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What cards do you think should be banned or unbanned in Modern in the next announcement? (4/4/16 update)
Poll: What cards do you think should be BANNED?
Ended Apr 2, 2016
Poll: What cards do you think should be UNBANNED?
Ended Apr 2, 2016
Roughly the same goldfish percentages as Legacy Dredge, same cards in the format to fight the hate. Seems like a bad idea at the moment.
I wouldnt mind seeing JTMS unbanned. It would be interesting to see what people would do with him.
WBG Karador GBW
R Daretti R
RG Omnath GR
WRG Modern Burn GRW
WB Modern Tokens BW
DCI Rules Advisor as of 5/18/2015
and lol to stoneforge mystic unban, look at the last SCG legacy finalist decklist, is modern junk+stoneforge!
And Jitte, a playset of DRS, Sylvan Library, Swords to plowshares, and a nearly pain free manabase. Yep. Definitely the same deck.
It's a good creature, but like Goblin Guide, its price is basically a reflection of the fact that nothing is equal in terms of efficiency as a vanilla beater. Just like it's hard to swallow the fact that the little red 2/2 for 1 is $40 and climbing, goyf is an auto 4-of in just about every green beatdown deck. Most of the decks that don't include it are either due to cost reasons, or they're a combo deck not relying on individual creature value. Either way, a ban is silly. The price is ridiculous, but he card itself does nothing wrong.
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Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
If you look at all of the past polls, optins like Skull clamp always get 2-4% or whatever of the vote, it's the same 2-3 users voting for those cards every poll.
You are right that this poll doesn't really mean anything outside of this forum, bit that was the point in making it. People in the ban thread would say stuff like "everyone wants bbe unbanned", but when we started polling it turns out that a consistent 30% want it you unbanned.
Op can correct me but the ban candidates are based off of cards discussed in the ban thread that dont break the rules.
ban-something from eldrazi
Eye of Ugin
Mox Opal
Simian Spirit Guide
Unban:
Ancestral Vision
Bloodbraid Elf
Splinter Twin
Sword of the Meek
Ban:
Eye of Ugin
Eldrazi Temple
Unban:
Splinter Twin
~OR~
Stoneforge Mystic
What I think will happen:
Ban:
Eye of Ugin
~AND/OR~
Eldrazi Temple
Unban:
Nothing
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Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
Why would they unban anything when all we've had is a volatile meta with a hyper dominate rogue deck? There's no actual valuable to go off of since the last ban cycle at all.
-Eldrazi Temple: just silly with the new Eldrazi, fire them without disrupting oldies-but-goldies Tron decks
..and for an unban of:
-Splinter Twin: I can see the reasons why it got the hammer, but I accepted the challenge it gave to non-Twin strategies. Won't cry if it stays banned.
-Birthing Pod: same like Twin.
-Sword of the Meek: a "combo" that isn't seen in the Modern format with any comparable downgrade, and it doesn't win on the spot, while it opens up a lot of brewing dreams.
-Stoneforge Mystic: same like Sword of the Meek.
-Cloudpost: Tron is not opressive in any real meanings, it's just people with a bad Tron MU crying out loud. Though the Locust-Landbase might be the edge to make Tron really a meta-killer..
Greetings
Honestly, if nothing comes off this time (which is very likely) then nothing will probably come off until at least next January. They have no motivation to shake anything up until the next pro tour, and there's plenty of wreckage to sift through in the meantime. I'm not a big fan of this because I bought into Modern for the perceived stability compared to Standard. But it looks like this is their model for the format until we get further updates.
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Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
You cannot ban cloudposts without banning glimmerpost. Post decks were really dominat in the beginning of the format since it went over the top of everything and could actually survive against aggro unlike the tron decks of today.
Then again, Skullclamp has more votes than Blazing Shoal...
I tried to go with any cards that I saw multiple people suggest to ban after the Pro Tour happened. Looks like Serum Visions was a dud though (I originally wasn't going to have it, but someone suggested it when I posted my initial list in the banlist thread, and I vaguely remembered seeing someone at some point suggest it earlier so I figured I might as well). Probably should've had Ancient Stirrings in its place.
It's not about what's plausible to be banned; it's about what people are most likely to vote for. I see complaints about Ensnaring Bridge. I think it's a stupid card to complain about or suggest for a banning, but several people seem to want the card gone, so I included it.
Sometimes it feels like a lot of people just want to play modern so they can win more than to have a good time, so there's always a complaint about cards that are just good against their strategies. Sometimes the complaints are justified, like with Eldrazi, but other times it is just plain petty. There are people who also want to see some of the other decks in the competitive forums actually bubble to the top and want cards banned that would harm the top tier decks.
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
There are better wincons than Flamke-kin like Flayer and Griselbrand
Greetings,
Kathal
Modern/Legacy
either funpolice (Delver, Deathcloud, UW Control) or the fun decks (especially those ft. Griselbrand)
Either it's really under powered or blue players have finally started to gather their resources together.
People think it will magically make blue great again.
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Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
Spirits
The sad part is an Ancestral Visions unban probably won't do anything.
Exactly. In a format where you're likely dead by Turn 4, drawing three after you've already lost doesn't sound super awesome. And that's assuming you get best case scenario and have it in your opening hand, successfully cast it, and have it successfully resolve once coming off suspend. Granted it would be great (and probably ban-worthy-good) in long grindy games, that's not the meta we will have after April.
UR ....... WUBR ........... WB ............. RGW ........ UBR ....... WUB .... BGU
Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
you don't cast a card with suspend
URW PillowFort Stasis (costruction)
modern:
U Taking Turns combo
pauper:
UB Servitor Control
xenob8 : you know you are going to have a bad time when opponent starts with snow covered island