I don't want anything banned but I wouldn't be surprised if CoCo gets banned. Not because it's OP, but because it generates the same "Stop printing pushed creatures or ban Collected Company" dilemma that Pod created.
Not entirely since it's only creatures with CMC 3 or less.
The card that pushed Birthing Pod over the top was Siege Rhino though. Something that won't be happening with Collected Company.
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lol no, quite the opposite. I just take serious issue with the printing of Emrakul.
What's wrong with the flying spaghetti monster? I mean he does cost 15 mana. He is impossible to cast in any deck that is not a heavy and dedicated ramp deck.
Although it does take dedication, he is still just a single card that can say "I win now" all on its own. Coming back from an Emrakul is possible sure, but the chance of that is absurdly small. I just don't think "I win now" cards should be printed (2-card combos are an entirely other discussion).
Passive aggressive much?
Nah, see Emrakul can't be countered and has protection from coloured spells. Door to nothingness is easily dealt with don't be silly.
Does Delver of Secrets need to be added to this considering the new Mulligan rules? Or does that not change the consistency of it flipping by that much?
No. The mulligan rule barely effects Delver at all. And even if it did, a ban would be stupid.
lol no, quite the opposite. I just take serious issue with the printing of Emrakul.
What's wrong with the flying spaghetti monster? I mean he does cost 15 mana. He is impossible to cast in any deck that is not a heavy and dedicated ramp deck.
Although it does take dedication, he is still just a single card that can say "I win now" all on its own. Coming back from an Emrakul is possible sure, but the chance of that is absurdly small. I just don't think "I win now" cards should be printed (2-card combos are an entirely other discussion).
Passive aggressive much?
Nah, see Emrakul can't be countered and has protection from coloured spells. Door to nothingness is easily dealt with don't be silly.
No, man. I just find it funny. Don't see that everyday
lol no, quite the opposite. I just take serious issue with the printing of Emrakul.
What's wrong with the flying spaghetti monster? I mean he does cost 15 mana. He is impossible to cast in any deck that is not a heavy and dedicated ramp deck.
Although it does take dedication, he is still just a single card that can say "I win now" all on its own. Coming back from an Emrakul is possible sure, but the chance of that is absurdly small. I just don't think "I win now" cards should be printed (2-card combos are an entirely other discussion).
Passive aggressive much?
Nah, see Emrakul can't be countered and has protection from coloured spells. Door to nothingness is easily dealt with don't be silly.
I voted to ban hivemind, this card sees no play anywhere else and for good reason. The amulet bloom deck may be a quirky fun deck that has taken the meta by storm (in no relation to storm) but the problem is its ability to win on turn one, yes this is almost impossible but if wizards isn't going to reprint a force of will or unban mental misstep (Never going to happen) I think this is hurting modern on the person against the one percent. Even greater than that is the problem of turn twos. I have a budget infect deck that can turn two with four specific cards if my opponent has no creatures, removal, or counterspells. As far as I know amulet bloom says "Counterspell for 1 mana? no? I win." I'd love to hear other people's more knowledgeable opinions (and grammar opinions) on my post. DOWN WITH THE RESERVED LIST!!!
either way no deck that is minimally interactive AND CAN win pre turn 3 at all should be legal in modern. bans shouldn't be always about a deck taking a large percentage of the meta but also decks that clearly violate the rules.. this is a turn 4 format. turn 3 kills should be rare, not turn 2....
that being said blooms currently the eight best deck in modern and it doesn't play magic, uninteractive, pre turn 3 win possibility. hmm seems like a good reason to nerf it to me
while griselshoal is even more consistent with turn 2 wins the only thing saving it right now from nerf is the fact that it is only top 16 in modern
If anything should be banned in Grishoalbrand, it should just be Nourishing Shoal. The deck has been around forever, it's just the discovery of shoal that makes it go really big. Banning Shoal doesn't hurt anything else, it just nerfs the Goryo's decks and it doesn't destroy the entire archetype. Personally I don't think they should ban anything though, it isn't like Bloom Titan or Grishoalbrand are taking the format by storm or anything.
After reading all the comments, Wizards will soon reprint Force of Will to deal with all the anger made from Combo Decks. Of course combo decks will also pack force of will but at the same time, due to that become weaker with the need for blue cards. And then we'll be playing Legacy light.
For me the format is very healthy. I don't want to see summer bloom or vengence banned. These decks are still a breath of fresh air. If we get rid of them, we return to most of the decks that have been tier 1 for years.
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1) Hive Mind - I understand that Amulet Bloom is not an oppressive deck at the moment in terms of results. But I think, sometimes, the DCI is justified in nipping a problematic deck in the bud before it is an issue, and this is one of those cases. I don't see an issue with the PT/Amulet/Bloom core of this deck and actually find it pretty interesting to play against most of the time. But an early win condition that can literally only be answered by blue is not a good thing, and I think Hive Mind needs to get the axe for this reason.
2) Griselbrand - Again, this is a case where I think it's not a bad idea to stop a problem early before it grows. As others have said, Grisel is just begging too much to be abused, being a Bargain on a stick and all. I think Goryo's Vengeance is a perfectly fair reanimation spell and would be the wrong choice to ban for this deck. I don't believe in banning perfectly fair pieces of decks that seem unfair; I'm against Nourishing Shoal being banned for this reason. It's a life gain spell for Pete's sake. And I disagree that having Goryo's around limits design space for huge fatties. All the really crazy fatties can be printed with a Progenitus style clause to keep them from getting degenerate with reanimator strategies.
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I don't want anything to be banned, I just want a modern legal Counterspell, or Force of Will. As Patrick Chapin has stated, the older/more powerful the format is, the better FoW becomes. It wouldn't be broken in modern, nor would counterspell. They would police dumb decks, and allow fair ones, or resilient combos to work well.
I don't want anything to be banned, I just want a modern legal Counterspell, or Force of Will. As Patrick Chapin has stated, the older/more powerful the format is, the better FoW becomes. It wouldn't be broken in modern, nor would counterspell. They would police dumb decks, and allow fair ones, or resilient combos to work well.
The problem with this idea is the same problem in Legacy. Have you seen a non-blue deck win lately? No. Because basically, if you're not playing blue, you're losing.
If you bring FOW in modern, the problem will be exactly the same (plus I really don't want the format to be legacy-light). It'll be a field riddled with blue and basically everything else will be Tier 2 and less. The fact that FOW does NOT exist in the format is the reason there are so many decks that are viable. And that's great.
I play Grisholbrand and I can assure you that there is no need to ban the deck. Yes, it CAN do busted turn two wins. But those are not as common as you think. The times where the deck is not comboing within the first 4 turns, it really does nothing. And you just lose because you have zero interaction with your opponent. The deck is fantastic against all the control decks out there (it greatly benefits from the draw-go style of play). But it has a really hard time with aggressive decks (zoo, burn, affinity, infect).
At this point in time, I don't really see anything worth banning. Not even amulet. Just play blood moon. GG.
I play Grisholbrand and I can assure you that there is no need to ban the deck. Yes, it CAN do busted turn two wins. But those are not as common as you think. The times where the deck is not comboing within the first 4 turns, it really does nothing. And you just lose because you have zero interaction with your opponent. The deck is fantastic against all the control decks out there (it greatly benefits from the draw-go style of play). But it has a really hard time with aggressive decks (zoo, burn, affinity, infect).
I played in a PPTQ Saturday and one on Sunday.
On Saturday I was sitting next to a Grishoalbrand deck playing against a Burn deck... The Grishoal brand deck had back-to-back turn two wins.
Sunday I was playing Burn. I faced the same Grishoalbrand pilot twice (once in the swiss rounds, one in the semifinals). Out of 5 games, he got Griselbrand out 3 times on turn 2. Two of those games were won on turn 2, the third he won the following turn by TtBing a Worldspine Wurm.
From my experience, the turn two wins are a lot more common than you say.
As for the deck having "zero interaction," in one of my games I attacked for lethal on turn 3. He was tapped out, but still was able to Shoal for 11 life at instant speed.
I play Grisholbrand and I can assure you that there is no need to ban the deck. Yes, it CAN do busted turn two wins. But those are not as common as you think. The times where the deck is not comboing within the first 4 turns, it really does nothing. And you just lose because you have zero interaction with your opponent. The deck is fantastic against all the control decks out there (it greatly benefits from the draw-go style of play). But it has a really hard time with aggressive decks (zoo, burn, affinity, infect).
I played in a PPTQ Saturday and one on Sunday.
On Saturday I was sitting next to a Grishoalbrand deck playing against a Burn deck... The Grishoal brand deck had back-to-back turn two wins.
Sunday I was playing Burn. I faced the same Grishoalbrand pilot twice (once in the swiss rounds, one in the semifinals). Out of 5 games, he got Griselbrand out 3 times on turn 2. Two of those games were won on turn 2, the third he won the following turn by TtBing a Worldspine Wurm.
From my experience, the turn two wins are a lot more common than you say.
As for the deck having "zero interaction," in one of my games I attacked for lethal on turn 3. He was tapped out, but still was able to Shoal for 11 life at instant speed.
That is bad luck but hardly a relevant sample size. I have played around 15 games against Grishoalbrand (such a stupid ******* name) and I have won 9 of them (I am on Junk).
When he does beat me, it is because I keep a bad hand with no interaction. He had one turn 3 win against me, his other wins have been past turn 4. So in my experience, the deck is totally fine.
The point is we need a much larger sample size, and banning anything in this deck without it winning or top 8'ing more GP's is silly.
Brian Braun-Duin brought up an interesting solution to alot of Modern's problems: simply ban 8th and 9th edition from the format. No more Blood Moon, no more Tron lands, no more Summer Bloom, no more Choke. Alot of derpy broken stuff and extremely hateful cards are just removed from the format.
Brian Braun-Duin brought up an interesting solution to alot of Modern's problems: simply ban 8th and 9th edition from the format. No more Blood Moon, no more Tron lands, no more Summer Bloom, no more Choke. Alot of derpy broken stuff and extremely hateful cards are just removed from the format.
That would be awful. Tron is a very fun and popular deck that is not at all oppressive. Blood Moon is an excellent policing card being that it is pretty easy to play around, and punishes people who play greedy. If Tron gets banned, BGx will om-nom-nom the entire format.
Hell my entire Junk Sideboard could just be dedicated to making my Twin and URx matchups even better than they are. No more need for 3-4x Fulminators. Just a Thrun or two and 4x Duress.
Brian Braun-Duin brought up an interesting solution to alot of Modern's problems: simply ban 8th and 9th edition from the format. No more Blood Moon, no more Tron lands, no more Summer Bloom, no more Choke. Alot of derpy broken stuff and extremely hateful cards are just removed from the format.
This sounds like a horrible idea. Would you rather the meta be all BGx Twin Affinity and Burn?
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Brian Braun-Duin brought up an interesting solution to alot of Modern's problems: simply ban 8th and 9th edition from the format.
If by "interesting idea" you mean "terrible idea."
No more Blood Moon, no more Tron lands, no more Summer Bloom, no more Choke.
So basically, this solution to Modern's problems is to take out a lot of cards that, except for maybe Summer Bloom, aren't problems.
Alot of derpy broken stuff and extremely hateful cards are just removed from the format.
Again, except for maybe Summer Bloom, none of those are "derpy broken stuff." And yes, it takes out some "extremely hateful cards" but those cards aren't problems, and I'd argue are good for the format. The only problem with them I see is that they're a bit unbalanced in that while there's some great stuff against particular colors, other colors don't suffer from those. For example, Choke and Boil are quite good against Blue, but Blue lacks Chill. I wouldn't be averse to bringing Chill into the format to try to even things up. But even as is, there isn't any problem with the hate cards being in the format.
Also, I can't help but notice--and Cedric Phillips mentioned this also when Brian brought this up on a Grand Prix stream--that the cards taken out by removing those sets seem to do little other than benefit Brian Braun-Duin's pet deck, Collected Company. It all comes across very much as "I have trouble beating these decks! Ban them for me, Wizards!"
This is more a topic of discussion for the main banlist thread, though.
Brian Braun-Duin brought up an interesting solution to alot of Modern's problems: simply ban 8th and 9th edition from the format.
If by "interesting idea" you mean "terrible idea."
No more Blood Moon, no more Tron lands, no more Summer Bloom, no more Choke.
So basically, this solution to Modern's problems is to take out a lot of cards that, except for maybe Summer Bloom, aren't problems.
Alot of derpy broken stuff and extremely hateful cards are just removed from the format.
Again, except for maybe Summer Bloom, none of those are "derpy broken stuff." And yes, it takes out some "extremely hateful cards" but those cards aren't problems, and I'd argue are good for the format. The only problem with them I see is that they're a bit unbalanced in that while there's some great stuff against particular colors, other colors don't suffer from those. For example, Choke and Boil are quite good against Blue, but Blue lacks Chill. I wouldn't be averse to bringing Chill into the format to try to even things up. But even as is, there isn't any problem with the hate cards being in the format.
Also, I can't help but notice--and Cedric Phillips mentioned this also when Brian brought this up on a Grand Prix stream--that the cards taken out by removing those sets seem to do little other than benefit Brian Braun-Duin's pet deck, Collected Company. It all comes across very much as "I have trouble beating these decks! Ban them for me, Wizards!"
This is more a topic of discussion for the main banlist thread, though.
terrible as in making the format more diverse?
blood moon on turn 2 by grisel decks or mana dork decks is bonkers not to mention blood moon makes so many decks not viable and tron doing the same in hurting viable midrange/ fair control decks.
yes bloom and tron hurt coco decks but id rather have them in the format than bloom or tron. tron and bloom hurt fair grindy strategies in general.
my argument for bbds idea is to make the format more diverse and this is a step in the right direction. even though it may not be because any one deck is dominating right now.
blood moon on turn 2 by grisel decks or mana dork decks is bonkers not to mention blood moon makes so many decks not viable
Like what? What decks are being kept out by Blood Moon? All the 3-color decks running around certainly seem to do just fine against it. And considering how much people complain about lack of nonbasic hate in Modern, it seems odd to actually take out one of the good cards at preventing greedy manabases.
and tron doing the same in hurting viable midrange/ fair control decks.
Right, because midrange is struggling so much in Modern. Oh wait, it isn't. Midrange is, as it has been for years now, terrific.
As for control, control's problems in Modern go way beyond Tron being a bad matchup. Even if we suppose that Tron is actually unwinnable for control decks (not true), let's remember that Tron is about 5% of the meta. How does a deck you'll face on average once every 20 rounds prevent an entire archetype from being viable? There certainly are many control decks in a tournament that never run into Tron, so why aren't they tearing things up?
yes bloom and tron hurt coco decks but id rather have them in the format than bloom or torn.
Irrelevant argument.
tron and bloom hurt fair grindy strategies in general.
Is that why, except for maybe the Treasure Cruise era, Jund and/or Junk has been Tier 1 for over three years straight?
my argument for bbds idea is to make the format more diverse
It makes the format less diverse.
and this is a step in the right direction.
Again, it's a step away from diversity. All it does is kill some decks, then make already good decks even better. That's the opposite of making the format more diverse.
even though it may not be because any one deck is dominating right now.
Wait, so you say it's a step in the right direction, then claim "it may not be"? Huh?
blood moon on turn 2 by grisel decks or mana dork decks is bonkers not to mention blood moon makes so many decks not viable
Like what? What decks are being kept out by Blood Moon? All the 3-color decks running around certainly seem to do just fine against it. And considering how much people complain about lack of nonbasic hate in Modern, it seems odd to actually take out one of the good cards at preventing greedy manabases.
and tron doing the same in hurting viable midrange/ fair control decks.
Right, because midrange is struggling so much in Modern. Oh wait, it isn't. Midrange is, as it has been for years now, terrific.
As for control, control's problems in Modern go way beyond Tron being a bad matchup. Even if we suppose that Tron is actually unwinnable for control decks (not true), let's remember that Tron is about 5% of the meta. How does a deck you'll face on average once every 20 rounds prevent an entire archetype from being viable? There certainly are many control decks in a tournament that never run into Tron, so why aren't they tearing things up?
yes bloom and tron hurt coco decks but id rather have them in the format than bloom or torn.
Irrelevant argument.
tron and bloom hurt fair grindy strategies in general.
Is that why, except for maybe the Treasure Cruise era, Jund and/or Junk has been Tier 1 for over three years straight?
my argument for bbds idea is to make the format more diverse
It makes the format less diverse.
and this is a step in the right direction.
Again, it's a step away from diversity. All it does is kill some decks, then make already good decks even better. That's the opposite of making the format more diverse.
even though it may not be because any one deck is dominating right now.
Wait, so you say it's a step in the right direction, then claim "it may not be"? Huh?
1. thats a bit of an exaggeration
2. whats wrong with greedy mana bases they punish themselves. tron and bloom are the only reason why a card like that should exist. but without them blood moons just there to get free wins which isnt what modern should be about especially if they can get it out turn 2 lolz
3. can you explain to me why coco abzan decks arent doing well then? maybe tron and bloom decks just maybe?
4. it is relevant if you want modern to be more interactive......
5. how certain are you that little kid junk or coco decks wouldn't rise if bloom and tron left? what would that then do to bg/x decks. they seem to have good matchups vs them.
6. hahaha how does it make it less diverse? explain this to me in detail And I might just bite.
7. no it kills decks and then others rise that are good vs bg/x and ur/x decks aka coco decks,little kid, uwr control/midrange heck maybe even gifts decks...
8. event though this format is balanced right now percentage wise. there is still room to improve this format like take away free blood moon wins, and occasional turn 2 wins... make the format more: I could have won that if I did this different. instead of: I got blood mooned or; I got turn 2'ed on the draw.
Welp this is my cue. No more ban talk for Venomous until after the next announcement. We are clearly running out of things to talk about if we want entire sets made obsolete. This forum gets pretty silly sometimes.
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Not entirely since it's only creatures with CMC 3 or less.
The card that pushed Birthing Pod over the top was Siege Rhino though. Something that won't be happening with Collected Company.
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Passive aggressive much?
Nah, see Emrakul can't be countered and has protection from coloured spells. Door to nothingness is easily dealt with don't be silly.
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No, man. I just find it funny. Don't see that everyday
Crackling Doom kills Emrakul at instant speed
either way no deck that is minimally interactive AND CAN win pre turn 3 at all should be legal in modern. bans shouldn't be always about a deck taking a large percentage of the meta but also decks that clearly violate the rules.. this is a turn 4 format. turn 3 kills should be rare, not turn 2....
that being said blooms currently the eight best deck in modern and it doesn't play magic, uninteractive, pre turn 3 win possibility. hmm seems like a good reason to nerf it to me
while griselshoal is even more consistent with turn 2 wins the only thing saving it right now from nerf is the fact that it is only top 16 in modern
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1) Hive Mind - I understand that Amulet Bloom is not an oppressive deck at the moment in terms of results. But I think, sometimes, the DCI is justified in nipping a problematic deck in the bud before it is an issue, and this is one of those cases. I don't see an issue with the PT/Amulet/Bloom core of this deck and actually find it pretty interesting to play against most of the time. But an early win condition that can literally only be answered by blue is not a good thing, and I think Hive Mind needs to get the axe for this reason.
2) Griselbrand - Again, this is a case where I think it's not a bad idea to stop a problem early before it grows. As others have said, Grisel is just begging too much to be abused, being a Bargain on a stick and all. I think Goryo's Vengeance is a perfectly fair reanimation spell and would be the wrong choice to ban for this deck. I don't believe in banning perfectly fair pieces of decks that seem unfair; I'm against Nourishing Shoal being banned for this reason. It's a life gain spell for Pete's sake. And I disagree that having Goryo's around limits design space for huge fatties. All the really crazy fatties can be printed with a Progenitus style clause to keep them from getting degenerate with reanimator strategies.
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The problem with this idea is the same problem in Legacy. Have you seen a non-blue deck win lately? No. Because basically, if you're not playing blue, you're losing.
If you bring FOW in modern, the problem will be exactly the same (plus I really don't want the format to be legacy-light). It'll be a field riddled with blue and basically everything else will be Tier 2 and less. The fact that FOW does NOT exist in the format is the reason there are so many decks that are viable. And that's great.
I play Grisholbrand and I can assure you that there is no need to ban the deck. Yes, it CAN do busted turn two wins. But those are not as common as you think. The times where the deck is not comboing within the first 4 turns, it really does nothing. And you just lose because you have zero interaction with your opponent. The deck is fantastic against all the control decks out there (it greatly benefits from the draw-go style of play). But it has a really hard time with aggressive decks (zoo, burn, affinity, infect).
At this point in time, I don't really see anything worth banning. Not even amulet. Just play blood moon. GG.
I played in a PPTQ Saturday and one on Sunday.
On Saturday I was sitting next to a Grishoalbrand deck playing against a Burn deck... The Grishoal brand deck had back-to-back turn two wins.
Sunday I was playing Burn. I faced the same Grishoalbrand pilot twice (once in the swiss rounds, one in the semifinals). Out of 5 games, he got Griselbrand out 3 times on turn 2. Two of those games were won on turn 2, the third he won the following turn by TtBing a Worldspine Wurm.
From my experience, the turn two wins are a lot more common than you say.
As for the deck having "zero interaction," in one of my games I attacked for lethal on turn 3. He was tapped out, but still was able to Shoal for 11 life at instant speed.
That is bad luck but hardly a relevant sample size. I have played around 15 games against Grishoalbrand (such a stupid ******* name) and I have won 9 of them (I am on Junk).
When he does beat me, it is because I keep a bad hand with no interaction. He had one turn 3 win against me, his other wins have been past turn 4. So in my experience, the deck is totally fine.
The point is we need a much larger sample size, and banning anything in this deck without it winning or top 8'ing more GP's is silly.
That would be awful. Tron is a very fun and popular deck that is not at all oppressive. Blood Moon is an excellent policing card being that it is pretty easy to play around, and punishes people who play greedy. If Tron gets banned, BGx will om-nom-nom the entire format.
Hell my entire Junk Sideboard could just be dedicated to making my Twin and URx matchups even better than they are. No more need for 3-4x Fulminators. Just a Thrun or two and 4x Duress.
This sounds like a horrible idea. Would you rather the meta be all BGx Twin Affinity and Burn?
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So basically, this solution to Modern's problems is to take out a lot of cards that, except for maybe Summer Bloom, aren't problems.
Again, except for maybe Summer Bloom, none of those are "derpy broken stuff." And yes, it takes out some "extremely hateful cards" but those cards aren't problems, and I'd argue are good for the format. The only problem with them I see is that they're a bit unbalanced in that while there's some great stuff against particular colors, other colors don't suffer from those. For example, Choke and Boil are quite good against Blue, but Blue lacks Chill. I wouldn't be averse to bringing Chill into the format to try to even things up. But even as is, there isn't any problem with the hate cards being in the format.
Also, I can't help but notice--and Cedric Phillips mentioned this also when Brian brought this up on a Grand Prix stream--that the cards taken out by removing those sets seem to do little other than benefit Brian Braun-Duin's pet deck, Collected Company. It all comes across very much as "I have trouble beating these decks! Ban them for me, Wizards!"
This is more a topic of discussion for the main banlist thread, though.
terrible as in making the format more diverse?
blood moon on turn 2 by grisel decks or mana dork decks is bonkers not to mention blood moon makes so many decks not viable and tron doing the same in hurting viable midrange/ fair control decks.
yes bloom and tron hurt coco decks but id rather have them in the format than bloom or tron. tron and bloom hurt fair grindy strategies in general.
my argument for bbds idea is to make the format more diverse and this is a step in the right direction. even though it may not be because any one deck is dominating right now.
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Like what? What decks are being kept out by Blood Moon? All the 3-color decks running around certainly seem to do just fine against it. And considering how much people complain about lack of nonbasic hate in Modern, it seems odd to actually take out one of the good cards at preventing greedy manabases.
Right, because midrange is struggling so much in Modern. Oh wait, it isn't. Midrange is, as it has been for years now, terrific.
As for control, control's problems in Modern go way beyond Tron being a bad matchup. Even if we suppose that Tron is actually unwinnable for control decks (not true), let's remember that Tron is about 5% of the meta. How does a deck you'll face on average once every 20 rounds prevent an entire archetype from being viable? There certainly are many control decks in a tournament that never run into Tron, so why aren't they tearing things up?
Irrelevant argument.
Is that why, except for maybe the Treasure Cruise era, Jund and/or Junk has been Tier 1 for over three years straight?
It makes the format less diverse.
Again, it's a step away from diversity. All it does is kill some decks, then make already good decks even better. That's the opposite of making the format more diverse.
Wait, so you say it's a step in the right direction, then claim "it may not be"? Huh?
1. thats a bit of an exaggeration
2. whats wrong with greedy mana bases they punish themselves. tron and bloom are the only reason why a card like that should exist. but without them blood moons just there to get free wins which isnt what modern should be about especially if they can get it out turn 2 lolz
3. can you explain to me why coco abzan decks arent doing well then? maybe tron and bloom decks just maybe?
4. it is relevant if you want modern to be more interactive......
5. how certain are you that little kid junk or coco decks wouldn't rise if bloom and tron left? what would that then do to bg/x decks. they seem to have good matchups vs them.
6. hahaha how does it make it less diverse? explain this to me in detail And I might just bite.
7. no it kills decks and then others rise that are good vs bg/x and ur/x decks aka coco decks,little kid, uwr control/midrange heck maybe even gifts decks...
8. event though this format is balanced right now percentage wise. there is still room to improve this format like take away free blood moon wins, and occasional turn 2 wins... make the format more: I could have won that if I did this different. instead of: I got blood mooned or; I got turn 2'ed on the draw.
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