I sold my last Stoneforge Mystic a day too late; they are already starting to come down. I sold the other one a little while ago. When they are reprinted and they sell for $1.50, I might look at them again.
In the meantime, I looking at how this deck can hate on SFM decks. Leonin Arbiter is good, Aven Mindcensor might deserve a couple of slots somewhere; I've been playing without them.
Knight of Autumn has been a champ for me; I dropped one on an Aria of Flame a couple of weeks ago (Aether Vial on three, just waiting for it), and then the guy flipped a Thing in the Ice and played another Aria! I had Raking Canopy in play and Runed Halo naming Awoken Horror! Silliest game I've ever seen. Sadly it was game three and there wasn't time for him to deck himself or for me to Gavony-up anything to get through a 10+/4 Drake.
Anyway, I got distracted, KoA is obviously good against equipment, I've got two KoA main and two side now but I'm worried people will start playing Torpor Orb so I'm thinking of dusting off Qasali Pridemage and running a split.
Gaddock Teeg will stop Batterskull, but I'm not sure where he belongs now. I just moved two copies to the main-deck but I think it's probably not optimum; those slots could be better used I think.
The mana-denial plan is still sometimes effective and while that isn't really fun, it's an easy win when it works. I played against a Goblin Charbelcher deck a few weeks ago and it was a laugher. This is also the only deck I have ever beaten Ad Nauseam with. Storm is also a pretty good match-up. Thalia, Guardian of Thraben just about beats them alone, Thalia and Choke is, well, a joke.
I do wish people would post here; facebook is just a lousy place for discussing Magic decks.
Teeg only psuedo stops Batterskull, cause it can still be sneaked in. I've seen a few lists running 2 arbiter, 4 aven mindcensor and the 4 SFM, opinions?
Teeg only psuedo stops Batterskull, cause it can still be sneaked in. I've seen a few lists running 2 arbiter, 4 aven mindcensor and the 4 SFM, opinions?
Yes, Teeg doesn't stop SFM's shenanigans. Careless oversight on my part.
I've seen lists with SFM and Arbiter and I just scroll on by. For me it's no issue but I do think it should be one or the other.
Wilt-Leaf Liege is the reason because I use Kitchen Finks and I usen't Blade Splicer
opinions against Jund?
any change?
Thank!
PD EDIT
I like Flickerwisp in a vial list although Charming Prince does one of the things Flickerwisp can do. But Flickerwisp can do so much more than either Price Charming or Resto.
One Leyline of Sanctity seems bad. If you don't have it in your opener, you may be dead before you can cast it. Four or none seems correct.
Mirran Crusader can beat and flyers can usually beat, but you are light on threats. Crusader is good but he's vulnerable to Burn, but that's okay against Burn as that's a spell that doesn't go to your life total. It's not so great against Jund, as they don't mind using a Lightning Bolt against creatures. Crusader is not a bad card to have somewhere in the 75, but he's only really good in a few match-ups.
Worship is not great without something like Thrun, the Last Troll to hold the fort. It's not that good in any case as cards that case life-loss beat it any way. Collective Brutality is widely played. I've beaten it with Bump in the Night, but that's rarely played.
I would not play the Worships, the single Leyline or the Raking Canopies; at least not three of the latter.
I don't know why the Wilt-leaf Liege-Kitchen Finks-Blade Splicer bit is in your message. Blade Splicer would be fine if you moved a few things around
I like Smiter, indeed, I play a full set but he doesn't seem popular so I'm probably wrong. Voice of Resurgence hasn't done much for me. I think I started with four and cut to two and then to zero.
The side-board is better if you think you need the Leylines. Four KoA is probably not enough life gain for the match-up.
Side-boards are hard to judge as they depend on what the other kids are playing. You'll ultimately have to make your own determinations
Merfolks, Spirits and ELVES ELVES ELVES, my favorite pairing...
Why 2x Qasali Pridemage and 4x Knight of Autumn?
Because it is Stoneforge Mystic, Ensnaring Bridge and Affinity...
What is the biggest problem?
I hope to stop the great creatures whit Ghost Quarter and Arbiter Leonin, because I feel we have few threats->
3x Loxodon Smiter, 4x Restoration Angel, 4x Knight of Autumn (whit two counter)... the rest gryzzly bear or so I feel.
Is the Deck that I liked the most.
I only have a one doubt.
2x Qasali Pridemage or 2x Eternal Witness or 2x Big Thalia
Being able to return path to exile or dromoka's command can be made powerful.
could you convince me?
"Exalted" is another thing I like about Qasali.
Turn 2 Big Thalia it can be a great threat
so I have left
2x Qasali Pridemage
or
2x Eternal Witness
or
2x Big Thalia
I've finally decided on Thalia, because I like the interruption.
It is also more powerful whit Dromoka's Command first strike is important and Thalia (1+1) 4/3 with first strike she can beat
many creatures.
But it is a difficult decisión
How do I speak my english is not very good sorry, I like to read your
I have beaten people to death with exalted Smiter's a few times. Resto with exalted will also be good.
Pridemage is a good man; in most applications KoA outclasses him but the exalted can be good and there are Enters-the-Battlefield hate cards, e.g. Tocatli Honor Guard and Torpor Orb. These don't seem very popular but they exist.
Dromoka's Command doesn't seem particularly well suited to deal with Thing in the Ice // Awoken Horror. A Scryb Ranger or a Skylasher would be much more fun. Okay, that last bit wasn't entirely serious. Flickerwisp can reset Thing. I've used Runed Halo to name Awoken Horror. Things such as Blessed Alliance can be used to tackle fatties such as the horror.
I've been playing with one Big Thalia, but I haven't played many games. I don't currently have Pridemages - they've been replaced by KoA - or W-Wit but both are respectable cards.
You might try a split of Wrath of God and Settle the Wreckage. They'll catch on to the Settle pretty quickly, although then you can bluff them by holding up four mana - make a show of counting it for them when you do this. They'll be mindful of it after they've been blown out once.
This is one of my favorite decks but it's mainly due to Flickwisp and Vial; they are so much fun together. I just wouldn't play it without Flickerwisp.
In the meantime, I looking at how this deck can hate on SFM decks. Leonin Arbiter is good, Aven Mindcensor might deserve a couple of slots somewhere; I've been playing without them.
Knight of Autumn has been a champ for me; I dropped one on an Aria of Flame a couple of weeks ago (Aether Vial on three, just waiting for it), and then the guy flipped a Thing in the Ice and played another Aria! I had Raking Canopy in play and Runed Halo naming Awoken Horror! Silliest game I've ever seen. Sadly it was game three and there wasn't time for him to deck himself or for me to Gavony-up anything to get through a 10+/4 Drake.
Anyway, I got distracted, KoA is obviously good against equipment, I've got two KoA main and two side now but I'm worried people will start playing Torpor Orb so I'm thinking of dusting off Qasali Pridemage and running a split.
Gaddock Teeg will stop Batterskull, but I'm not sure where he belongs now. I just moved two copies to the main-deck but I think it's probably not optimum; those slots could be better used I think.
The mana-denial plan is still sometimes effective and while that isn't really fun, it's an easy win when it works. I played against a Goblin Charbelcher deck a few weeks ago and it was a laugher. This is also the only deck I have ever beaten Ad Nauseam with. Storm is also a pretty good match-up. Thalia, Guardian of Thraben just about beats them alone, Thalia and Choke is, well, a joke.
I do wish people would post here; facebook is just a lousy place for discussing Magic decks.
Frenzy-Affinity-Ghost Quarter-Rock-Tokens- RGWPhyrexian Zoo- WVial KnightsStandard:
BW Knights(Rotated)Pioneer: RW Knights - BW Rally Zombies - UW Heroes
Commander:WUG
Jenara, Asura of War- WGSigarda, Host of HeronsCasualties of economicsLegacy: Good-night, sweet prince. Mono-R Burn
I've seen lists with SFM and Arbiter and I just scroll on by. For me it's no issue but I do think it should be one or the other.
Frenzy-Affinity-Ghost Quarter-Rock-Tokens- RGWPhyrexian Zoo- WVial KnightsStandard:
BW Knights(Rotated)Pioneer: RW Knights - BW Rally Zombies - UW Heroes
Commander:WUG
Jenara, Asura of War- WGSigarda, Host of HeronsCasualties of economicsLegacy: Good-night, sweet prince. Mono-R Burn
1x Brushland
1x Horizon Canopy
4x Temple Garden
4x Razorverge Thicket
2x Stirring Wildwood
3x Forest
2x Plains
21 Lands
4x Noble Hierarch
4x Leonin Arbiter
4x Charming Prince
3x Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
1x Voice of Resurgence
1x Qasali Pridemage
2x Mirran Crusader
4x Knight of Autumn
4x Restoration Angel
1x Shalai, Voice of Plenty
4x Aether Vial
4x Path to Exile
3x Dromoka's Command
11 Spells
2x Worship
1x Leyline of Sanctity
1x settle the wreckage
2x Rest In Peace
3x Damping Sphere
3x Raking Canopy
Do you like it?
sorry my english is not very got I am a spanish
good ones?
bad pairings?
I feel there are no major threats
Wilt-Leaf Liege is the reason because I use Kitchen Finks and I usen't Blade Splicer
opinions against Jund?
any change?
Thank!
PD EDIT
Raking Canopy might be past it's prime; Phoenix was seriously weakened by the ban on Faithless Looting.
One Leyline of Sanctity seems bad. If you don't have it in your opener, you may be dead before you can cast it. Four or none seems correct.
Mirran Crusader can beat and flyers can usually beat, but you are light on threats. Crusader is good but he's vulnerable to Burn, but that's okay against Burn as that's a spell that doesn't go to your life total. It's not so great against Jund, as they don't mind using a Lightning Bolt against creatures. Crusader is not a bad card to have somewhere in the 75, but he's only really good in a few match-ups.
Worship is not great without something like Thrun, the Last Troll to hold the fort. It's not that good in any case as cards that case life-loss beat it any way. Collective Brutality is widely played. I've beaten it with Bump in the Night, but that's rarely played.
I would not play the Worships, the single Leyline or the Raking Canopies; at least not three of the latter.
I don't know why the Wilt-leaf Liege-Kitchen Finks-Blade Splicer bit is in your message. Blade Splicer would be fine if you moved a few things around
Frenzy-Affinity-Ghost Quarter-Rock-Tokens- RGWPhyrexian Zoo- WVial KnightsStandard:
BW Knights(Rotated)Pioneer: RW Knights - BW Rally Zombies - UW Heroes
Commander:WUG
Jenara, Asura of War- WGSigarda, Host of HeronsCasualties of economicsLegacy: Good-night, sweet prince. Mono-R Burn
Jund-> Wrenn and Six 1 damage y dead.
Blade Splicer, Thalia Guardian of Thraben, Flickerwisp.
I edited the message.
Sideboard
4x Leyline of Sanctity
3x Stony Silence
2x Rest in Peace
1x Settle the Wreckage
2x Raking Canopy (Spirits and Phoenix)
3x Damping Sphere
Creatures
4x Noble Hierarch
4x Leonin Arbiter
4x Charming Prince
3x Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
1x Voice of Resurgence
1x Qasali Pridemage
2x Loxodon Smiter
4x Knight of Autumn
4x Restoration Angel
1x Shalai, Voice of Plenty
could I be better?
The side-board is better if you think you need the Leylines. Four KoA is probably not enough life gain for the match-up.
Side-boards are hard to judge as they depend on what the other kids are playing. You'll ultimately have to make your own determinations
Frenzy-Affinity-Ghost Quarter-Rock-Tokens- RGWPhyrexian Zoo- WVial KnightsStandard:
BW Knights(Rotated)Pioneer: RW Knights - BW Rally Zombies - UW Heroes
Commander:WUG
Jenara, Asura of War- WGSigarda, Host of HeronsCasualties of economicsLegacy: Good-night, sweet prince. Mono-R Burn
1x Brushland
1x Horizon Canopy
4x Temple Garden
4x Razorverge Thicket
2x Stirring Wildwood
3x Forest
2x Plains
21 Lands
4x Noble Hierarch
4x Leonin Arbiter
4x Charming Prince
3x Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
2x Thalia, Heretic Cathar
3x Loxodon Smiter
4x Knight of Autumn
4x Restoration Angel
4x Aether Vial
4x Path to Exile
3x Dromoka's Command
11 Spells
4x Leyline of Sanctity
2x Settle the wreckage
2x Rest In Peace
3x Damping Sphere
1x Raking Canopy
I have built it whit you.
Why 3x Dromoka's Command?
Thing in the Ice, and Burn.
Why 2x Settle the wreckage and 1x Raking Canopy?
Merfolks, Spirits and ELVES ELVES ELVES, my favorite pairing...
Why 2x Qasali Pridemage and 4x Knight of Autumn?
Because it is Stoneforge Mystic, Ensnaring Bridge and Affinity...
What is the biggest problem?
I hope to stop the great creatures whit Ghost Quarter and Arbiter Leonin, because I feel we have few threats->
3x Loxodon Smiter, 4x Restoration Angel, 4x Knight of Autumn (whit two counter)... the rest gryzzly bear or so I feel.
Is the Deck that I liked the most.
I only have a one doubt.
2x Qasali Pridemage or 2x Eternal Witness or 2x Big Thalia
Being able to return path to exile or dromoka's command can be made powerful.
could you convince me?
"Exalted" is another thing I like about Qasali.
Turn 2 Big Thalia it can be a great threat
so I have left
2x Qasali Pridemage
or
2x Eternal Witness
or
2x Big Thalia
I've finally decided on Thalia, because I like the interruption.
It is also more powerful whit Dromoka's Command first strike is important and Thalia (1+1) 4/3 with first strike she can beat
many creatures.
But it is a difficult decisión
How do I speak my english is not very good sorry, I like to read your
Pridemage is a good man; in most applications KoA outclasses him but the exalted can be good and there are Enters-the-Battlefield hate cards, e.g. Tocatli Honor Guard and Torpor Orb. These don't seem very popular but they exist.
Dromoka's Command doesn't seem particularly well suited to deal with Thing in the Ice // Awoken Horror. A Scryb Ranger or a Skylasher would be much more fun. Okay, that last bit wasn't entirely serious. Flickerwisp can reset Thing. I've used Runed Halo to name Awoken Horror. Things such as Blessed Alliance can be used to tackle fatties such as the horror.
I've been playing with one Big Thalia, but I haven't played many games. I don't currently have Pridemages - they've been replaced by KoA - or W-Wit but both are respectable cards.
You might try a split of Wrath of God and Settle the Wreckage. They'll catch on to the Settle pretty quickly, although then you can bluff them by holding up four mana - make a show of counting it for them when you do this. They'll be mindful of it after they've been blown out once.
This is one of my favorite decks but it's mainly due to Flickwisp and Vial; they are so much fun together. I just wouldn't play it without Flickerwisp.
Eldrazi and Taxes is more popular and actually played some, or so I'm led to believe. There is a Facebook group for Modern Death and Taxes/Hate Bears Competitive Magic.
Facebook posts are a lousy way to discuss cards, but there are more people active there.
Frenzy-Affinity-Ghost Quarter-Rock-Tokens- RGWPhyrexian Zoo- WVial KnightsStandard:
BW Knights(Rotated)Pioneer: RW Knights - BW Rally Zombies - UW Heroes
Commander:WUG
Jenara, Asura of War- WGSigarda, Host of HeronsCasualties of economicsLegacy: Good-night, sweet prince. Mono-R Burn
1x Brushland
1x Horizon Canopy
4x Temple Garden
4x Razorverge Thicket
2x Stirring Wildwood
3x Forest
2x Plains
21 Lands
4x Noble Hierarch
4x Leonin Arbiter
4x Charming Prince
3x Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
1x Blade Splicer
2x Thalia, Heretic Cathar
3x Loxodon Smiter
4x Knight of Autumn
4x Restoration Angel
4x Aether Vial
4x Path to Exile
1x Gideon of the Trials
1x Huatli, Radiant Champion
10 Spells
4x Leyline of Sanctity
2x Settle the wreckage
2x Rest In Peace
3x Damping Sphere
1x Worship
Huatli can be fun hahahaha
Gideon of Trials is fun
Blade Splicer is having fun with Restoration Angel and Charming Prince
I want to try Huatli, so I close the deck I'll put results