Quote from SMERBECK »Magnus, excellent write-up. My next question to you or really anyone else involves spellskites. I sorta went half-in on the skite plan and currently have two in my board. They've over-performed to be honest. What are your thoughts on this card (and wild defiance) against certain decks.
Quote from MrPhysics13 »@Ultra_Magnus
Excellent report, and I appreciated hearing from someone who switched to mono-green for non-budgetary reasons. An oft repeated mantra of people who have a lot of experience playing the deck has been that it has a long game/is not simply a "glass cannon" (debates about exactly what glass cannon means aside)
This has also been my experience, playing with the U/G version, with notable exception of the combo mirror vs storm or similar.
Quote from MrPhysics13 »I hope to get your opinion on why the mono-green list you piloted cannot be improved by the addition of fetchlands/hierarch/more colors.
Quote from Ultra_Magnus »I think that running 4 Cathedral of War makes it more suited to a MonoG list, since the deck is running 8 land that tap for colorless. In a way, Cathedral is taking the place of Noble Hierarch in this list. Hierarch is more susceptible to removal, but Cathedral rarely gets removed. This makes accumulating exalted triggers over the course of a long game more reliable.
Then there is the consideration of non-basic/fetch land hate such as Blood Moon, Shadow of Doubt, Leonin Arbiter, Aven Mindcensor and Suppression Field. The MonoG list has certain advantages here against these cards, not to mention taking zero damage from the mana base.
Quote from Horrible_At_magic »I like playing my premium deck foil slivers deck in between rounds, doesn't mean I'm going to top 8 a gap anytime soon with it.
Quote from Darth Squirtle »For me the exalted trigger's are a bonus to what else the card can do, not the sole reason to run a card, i run hierarch over birds because she has the exalted trigger but to me that's a nice bonus to her ability to produce the 3 colors
Quote from Darth Squirtle »My main issue is how many spellskites have started showing up in my meta, every deck is either running them MD or bringing them in for G2 except for burn.
Quote from Ultra_Magnus »I would so like to fit Slaughterhorn in the list somehow too, since it can't be redirected by Spellskite or countered, but I have never been able to fit it in. Although it would be hilarious winning against an opposing kite with Slaughterhorn and a pile of exalted triggers!
Quote from SMERBECK »Also I read something earlier about as more in-depth bug INFECT primer and I'd love to hear more details from people who play that. I wanna get more of a representation of the difference in play styles between monogreen and BUG. Also, since waterd placed high with monoblack infect a few weeks back has there been anybody else messing with that? I really liked how oppressive it was.
Quote from Waterd »The only reason I would splash back is for phyrexian crusader and something like thoughtseize. Maybe abrupt decay?
Quote from DrWorm »...but the pure power of GUB is just nasty.
Quote from SMERBECK »Also I read something earlier about as more in-depth bug INFECT primer and I'd love to hear more details from people who play that. I wanna get more of a representation of the difference in play styles between monogreen and BUG.
Quote from MrENigmas »Quote from Horrible_At_magic »I like playing my premium deck foil slivers deck in between rounds, doesn't mean I'm going to top 8 a gap anytime soon with it.
No, no you won't. But piloting mono~green infect, you could most certainly place in the top 8. Hence the argument that the deck could be viable, as opposed to "premium deck foil slivers deck".
Quote from Horrible_At_magic »slaughter horn can be countered! it can have the target switched! and it is not a good card for the deck. Neither is ghor clan or whatever standard trash you're trying to jam into a half baked infect deck to lower the price of a t2 deck
Quote from Ultra_Magnus »I think it is good that Mono Green Cathedral has surfaced as something new in the infect universe and prompted discussions. I look at MonoG, UGx and BG as all viable competitive options. There is no doubt though that UGx does have some serious raw power
Quote from izzetmage »The mono-green version actually has fewer mana sources than BUG (22 land vs 20 land + 4 Hierarch), but fewer green sources (14 vs 16, 20 if you count Hierarch). The other thing about Hierarch is that it accelerates your mana, so you get to unload your hand faster.