I feel like everybody who is upset about this banning has never playing a high level Modern event.
I feel like anyone who says this has never taken time to consider how easily this deck would have been hated out of the meta. Just keep piling the unnecessary bans on, WotC. I don't even like combo and care little about it, but they're seriously ****ing up the ebb and flow of control, aggro, combo.
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Mhjames: mtgsalvation: I DON'T SEE HOW THIS CARD IS GOOD. I KNOW PATRICK CHAPIN USED IT AND WENT 8-0, BUT THAT WAS A SMALL TOURNAMENT. THE CARD IS TOO SLOW. YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE THE OPPONENT HAS A SPELL IN THE GRAVEYARD
More bans like this will make many people quit this format honestly, its depressing
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Decks I have in my bag of tricks- Needless to say, someone who wants to play will probably have a deck UB/x Faeries UR Storm XURWB Affinity G Elves UW control
It is. This is the annoucement that modern wil be forever a degenerated and boring midrange format.
Time to settle up to legacy for me, as far it seems that neither combo or control will be ever playable in this crybaby format.
Reprints the one card that people point to when saying that art objectifies women.
Well done Wizards.
Liliana does not objectify women in any way at all. We have gotten to a point in our society that every single picture of a women must be objectifying a women in some negative way......blah blah blah.. That is not the case. (((Sarcasm)))Picture of a girl drinking a milk shake, must be sex related and putting women down, picture of girl sitting on a beach, picture of a girl driving a car, picture of a girl on the moon at a new space station.)))
You have a picture of an attractive strong power women who girls dress up as for anime conventions. What more do you want? The picture is fine, happy to see a reprint. Sick of of seeing people claim that everything in existence must be putting women down. Then all I have to do is replace the word "women" with anything else to get the same mentality; fish, cats, arabs, blacks, jews, men, environment, whites, chinese, old people, etc. It doesn't matter what word I put in. Stop sucking life out of everything man. That artwork of her is awesome. Stop putting stuff down man. Just stop. If the picture was really as negative as you claim she would totally nude, in a kitchen, making sandwiches and giving blow jobs. Her abilities would be horrible as well. +1 do nothing -2 do nothing -6 do nothing. Instead liliana of the veil is an amazing planeswalker comparable to jace, the mind sculpter with great art to appreciate.
My suggestion listen to some comedy radio for a while, pandora is free, youtube is free there is something out there for you. ***** go make fun of somebody. The whole world is so serious and campaigning for some cause, or someones rights, everything is a hate crime, racist, sexist. blah blah blah.
"O no mcdonalds must be slandering a hate crime against skinny people every time they make a big mac." hahaha jeeze You're just someone perpetuating another groups negative perspective that they've made you believe is correct. Look at the picture for a hour and tell me what's wrong with it? I don't see anything.
I have heard vague rumors of a moustache-dispensing vending machine in a distant laundromat, across the street from a tattoo parlor. However, this information is shaky, and time is of the essence.
it's not a power level ban it's a gameplay ban same reason top is banned
How does that make it right? This was not some incredibly degenerate deck that could not be dealt with .This was an ENGINE based combo deck (The weakest kind) that was easily hated out by a multitude of tools that effect other decks.
I'll state again since I'm sure you guys are going to be counter arguing with me about this, which is fine; but I do NOT play Eggs nor do I care about it. It's the simple concept of not giving us time to hate it out of existence.
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Mhjames: mtgsalvation: I DON'T SEE HOW THIS CARD IS GOOD. I KNOW PATRICK CHAPIN USED IT AND WENT 8-0, BUT THAT WAS A SMALL TOURNAMENT. THE CARD IS TOO SLOW. YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE THE OPPONENT HAS A SPELL IN THE GRAVEYARD
The only thing that happened was a single ban, no unbannings.
"Modern
Second Sunrise is banned."
Personally I am fine with this. As I said earlier, who actually enjoys playing against this deck?
Started playing Magic in Innistrad, does this mean I'm too new to the game to understand that it it's worth it for the player across from me to play a non-interactive deck for realistically 5-10 minutes on a single turn?
Sorry if you owned the deck, but it broke the turn 4 rule, was very non interactive, and in my opinion, was not fun to play against.
Finding something "unfun" is a bad argument, I'm just wondering why people are so whiny about this deck's banning?
i mean im happy to see eggs nerfed into ground and hardly playable anymore but come on thats all they came up with in 3 months! more stuff should have been unbanned!
I feel like anyone who says this has never taken time to consider how easily this deck would have been hated out of the meta. Just keep piling the unnecessary bans on, WotC. I don't even like combo and care little about it, but they're seriously ****ing up the ebb and flow of control, aggro, combo.
This. Km not an eggs hater or fan, the deck got irritating when I played against it...but then I searched for answers to add to my decks and tried to not complain, because stuff like this ruins the game
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Decks I have in my bag of tricks- Needless to say, someone who wants to play will probably have a deck UB/x Faeries UR Storm XURWB Affinity G Elves UW control
Can't the deck still be operational on faith's reward?
I don't know the deck very well so sorry if this is a dumb question
if by operational you mean the equivalent of Martyr Proc without Proclimation of Rebirth, the yeah, it's operational.
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Mhjames: mtgsalvation: I DON'T SEE HOW THIS CARD IS GOOD. I KNOW PATRICK CHAPIN USED IT AND WENT 8-0, BUT THAT WAS A SMALL TOURNAMENT. THE CARD IS TOO SLOW. YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE THE OPPONENT HAS A SPELL IN THE GRAVEYARD
It is. This is the annoucement that modern wil be forever a degenerated and boring midrange format.
Time to settle up to legacy for me, as far it seems that neither combo or control will be ever playable in this crybaby format.
So you are saying that Modern isn't for you and an existing format would better suit your playstyle? Amazing. I love Modern, and I like this change.
if by operational you mean the equivalent of Martyr Proc without Proclimation of Rebirth, the yeah, it's operational.
Well I mean the deck was fine before faith's reward came out, when it just had sunrise, and now it just has reward and no sunrise, does it really make it that much worse at 1 mana more?
How does that make it right? This was not some incredibly degenerate deck that could not be dealt with .This was an ENGINE based combo deck (The weakest kind) that was easily hated out by a multitude of tools that effect other decks.
I'll state again since I'm sure you guys are going to be counter arguing with me about this, which is fine; but I do NOT play Eggs nor do I care about it. It's the simple concept of not giving us time to hate it out of existence.
But even if ONE person plays the deck, even if they go 0-8, they are hurting every other player in the room by forcing rounds to go to time. You could also argue that everybody should get faster with the deck, but that isn't going to happen. Somebody will always play the deck if they can.
I feel like anyone who says this has never taken time to consider how easily this deck would have been hated out of the meta. Just keep piling the unnecessary bans on, WotC. I don't even like combo and care little about it, but they're seriously ****ing up the ebb and flow of control, aggro, combo.
Because even if the deck is bad, that doesn't mean that Eggs players will get the memo. Look at Legacy - people show up with terrible decks all the time.
The funny thing is that the deck will probably still exist, it will just be even slower now(time wise).
I hope not.
Eggs as a deck type is something that I feel needed to be in the format. The specter of combo decks are what make control decks viable and needed. But eggs just took. Too. Long. I hope a combo deck takes its place, and fast.
I love combo!
Just not eggs.
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What's the big deal? You could have played multiple Righteous Avengers for years now.
Second Sunrise does not surprise me at all after Kibler's famous and hilarious real-life F6. The deck was far from unbeatable but it made tournaments go well over time and simply drain anyone who was playing against it.
I am, however, very disappointed that there were no unbans. There are several cards that would be a positive impact on the format if they were unbanned as well. Very few decks feel powerful to play and the format as a whole is rather boring. I probably won't play any Modern until its PTQ season comes up again as a result.
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Well I mean the deck was fine before faith's reward came out, when it just had sunrise, and now it just has reward and no sunrise, does it really make it that much worse at 1 mana more?
the problem is that you can't just go off from one lotus bloom, now you need ghost quarter, a fetch land, or a second lotus bloom to go off.
Feelings from a small amount of players<<<<<running a tournament. Do you know how insane it is to have 10 rounds and have to add 10-15 minutes every round because of one deck?
Tournament integrity is better for that deck getting nerfed.
I feel like anyone who says this has never taken time to consider how easily this deck would have been hated out of the meta. Just keep piling the unnecessary bans on, WotC. I don't even like combo and care little about it, but they're seriously ****ing up the ebb and flow of control, aggro, combo.
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it's not a power level ban it's a gameplay ban same reason top is banned
UB/x Faeries
UR Storm
XURWB Affinity
G Elves
UW control
Time to settle up to legacy for me, as far it seems that neither combo or control will be ever playable in this crybaby format.
How does that make it right? This was not some incredibly degenerate deck that could not be dealt with .This was an ENGINE based combo deck (The weakest kind) that was easily hated out by a multitude of tools that effect other decks.
I'll state again since I'm sure you guys are going to be counter arguing with me about this, which is fine; but I do NOT play Eggs nor do I care about it. It's the simple concept of not giving us time to hate it out of existence.
By: ol MISAKA lo
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http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/244b2
The only thing that happened was a single ban, no unbannings.
"Modern
Second Sunrise is banned."
Personally I am fine with this. As I said earlier, who actually enjoys playing against this deck?
Started playing Magic in Innistrad, does this mean I'm too new to the game to understand that it it's worth it for the player across from me to play a non-interactive deck for realistically 5-10 minutes on a single turn?
Sorry if you owned the deck, but it broke the turn 4 rule, was very non interactive, and in my opinion, was not fun to play against.
Finding something "unfun" is a bad argument, I'm just wondering why people are so whiny about this deck's banning?
Can't the deck still be operational on faith's reward?
I don't know the deck very well so sorry if this is a dumb question
This. Km not an eggs hater or fan, the deck got irritating when I played against it...but then I searched for answers to add to my decks and tried to not complain, because stuff like this ruins the game
UB/x Faeries
UR Storm
XURWB Affinity
G Elves
UW control
if by operational you mean the equivalent of Martyr Proc without Proclimation of Rebirth, the yeah, it's operational.
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So you are saying that Modern isn't for you and an existing format would better suit your playstyle? Amazing. I love Modern, and I like this change.
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Well I mean the deck was fine before faith's reward came out, when it just had sunrise, and now it just has reward and no sunrise, does it really make it that much worse at 1 mana more?
But even if ONE person plays the deck, even if they go 0-8, they are hurting every other player in the room by forcing rounds to go to time. You could also argue that everybody should get faster with the deck, but that isn't going to happen. Somebody will always play the deck if they can.
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Because even if the deck is bad, that doesn't mean that Eggs players will get the memo. Look at Legacy - people show up with terrible decks all the time.
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I hope not.
Eggs as a deck type is something that I feel needed to be in the format. The specter of combo decks are what make control decks viable and needed. But eggs just took. Too. Long. I hope a combo deck takes its place, and fast.
I love combo!
Just not eggs.
I am, however, very disappointed that there were no unbans. There are several cards that would be a positive impact on the format if they were unbanned as well. Very few decks feel powerful to play and the format as a whole is rather boring. I probably won't play any Modern until its PTQ season comes up again as a result.
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the problem is that you can't just go off from one lotus bloom, now you need ghost quarter, a fetch land, or a second lotus bloom to go off.
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Tournament integrity is better for that deck getting nerfed.
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