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Oh, I thought he was talking about playing a spell that is countering a spell with counters on it as it comes into play, but I see you guys were just discussing whether he was flashing a creature with flash in order to flash a flashback or just flashing a creature with flash but not needing flash in order to flashback a spell without flash.
Quote from NabbydianPersonally I'll go for 4 Snapcaster Mage, flashbacking an Glimpse the Unthinkable, Mind Funeral or Mind Sculpt is probable and simply insane.
Should we play Devastation Tide? In mill decks, we frequently find ourselves unable to handle the threats opponents put onto the board. The only permanents I'm willing to run will only be Snapcaster Mage, and bouncing the whole board back will buy us plenty of time. Bouncing our own Snapcaster to flashback another Mill spell again? Sick!!!
Quote from kylarYeah thats why i added in a devastation tide to bounce the snapcaster mage back and then using it to flashback another mill spell. =D
Quote from SpinDashMasterBitter Ordeal does not work in this theme, because it refers to permanents, and not permanent cards. Mill won't accelerate Gravestorm.
Also, where's Broken Ambitions?
Quote from DOLZeroI think 4x Extraction and 4x Extirpate is overdoing it a bit. Maybe 4 Extraction and 2 Extirpate would be a good balance.
Also, Damnation? Beats the crap out of bounce sweepers like Evacuation and Tide.
Quote from ganderin_danYou guys should be following Tom around like he's Moses or something.
Quote from kylarSplashed abit of white for oblivion rings, so the deck layout is something like :
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Land (22)4x Drowned Catacomb3x Evolving Wilds4x Ghost Quarter1x Glacial Fortress3x Island2x Isolated Chapel2x Jwar Isle Refuge3x Swamp4x Archive Trap4x Thought Scour2x Visions of Beyond2x Devastation Tide4x Glimpse the Unthinkable2x Haunting Echoes4x Mind Funeral3x Sadistic Sacrament3x Hedron Crab3x Invisible Stalker3x Snapcaster Mage2x Oblivion Ring2x Sword of Body and Mind
What do you guys think? Stick to U/B or go W/U/B?
Quote from Freakonature00W/U/B is too hard on the current mana base, especially if you're playing Sadistic Sacrament. BBB is gonna be a dead card in your hand almost always so just drop that and play something else. Some shocklands and more fetches to utilise Hedron Crab too.
I suggest just dropping the mid-game plan of Invisible Stalker and Sword of Body and Mind for 4 of each of Snapcaster Mage and Hedron Crab. Dragging out a game wouldn't work out very well for the strategy.
And by the looks of this, the crabs are just gonna eat all the removal since they're pretty much your only creatures that 'need' to stay on the battlefield. The Snaps are just to recur your mill spells so eating removal wouldn't matter. I'm beginning to think that playing the crabs are just wasting the slots. Will it be better for them to have dead removals in game 1 then board in the crabs when they remove their removals game 2?
Also, drop the Oblivion Rings for Path to Exile cause they work great with Archive Trap. O-Ring wouldn't work very well as, again, you don't wanna be dragging a game too long. You probably can't too, with all the aggro decks around.
Quote from MemoryLapseYou need an answer for Leyline of Sanctity. Its a very common sideboard card and in theory you opponent could just mulligan to it on games 2-3 and watch you scoop.
Quote from DOLZeroSnapcaster is a terrible idea. Twincast is much better since you can't flashback archive trap without having to pay 5.