The morning opener Shadow mirror was extremely painful to watch. Slow plays abound, watching Jessup and Ross stare at each other for 45 minutes because neither can attack and then watching Ross die to bricking for 7 turns while dealing himself 18 damage isn't exactly what I would call "enjoyable."
The morning opener Shadow mirror was extremely painful to watch. Slow plays abound, watching Jessup and Ross stare at each other for 45 minutes because neither can attack and then watching Ross die to bricking for 7 turns while dealing himself 18 damage isn't exactly what I would call "enjoyable."
To be fair, even the commentators commented on Ross' slow play. It really was the players slowing down the game.
Wait, a Bant Taking Turns list? You have a link? That sounds fun.
The SCG links don't work here, but if you go to the event on the SCG page, and the top 32 decklists, it's the Bant Turns by Ali Aintrazi, but under the Modern Classic, not the Open I believe.
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Legacy - Sneak Show, BR Reanimator, Miracles, UW Stoneblade
Premodern - Trix, RecSur, Enchantress, Reanimator, Elves https://www.facebook.com/groups/PremodernUSA/ Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander - Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build) (dead format for me)
Apparently a Dubious Challenge deck managed to Top16, I remember talk about it when the card was printed but it was very inconsistent and bad (there are much better ways to cheat in fatties, even Summoning Trap).
It reminds me of a worse version of the "Breaking // Entering Expertise" deck (before the rules change killed it).
Is no one interested in the SCG Invitational and Modern Open? I realize that the Inv. is split, so hopefully we'll see some Modern lists that did well. Also, I realize that the metagame can be somewhat inbred. The Modern Open won't have the top players that are still Day 2ing the Invitational.
Yet despite all this, I am interested in some Modern. Hopefully just to see how the metagame is shifting and not any talks of bannings.
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Legacy - Sneak Show, BR Reanimator, Miracles, UW Stoneblade
Premodern - Trix, RecSur, Enchantress, Reanimator, Elves https://www.facebook.com/groups/PremodernUSA/ Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander - Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build) (dead format for me)
Top 8 for the Invitational (remember, half the record is from Standard)
Lantern Control
Eldrazi Tron
Eldrazi Tron
Grixis Death's Shadow
Grixis Death's Shadow
Abzan (with Knight of the Reliquary and Bitterblossom??)
Burn
Death & Taxes
Well, Mono White Death and Taxes won. Grixis Shadow was 2nd. Interesting metas...
Invitational 7-1 or better.
1. GR Ponza
2. Jund
3. Lantern Control, top 8
4. Abzan with Bitterblossom and Knight of the Reliquary, top 8
5. Grixis Death's Shadow
6. Eldrazi Tron
7. Esper Death's Shadow
8. Colorless Eldrazi, our own Ashton Kutcher
9. Eldrazi Tron
10. Grixis Death's Shadow
11. BG Midrange
12. Affinity
13. Eldrazi Tron
14. Living End
15. RG Breach
Modern Open
1. Affinity
2. Grixis Death's Shadow
3. Merfolk
4. Affinity
5. Counters Company
6. Grixis Death's Shadow
7. Counters Company
8. Eldrazi Tron
9. Jeskai Control
10. WR Prison
11. UW Control
12. UW Control
13. Death and Taxes
14. Jeskai Control
15. Burn
16. Jeskai Control
Classic
1. Merfolk
2. GB Tron
3. GB Tron
4. UB Faeries
5. Bant Eldrazi
6. Jeskai Control
7. GR Tron
8. Abzan Traverse
Legacy - Sneak Show, BR Reanimator, Miracles, UW Stoneblade
Premodern - Trix, RecSur, Enchantress, Reanimator, Elves https://www.facebook.com/groups/PremodernUSA/ Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander - Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build) (dead format for me)
The meta is really interesting. I top 32'd (11-4, 25th place) with Jeskai Saheeli in the Modern Open this weekend, missing top 16 on breakers as there were a few 11-4s in the Top 16. There were tons of control decks throughout the day, which makes a Jeskai player like me very happy on the inside.
I think Modern is in a good spot and the diversity of archetypes in these events is also great to see, as it makes me hopeful for the future of Modern.
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The meta is really interesting. I top 32'd (11-4, 25th place) with Jeskai Saheeli in the Modern Open this weekend, missing top 16 on breakers as there were a few 11-4s in the Top 16. There were tons of control decks throughout the day, which makes a Jeskai player like me very happy on the inside.
I think Modern is in a good spot and the diversity of archetypes in these events is also great to see, as it makes me hopeful for the future of Modern.
How do you feel about the Death's Shadow matchup? I tried Jeskai Saheeli briefly, but canned it once I felt like the Shadow matchup was too rough (30/70). I actually beat the 2 Jund Death's Shadow (this was a while ago when I tried it), but I felt that I got pretty lucky and when I tested it at home, it got smashed by Shadow. I know Grixis Shadow is different, but it seems like it still would be sub 50%. How do approach this matchup? Or do you play a lot of the same tech as UW Control decks (that do well vs. Shadow now)?
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Legacy - Sneak Show, BR Reanimator, Miracles, UW Stoneblade
Premodern - Trix, RecSur, Enchantress, Reanimator, Elves https://www.facebook.com/groups/PremodernUSA/ Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander - Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build) (dead format for me)
The meta is really interesting. I top 32'd (11-4, 25th place) with Jeskai Saheeli in the Modern Open this weekend, missing top 16 on breakers as there were a few 11-4s in the Top 16. There were tons of control decks throughout the day, which makes a Jeskai player like me very happy on the inside.
I think Modern is in a good spot and the diversity of archetypes in these events is also great to see, as it makes me hopeful for the future of Modern.
How do you feel about the Death's Shadow matchup? I tried Jeskai Saheeli briefly, but canned it once I felt like the Shadow matchup was too rough (30/70). I actually beat the 2 Jund Death's Shadow (this was a while ago when I tried it), but I felt that I got pretty lucky and when I tested it at home, it got smashed by Shadow. I know Grixis Shadow is different, but it seems like it still would be sub 50%. How do approach this matchup? Or do you play a lot of the same tech as UW Control decks (that do well vs. Shadow now)?
I actually think the Grixis matchup is a little bit difficult due to Stubborn Denial. The DS Jund is much more favorable due to the 100% chance that Path to Exile will resolve if you cast it and it's also easier to hate. A topdecked (or natural) Rest in Peace still nukes Goyf and shuts off Traverse, while Grixis Shadow, once a Delve creature has already come out, is much harder to deal with. The matchup revolves around either: A) burning them out and getting aggressive with Cliques/Snaps/Colonnades etc, or B) sideboarding into mass amounts of sweepers like Supreme Verdict or targeted hate cards like Condemn.
I decided to choose option A, simply because it was a stronger plan against an open field. I played 1 DS Jund during Day 1 and won 2-0 and played 1 DS Grixis during Day 2 and lost 1-2. Grixis Shadow is tough and slightly unfavorable, but definitely not a 30-70 matchup. I think the deck was a good meta call for this weekend. I was able to get a ton of T4 wins against uninteractive decks, while being able to stomp the linear decks like Affinity/Burn and have game against Midrange, Storm, Living End, and even Dredge post-board.
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Nice. Good analysis and congrats at doing so well. Yeah, I believe that I needed another testing session. In those testing sessions, there was just too much discard and lack of drawing ScM or Path later on. It's interesting that it may be somewhat decently positioned right now. I never thought about it that way.
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Legacy - Sneak Show, BR Reanimator, Miracles, UW Stoneblade
Premodern - Trix, RecSur, Enchantress, Reanimator, Elves https://www.facebook.com/groups/PremodernUSA/ Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander - Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build) (dead format for me)
UR ....... WUBR ........... WB ............. RGW ........ UBR ....... WUB .... BGU
Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
UB Faeries (15-6-0)
UWR Control (10-5-1)/Kiki Control/Midrange/Harbinger
UBR Cruel Control (6-4-0)/Grixis Control/Delver/Blue Jund
UWB Control/Mentor
UW Miracles/Control (currently active, 14-2-0)
BW Eldrazi & Taxes
RW Burn (9-1-0)
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2x Eldrazi Tron
1x Dredge
1x Living End
Not the most diverse of Top 8's.
Hahaha wow that looks like *****. Is a Classic* enough of a spark to ignite banmania? Tune in to the MTGS State of Modern thread tonight to find out!
*edit: I guess it was an Open. The Classic didn't look half bad. Bant Turns WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Wait, a Bant Taking Turns list? You have a link? That sounds fun.
The SCG links don't work here, but if you go to the event on the SCG page, and the top 32 decklists, it's the Bant Turns by Ali Aintrazi, but under the Modern Classic, not the Open I believe.
Premodern - Trix, RecSur, Enchantress, Reanimator, Elves https://www.facebook.com/groups/PremodernUSA/
Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander -
Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build)(dead format for me)https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/671002
A very interesting list to say the least.
That's the one. Planeswalker Party!
Apparently a Dubious Challenge deck managed to Top16, I remember talk about it when the card was printed but it was very inconsistent and bad (there are much better ways to cheat in fatties, even Summoning Trap).
It reminds me of a worse version of the "Breaking // Entering Expertise" deck (before the rules change killed it).
I've found some streams with this deck:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qumepE0yq1A
and a tweaked version - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Na_78nCQMW4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsqIuXugZo0
http://www.starcitygames.com/article/35285_Video-Challenge-Breach-In-Modern.html
Yet despite all this, I am interested in some Modern. Hopefully just to see how the metagame is shifting and not any talks of bannings.
Premodern - Trix, RecSur, Enchantress, Reanimator, Elves https://www.facebook.com/groups/PremodernUSA/
Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander -
Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build)(dead format for me)I heard Lantern was 8-0, but I have worse than Apathy for Standard.
Spirits
Spirits
Top 8 for the Invitational (remember, half the record is from Standard)
Lantern Control
Eldrazi Tron
Eldrazi Tron
Grixis Death's Shadow
Grixis Death's Shadow
Abzan (with Knight of the Reliquary and Bitterblossom??)
Burn
Death & Taxes
http://sales.starcitygames.com//deckdatabase/deckshow.php?&t[C1]=28&start_date=06/30/2017&end_date=07/01/2017&start=1&finish=8&event_ID=21
UR ....... WUBR ........... WB ............. RGW ........ UBR ....... WUB .... BGU
Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
Invitational 7-1 or better.
1. GR Ponza
2. Jund
3. Lantern Control, top 8
4. Abzan with Bitterblossom and Knight of the Reliquary, top 8
5. Grixis Death's Shadow
6. Eldrazi Tron
7. Esper Death's Shadow
8. Colorless Eldrazi, our own Ashton Kutcher
9. Eldrazi Tron
10. Grixis Death's Shadow
11. BG Midrange
12. Affinity
13. Eldrazi Tron
14. Living End
15. RG Breach
Modern Open
1. Affinity
2. Grixis Death's Shadow
3. Merfolk
4. Affinity
5. Counters Company
6. Grixis Death's Shadow
7. Counters Company
8. Eldrazi Tron
9. Jeskai Control
10. WR Prison
11. UW Control
12. UW Control
13. Death and Taxes
14. Jeskai Control
15. Burn
16. Jeskai Control
Classic
1. Merfolk
2. GB Tron
3. GB Tron
4. UB Faeries
5. Bant Eldrazi
6. Jeskai Control
7. GR Tron
8. Abzan Traverse
Premodern - Trix, RecSur, Enchantress, Reanimator, Elves https://www.facebook.com/groups/PremodernUSA/
Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander -
Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build)(dead format for me)I think Modern is in a good spot and the diversity of archetypes in these events is also great to see, as it makes me hopeful for the future of Modern.
How do you feel about the Death's Shadow matchup? I tried Jeskai Saheeli briefly, but canned it once I felt like the Shadow matchup was too rough (30/70). I actually beat the 2 Jund Death's Shadow (this was a while ago when I tried it), but I felt that I got pretty lucky and when I tested it at home, it got smashed by Shadow. I know Grixis Shadow is different, but it seems like it still would be sub 50%. How do approach this matchup? Or do you play a lot of the same tech as UW Control decks (that do well vs. Shadow now)?
Premodern - Trix, RecSur, Enchantress, Reanimator, Elves https://www.facebook.com/groups/PremodernUSA/
Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander -
Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build)(dead format for me)I actually think the Grixis matchup is a little bit difficult due to Stubborn Denial. The DS Jund is much more favorable due to the 100% chance that Path to Exile will resolve if you cast it and it's also easier to hate. A topdecked (or natural) Rest in Peace still nukes Goyf and shuts off Traverse, while Grixis Shadow, once a Delve creature has already come out, is much harder to deal with. The matchup revolves around either: A) burning them out and getting aggressive with Cliques/Snaps/Colonnades etc, or B) sideboarding into mass amounts of sweepers like Supreme Verdict or targeted hate cards like Condemn.
I decided to choose option A, simply because it was a stronger plan against an open field. I played 1 DS Jund during Day 1 and won 2-0 and played 1 DS Grixis during Day 2 and lost 1-2. Grixis Shadow is tough and slightly unfavorable, but definitely not a 30-70 matchup. I think the deck was a good meta call for this weekend. I was able to get a ton of T4 wins against uninteractive decks, while being able to stomp the linear decks like Affinity/Burn and have game against Midrange, Storm, Living End, and even Dredge post-board.
Premodern - Trix, RecSur, Enchantress, Reanimator, Elves https://www.facebook.com/groups/PremodernUSA/
Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander -
Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build)(dead format for me)News from Ad Nauseam or any combo decks would be nice!
Aggro: Naya Burn RWG
Combo: Scapeshift RG
Control: Jeskai Control UWR
Legacy
Control: Miracles UW
Aggro: Burn R
1 Duffee, Daniel [US] - Merfolk
2 Musser, Dan [US]
3 Rosum, Jonathan [US]- Jeskai Control with quellers and geists
4 White, Jeffrey [US]
5 Jessup, Daniel [US] - grixis shadow
6 Mackenzie, Ciaran [US]
7 Dunn, Ryan [US]
8 Scherer, Caleb [US]- Storm
9 Davis, Jim [US] - Gb Tron
10 Pyka, Jeffrey [US]- Storm
11 Wray, James [US]
12 Robdrup, Andy [US]
13 Cunningham, Scott [US]
14 Tomajko, Oliver [US]- Storm
15 Langit, Mike [US]
16 Bahne, Chase [US]
17 Campo, Terrence [US]
18 Conlin, Paul [US]
19 Cline, Branden [US]
20 Smithson, Isaiah [US]
UWRUWR Delver/Lynx TempoUWR-------UWRUWR Midrange GeistUWR-------UWRUWR Nahiri ControlUWR-------UWRUWR SaheeliUWR
BGRJund / Jund ShadowBGR-------BGWAbzan / Abzan ShadowBGW
Commander (Leviathan/MTGO): UWGeist of Saint TraftUW
Isaiah Smithson is likely on Infect (I'm almost sure).
Campo could finish top 32, but he's more experienced in Standard or Limited. I saw him at GP Montreal like last year for a 10-4 run and he's good!
Aggro: Naya Burn RWG
Combo: Scapeshift RG
Control: Jeskai Control UWR
Legacy
Control: Miracles UW
Aggro: Burn R
UWRUWR Delver/Lynx TempoUWR-------UWRUWR Midrange GeistUWR-------UWRUWR Nahiri ControlUWR-------UWRUWR SaheeliUWR
BGRJund / Jund ShadowBGR-------BGWAbzan / Abzan ShadowBGW
Commander (Leviathan/MTGO): UWGeist of Saint TraftUW