phone, I’ve gone away from trying to cram the Viscera Seer + Myr Retriever + Bitter Ordeal combo in the deck. Too many cases where the various synergies and combos didn’t line up. But that left more room for standard black interaction via thoughtseize and inquisition which give you a better chance against other unfair strategies.
4 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
3 Islands
6 Swamps
4 Marsh Flats
4 Flooded Strand
2 Watery Grave
Interaction
4 Inquisition
6 Duress
4 Gray Merchant of Asphodel
3 Clone
4 Evil Twin
2 Mikaeus, the Unhallowed
4 Mulldrifter
3 Graveborn Muse
2 Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet
3 Damnation
3 Fatal Push
4 Spell Pierce
2 Undying Evil
2 Relic of Progenitus
Polluted Delta I don't have lol. Maybe I need to add some Ghost Quarters and cut off some Hollowed Fountains/Islands. To help hedge the Tron matchup, Maybe GQ myself to thin out those extra lands. I definitely want to add 1 Sunken Hollow.
Graveborn Muse is very very risky, kinda win more. Sure two of her gets 4 or 6 extra cards like a super crazy bob but the life loss gets real. Would like a Loot draw instead, as a way to pitch all the dead Discards and Heartlesses. Need a way to pitch cards, Collective Brutality seems nice (But holy shet why is that so expensive)
Removed Progenitor Mimic, too win more to splash green for, Evil twin is taken vs other clone variants because he is more affordable at UB vs UU of mose other Clone Variants. His tap effect won me one game so far. Phantasmal Image that is a card I really need to add.
12 Garies is very effective at killing slower Fair decks, Ensnaring Bridge decks.
We should really consider the usefulness of Mikaeus. He's a beater true, hes a lord but a noncopiable lord. His Undying has one sac outlet, Mulldrifter and Evil Twin's tap effect. Consider replacing him with Undying Evil entirely. Because he needs to be played before mulldrifter, while Undying Evil can be played after, "during" mulldrifter and as a quick gotcha! Antiremoval.
Kalitas is a fair enough guy, real lifesaver vs toofast.dec
The combo kill isn't possible with Undying evil.
"Well, then we will at least fight in the shadow"
"There is no glory to be gained in the kingdom of the dead!"
Post by Narah about unbanning Mind Twist in legacy and that this would be evil:
If you want to play on MTGO add me I'm HeskatetAS, playing Modern and Legacy