Quote from D90Dennis14 »Maybe Macabre Waltz can work to get back creatures but all these options probably aren't efficient enough to be worth it.
Quote from Garrettv1 »Really want to play this deck this weekend but I have no idea how to sideboard with it. What do I pull out when I bring in cards? What is something I never pull out etc?
Quote from stonecrowe »Quote from Garrettv1 »Really want to play this deck this weekend but I have no idea how to sideboard with it. What do I pull out when I bring in cards? What is something I never pull out etc?
If you are referring to the black red build, the flex slots are generally the collective brutality/ lightning bolt slots. If you swap out too much elsewhere you start to dilute the main gameplan.
Collective brutality is less easy to cut, as it is a great discard outlet, but there are matchups where it is low enough impact that you may need to swap them out.
I've been conflicted on what graveyard hate to run. I've been using Tormod's Crypt lately, while admittedly weaker in a vaccuum than lots of stuff, I find that this deck uses all it's mana almost every turn. Taking a whole early turn off to play GY hate doesn't seem ideal when our early turns are so crucial to out-racing. Leyline of the Void is an option, but with how much the deck draws through itself you will end up with excess copies in hand that you'll have to hope to discard away later.
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Further, I am wondering about your 4 Flamewake Phoenices. I have 2 and I like them, but isn't 4 not a bit too many? In BR Hollow One most decks run 4, but they don't need to revive Vengevine.
Quote from Tucker_Fleabane »I think perhaps the hollow one vengevine deck should have its own thread this deck is doing something different then the hollow one deck imo.