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Quote from chaos021 »Quote from rcwraspy »I don't believe that's the case any longer. Tron, Scapeshift, Amulet, UW Control, and Lantern are all poised to be good now and all have positive matchups against Jund. Burn is still good and I believe that matchup slightly favors Burn. Affinity has morphed into a harder deck to beat with Hardened Scales. Jund has a positive matchupu against Storm, but that isn't overly prevalent right now. Humans and Spirits are probably 50/50 - Jund does well against creature decks but those 2 decks pack a lot of disruption on the bodies, which brings the matchups closer. Lantern is a bad matchup?? How?? Also, Tron is definitely 50/50.
Quote from rcwraspy »I don't believe that's the case any longer. Tron, Scapeshift, Amulet, UW Control, and Lantern are all poised to be good now and all have positive matchups against Jund. Burn is still good and I believe that matchup slightly favors Burn. Affinity has morphed into a harder deck to beat with Hardened Scales. Jund has a positive matchupu against Storm, but that isn't overly prevalent right now. Humans and Spirits are probably 50/50 - Jund does well against creature decks but those 2 decks pack a lot of disruption on the bodies, which brings the matchups closer.
Quote from pzbw7z »Quote from user-1074066 » NoSB and Ishkanah were for testing. I didnt like NoSB, would have rather had another Anger vs Elves, maybe its better vs scales affinity instead of Anger, not sure. Many GBx players are playing Languish these days. It's really good versus Spirits in particular as well as the other go-wide decks. It is often still Goyf-friendly as well.
Quote from user-1074066 » NoSB and Ishkanah were for testing. I didnt like NoSB, would have rather had another Anger vs Elves, maybe its better vs scales affinity instead of Anger, not sure.
Quote from user-1074066 »Quote from pzbw7z »Quote from user-1074066 » NoSB and Ishkanah were for testing. I didnt like NoSB, would have rather had another Anger vs Elves, maybe its better vs scales affinity instead of Anger, not sure. Many GBx players are playing Languish these days. It's really good versus Spirits in particular as well as the other go-wide decks. It is often still Goyf-friendly as well. Whats the upside of playing Languish instead of Damnation besides the slight chance Goyf might surive? The downside of languish is also the chance your opponents creatures are too big. Also Spirits play like 1 selfless spirits in the sideboard
Quote from SpinifexV »Quote from user-1074066 »Quote from pzbw7z »Quote from user-1074066 » NoSB and Ishkanah were for testing. I didnt like NoSB, would have rather had another Anger vs Elves, maybe its better vs scales affinity instead of Anger, not sure. Many GBx players are playing Languish these days. It's really good versus Spirits in particular as well as the other go-wide decks. It is often still Goyf-friendly as well. Whats the upside of playing Languish instead of Damnation besides the slight chance Goyf might surive? The downside of languish is also the chance your opponents creatures are too big. Also Spirits play like 1 selfless spirits in the sideboard There are several upsides. Sometimes, your Goyfs and Oozes can survive Languish, it can hit indestructible creatures or creatures with regeneration (not played a lot right not, but Thrun and Hazoret have seen play), Meddling Mage can only name one of your two sweepers, and UW Spirits does run 3-4 Selfless Spirits. It also costs a lot less than Damnation. It makes sense to run 1 copy each of Damnation and Languish if you run two sweepers.
Quote from user-1074066 »Quote from SpinifexV »Quote from user-1074066 »Quote from pzbw7z »Quote from user-1074066 » NoSB and Ishkanah were for testing. I didnt like NoSB, would have rather had another Anger vs Elves, maybe its better vs scales affinity instead of Anger, not sure. Many GBx players are playing Languish these days. It's really good versus Spirits in particular as well as the other go-wide decks. It is often still Goyf-friendly as well. Whats the upside of playing Languish instead of Damnation besides the slight chance Goyf might surive? The downside of languish is also the chance your opponents creatures are too big. Also Spirits play like 1 selfless spirits in the sideboard There are several upsides. Sometimes, your Goyfs and Oozes can survive Languish, it can hit indestructible creatures or creatures with regeneration (not played a lot right not, but Thrun and Hazoret have seen play), Meddling Mage can only name one of your two sweepers, and UW Spirits does run 3-4 Selfless Spirits. It also costs a lot less than Damnation. It makes sense to run 1 copy each of Damnation and Languish if you run two sweepers. Fair enough, though Damnation also doesnt let creatures regenarate. Im just scared this wont kill Angler, Tasigur, Reality Smasher, big Balista, Hangerback or Ravagers. I think the only upside is dodging selfless spirit, the money cost and the slight chance your scooze or goyf survive. Seems alright.
Quote from cfremont » Cherry on top would be the keyword you "May" exile them to get Dredge when Kalitas isn't out and to get Zombies when he is.
Quote from pzbw7z »Quote from cfremont » Cherry on top would be the keyword you "May" exile them to get Dredge when Kalitas isn't out and to get Zombies when he is. When there are two replacement effects, doesn't the player who controls the effects get to choose which one is used?
Quote from chaos021 »Quote from pzbw7z »Quote from cfremont » Cherry on top would be the keyword you "May" exile them to get Dredge when Kalitas isn't out and to get Zombies when he is. When there are two replacement effects, doesn't the player who controls the effects get to choose which one is used? True. If there are multiple replacement effects, the owner of the object chooses which one will affect it.
Quote from chaos021 »But Kalitas doesn't affect your creatures
Quote from chaos021 »Quote from Ceaucescu »I thought there would be way more activity on here since the banning. I'm not sure why people think it's a bad thing for Jund though? If someone can try and explain that to me? Affinity is a fine matchup if that rises again. We can tune to a heavier burn meta. Pulse of Murasa is a surprisingly playable card And if we're expecting whir and affinity and hardened scales, Night of Souls' Betrayal looks really good, honestly. It's also good against dredge - makes the only relevant threats into 4 2/2's which is beatable. Against spirits it's nice, too. They have a lot of mopey creatures. Not great against humans, but not sure which I'm expecting more of right now between that and spirits as the disruptive aggro deck of the format I've never been sold on Ishkanah. I'd rather play Pia and Kiran for a similar effect at a lower mana cost and a more relevant ability. People already bring in some grave hate against us Pulse of Murasa is an "expensive" card CMC-wise for a matchup that gets done in a hurry. If we were worried about Burn, I think we should play more Collective Brutality and move on with life. Night of Souls' Betrayal is great at stopping those decks' common mode of winning (via x/1's), but it doesn't win the game and can still be played around. I would rather play Kalitas to shut down the modular triggers instead (as well as Hangarback Walker's trigger). Even then, those decks can still outpace you fairly easily even when they're on the draw.
Quote from Ceaucescu »I thought there would be way more activity on here since the banning. I'm not sure why people think it's a bad thing for Jund though? If someone can try and explain that to me? Affinity is a fine matchup if that rises again. We can tune to a heavier burn meta. Pulse of Murasa is a surprisingly playable card And if we're expecting whir and affinity and hardened scales, Night of Souls' Betrayal looks really good, honestly. It's also good against dredge - makes the only relevant threats into 4 2/2's which is beatable. Against spirits it's nice, too. They have a lot of mopey creatures. Not great against humans, but not sure which I'm expecting more of right now between that and spirits as the disruptive aggro deck of the format I've never been sold on Ishkanah. I'd rather play Pia and Kiran for a similar effect at a lower mana cost and a more relevant ability. People already bring in some grave hate against us
Quote from cfremont »Quote from chaos021 »Quote from pzbw7z »Quote from cfremont » Cherry on top would be the keyword you "May" exile them to get Dredge when Kalitas isn't out and to get Zombies when he is. When there are two replacement effects, doesn't the player who controls the effects get to choose which one is used? True. If there are multiple replacement effects, the owner of the object chooses which one will affect it. If it's a forced effect like it is now, than the other play may choose which effect exiles them. However if Anger of the God's said you "may" exile them instead, it's your card, you cast it, and you can choose if you wanted to exile them or not. If you choose not, than Kalitas's not-may ability forces the exile and you would get zombies and your opponent would have no say. That was my point, wishing for a sweeper where the exile was a "may."
Quote from Ceaucescu »How deep do we want to go on these graveyard decks? I'm thinking of playing two surgicals in the main right now Cutting maybe a bolt and a push bringing me down to 3 and 2, respectively Brainstorming for GP Toronto this weekend