Quote from from="Flipdipple »" url="/forums/the-game/modern/established-modern/aggro-tempo/767834-collected-company-elves? Secondly, as I am Jund what"s the opinion on running the following in the sb as some really hard answers. [deck=SIDEBOARD »
1x Temple Garden
2x Rest in Peace
2x Stony Silence[/deck]
Any constructive criticism is appreciated. This is my current list. The Verdant's will be Heath's, just borrowing Catacombs for now as I get everything.
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If you ask me, you need at least 9 white sources if you want to play rip and Stony turn 2 often and consistent enough.
Here is the issue with this new card. You dropped an Archdruid, Ezuri, and Shaman for them. I wouldn’t do that. Ever. Lol
Archdruid is one of the best cards in the deck, Ezuri wins games and Shaman can get you the oops I won CoCo. Steel gets you a vanilla beater.
I totally agree. Eventually he can remove three cards among the two prowess the two lead or the two chord
The two Prowess aren't in the deck. They are maybe board and I haven't decided if I like it or not. Chord is an absolute must so you can dig for a specific elf when you need it. I think maybe the Leads need to come out.
@kauridt I figured it was stretching it a bit, but 6 technical sources of W is a little thin and don't want to be over working the base to force a 4th color.
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Current Decks Standard : WB Orzhov Vampires BWGUB Sultai Constrictor BUG Brawl : GB Hapatra, Vizier of Poisons BG Modern : GB Golgari Elves BGGR Atarka Goblins RG Pauper : W Heroic WGB Delve BG
Here is the issue with this new card. You dropped an Archdruid, Ezuri, and Shaman for them. I wouldn’t do that. Ever. Lol
Archdruid is one of the best cards in the deck, Ezuri wins games and Shaman can get you the oops I won CoCo. Steel gets you a vanilla beater.
I totally agree. Eventually he can remove three cards among the two prowess the two lead or the two chord
The two Prowess aren't in the deck. They are maybe board and I haven't decided if I like it or not. Chord is an absolute must so you can dig for a specific elf when you need it. I think maybe the Leads need to come out.
Yes, sorry. I haven't see the maybeboard
I see now that you have changed the deck.
Up to me now is better even if I will insert the fourth SOTP for a Nettle. I have some doubt on the sideboard (2 choke are not too much? 1 single graveyard hate?) but it strongly depends on your meta
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Also two lands that does not produce G is risky
Yeah, I haven't changed SB or any part of the deck since GP Las Vegas last summer until yesterday. The SB would need more work when I go back to a competitive event. I added Urborg since the deck had a lot of black SB cards. Westvale was added because of the ton of sweepers last summer. I would likely take both of those out now and a fourth Blooming Marsh and third Palace.
A 3 mana 5/4 elf that can't be blocked by creatures with power 2 or less.
No downside.
What...
It is a little complicated for several reasons if you ask me. I think the normal build relies on more three drops than we can handle already given Elvish Archdruid, Ezuri, Renegade Leader, and potentially Elvish Champion. So many of our creatures are really built on the premise of having some sort of anthem at the top of our curve that I worry that in a traditional build they might be a little odd.
It is possible that I could see throwing one in the list for a company tutor potential but even that seems a little sketchy if you ask me. In builds where we are swarming and mass buffing I think its a little harder to justify to be honest. I like the new card and I think it could actually be a lot of fun but I also think that you really need to be looking at a fundamentally differently built deck to justify it. You have to shift from swarm with anthems to something that cares more about individual attackers and chip damage attacks rather than combo.
I will probably try to play with it a bit myself but I think it might look a bit different fundamentally.
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I have officially moved to MTGNexus. I just wanted to let people know as my response time to salvation decks being bumped is very hit or miss.
Anyone else prefer Lead over chord in this Jund heavy meta? I run 3 lead 4 company in my GB build and find the Jund matchup to be very one sided. They really have no response for a lead that has resolved. With no real silver bullets in the side minus the rec sages (which you can win without against most of the decks you bring them in against because of SOTP) does GB even realistically need chords?
I am happy with BBE. Deck seems to be faster and more aggresive due to third turn 3/2 haster hitting one more Elf or Lead. I don't miss white SB at all and Chord always seemed clunky for me. As for the boardwipes I am trying to be faster than them, hit them via Thoughtseize or reinforce the board with BBE into Lead into 3-4 more Elves. I will definetely test Steel Leaf Champion just trying to find a slot or two for him.
Think I’m gonna stick with BG Elves for now and leave BBE in my Jund deck. I was playing solitaire last night with the deck and had forgotten how stupid good it is. I think I’m gonna run it this Wednesday at my LGS. It’s been awhile though and could use some help. I want to make sure everything is still relevant. I’d like y’all’s opinions.
I like the MB Scooze and effectively have three copies with the Chords. The card is essential sometimes. Still trying out the Elves of Deep Shadow in that flex spot. If might be replaced with Gnarlroot Trapper or the third Visionary. I have liked having the 9th dork though as well as an extra B source for Shaman and SB cards, which is why I’m running the Llanowar Wastes instead of the fourth Cavern of Souls or second Horizon Canopy. I want to reliably have B sources for my SB cards, as well as for multiple Shamans if need be.
I’ve been very happy with the 2/2 split of Lead/Chord.
The SB is very tentative. I’d love some advice on it. Honestly I’d like to run 4x Thoughtseize and 3x Nihil Spellbomb to shore up the combo MU’s. A second Abrupt Decay would be nice too. I think I have the fair decks pretty well beat. Garruk Relentless is awesome tech that someone brought up awhile back and I’ve used him since with great results for grindy/control MU’s, but I don’t know that he’s necessary. I like the split between Shapers’ Sanctuary and Prowess of the Fair, but I wonder if Sanctuary should be an Evolutionary Leap instead? Maybe I would run something like:
I appreciate any and all help/advice. Thanks I’m advance. I’m looking forward to running this deck again. I’ve been running Jund every tournament for awhile now.
All of these Jund lists omit Elvish Visionary. That makes me sad. Lol. I have 4 of the FNM promo ones, I want to use them
I'm still an advocate for Visionary in Jund and it's not because I also have promo Visionaries but because of why it's in most lists in the first place - especially in lists that have made it to top 8 in GPs. I currently run 3 which feels like the perfect number after tons of play testing. To put it in a bigger picture, my list has 15 2for1s between CoCo, BBE, Dwynen's, and Visionary which is 1/4 of the deck. This is a strong ratio to have. Granted, I also run a 1of Lead for more value but it's a flex spot that I might change into a 19th land or 3rd ezuri.
TL;DR: Visionary remains a good card for many reasons; running Jund does not change its viability.
Sylvan Recruiter - 1(G)
Elf Warrior
Reveal cards from the top of your library until you reveal an elf creature spell 3 mana or less. You may put that elf creature onto the battlefield, put the rest into the graveyard.
2/2
Too good? Lol.
Thinking of a new elf that could take us up a tier.
Here is what I am considering at the moment - https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/12-06-17-fWM-gb-elves/
Here is the issue with this new card. You dropped an Archdruid, Ezuri, and Shaman for them. I wouldn’t do that. Ever. Lol
Archdruid is one of the best cards in the deck, Ezuri wins games and Shaman can get you the oops I won CoCo. Steel gets you a vanilla beater.
If you ask me, you need at least 9 white sources if you want to play rip and Stony turn 2 often and consistent enough.
The two Prowess aren't in the deck. They are maybe board and I haven't decided if I like it or not. Chord is an absolute must so you can dig for a specific elf when you need it. I think maybe the Leads need to come out.
Current Decks
Standard : WB Orzhov Vampires BW GUB Sultai Constrictor BUG
Brawl : GB Hapatra, Vizier of Poisons BG
Modern : GB Golgari Elves BG GR Atarka Goblins RG
Pauper : W Heroic W GB Delve BG
Yeah, I haven't changed SB or any part of the deck since GP Las Vegas last summer until yesterday. The SB would need more work when I go back to a competitive event. I added Urborg since the deck had a lot of black SB cards. Westvale was added because of the ton of sweepers last summer. I would likely take both of those out now and a fourth Blooming Marsh and third Palace.
It is a little complicated for several reasons if you ask me. I think the normal build relies on more three drops than we can handle already given Elvish Archdruid, Ezuri, Renegade Leader, and potentially Elvish Champion. So many of our creatures are really built on the premise of having some sort of anthem at the top of our curve that I worry that in a traditional build they might be a little odd.
It is possible that I could see throwing one in the list for a company tutor potential but even that seems a little sketchy if you ask me. In builds where we are swarming and mass buffing I think its a little harder to justify to be honest. I like the new card and I think it could actually be a lot of fun but I also think that you really need to be looking at a fundamentally differently built deck to justify it. You have to shift from swarm with anthems to something that cares more about individual attackers and chip damage attacks rather than combo.
I will probably try to play with it a bit myself but I think it might look a bit different fundamentally.
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[Modern] Allies
Make mana by putting -1 counters, pump with Ezuri, and them you can put more counters on.
What are the minimum requirement needed for this (2 Druids and Ezuri?) and what different set of creatures can you use it on?
BLiliana, Heretical HealerB| |GTitania, Protector of ArgothG
GWBDoom Plane EnchantressBWG
Flying
You, planeswalkers you control, and other creatures you control have hexproof.
4GG: Put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control.
Way too clunky.
Can't be hit by company and the pump effect doesnt do anything.
Play Selfless Spirit if you want some protection.
Modern:
Heartless Gitrog
Pauper:
Zombies
Delve
Canadian Thresh
Here’s the list as it stands atm:
4x Llanowar Elves (foil 7th )
4x Elvish Mystic
1x Elves of Deep Shadow
4x Nettle Sentinel
4x Heritage Druid
4x Dwynen’s Elite
2x Elvish Visionary
1x Scavenging Ooze
4x Elvish Archdruid
4x Shaman of the Pack
2x Ezuri, Renegade Leader
4x Collected Company
2x Lead the Stampede
2x Chord of Calling
Lands (18)
4x Blooming Marsh
4x Gilt-Leaf Palace
3x Cavern of Souls
3x Forest
1x Pendelhaven
1x Horizon Canopy
1x Llanowar Wastes
1x Westvale Abbey
1x Elvish Champion (Foil 7th)
1x Glissa, the Traitor
1x Chameleon Colossus
2x Garruk Relentless
2x Fracturing Gust
1x Abrupt Decay
3x Thoughtseize
2x Nihil Spellbomb
1x Prowess of the Fair
1x Shapers’ Sanctuary
I like the MB Scooze and effectively have three copies with the Chords. The card is essential sometimes. Still trying out the Elves of Deep Shadow in that flex spot. If might be replaced with Gnarlroot Trapper or the third Visionary. I have liked having the 9th dork though as well as an extra B source for Shaman and SB cards, which is why I’m running the Llanowar Wastes instead of the fourth Cavern of Souls or second Horizon Canopy. I want to reliably have B sources for my SB cards, as well as for multiple Shamans if need be.
I’ve been very happy with the 2/2 split of Lead/Chord.
The SB is very tentative. I’d love some advice on it. Honestly I’d like to run 4x Thoughtseize and 3x Nihil Spellbomb to shore up the combo MU’s. A second Abrupt Decay would be nice too. I think I have the fair decks pretty well beat. Garruk Relentless is awesome tech that someone brought up awhile back and I’ve used him since with great results for grindy/control MU’s, but I don’t know that he’s necessary. I like the split between Shapers’ Sanctuary and Prowess of the Fair, but I wonder if Sanctuary should be an Evolutionary Leap instead? Maybe I would run something like:
4x Thoughtseize
3x Nihil Spellbomb
2x Fracturing Gust
2x Abrupt Decay
1x Prowess of the Fair
1x Evolutionary Leap
1x Lead the Stampede
1x Elvish Champion
Should Spellbomb be Relic? Is so, why?
I appreciate any and all help/advice. Thanks I’m advance. I’m looking forward to running this deck again. I’ve been running Jund every tournament for awhile now.
BRGJUNDGRB---BRHOLLOW ONERB---BGELVESGB---BRGLIVING ENDGRB---GWBOGLESWG
EDH:
BRGKARRTHUS, TYRANT OF JUNDGRB
I'm still an advocate for Visionary in Jund and it's not because I also have promo Visionaries but because of why it's in most lists in the first place - especially in lists that have made it to top 8 in GPs. I currently run 3 which feels like the perfect number after tons of play testing. To put it in a bigger picture, my list has 15 2for1s between CoCo, BBE, Dwynen's, and Visionary which is 1/4 of the deck. This is a strong ratio to have. Granted, I also run a 1of Lead for more value but it's a flex spot that I might change into a 19th land or 3rd ezuri.
TL;DR: Visionary remains a good card for many reasons; running Jund does not change its viability.
GBRJund Elves
GWDevoted Elves
WDeath & Taxes
GWUBRHumans
EDH:
GTitania, Protector of Argoth
Elf Warrior
Reveal cards from the top of your library until you reveal an elf creature spell 3 mana or less. You may put that elf creature onto the battlefield, put the rest into the graveyard.
2/2
Too good? Lol.
Thinking of a new elf that could take us up a tier.