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What cards, if any, do you think should be unbanned/banned in Modern in the next announcement?
Poll: What cards, if any, do you think should be BANNED?
Ended Jul 17, 2016
Poll: What cards, if any, do you think should be UNBANNED?
Ended Jul 17, 2016
were also not talking about a vacuum were talking about modern as a whole.
decks playing:
none
Standard: lol no
Modern: BG/x, UR/x, Burn, Merfolk, Zoo, Storm
Legacy: Shardless BUG, Delver (BUG, RUG, Grixis), Landstill, Depths Combo, Merfolk
Vintage: Dark Times, BUG Fish, Merfolk
EDH: Teysa, Orzhov Scion / Krenko, Mob Boss / Stonebrow, Krosan Hero
not to mention the fact that a stoneblade deck might not even run nahiri.
http://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/modern/full#online
( I use mtg goldfish because modern nexus is out of date)
decks playing:
none
Standard: lol no
Modern: BG/x, UR/x, Burn, Merfolk, Zoo, Storm
Legacy: Shardless BUG, Delver (BUG, RUG, Grixis), Landstill, Depths Combo, Merfolk
Vintage: Dark Times, BUG Fish, Merfolk
EDH: Teysa, Orzhov Scion / Krenko, Mob Boss / Stonebrow, Krosan Hero
decks playing:
none
Standard: lol no
Modern: BG/x, UR/x, Burn, Merfolk, Zoo, Storm
Legacy: Shardless BUG, Delver (BUG, RUG, Grixis), Landstill, Depths Combo, Merfolk
Vintage: Dark Times, BUG Fish, Merfolk
EDH: Teysa, Orzhov Scion / Krenko, Mob Boss / Stonebrow, Krosan Hero
Standard: lol no
Modern: BG/x, UR/x, Burn, Merfolk, Zoo, Storm
Legacy: Shardless BUG, Delver (BUG, RUG, Grixis), Landstill, Depths Combo, Merfolk
Vintage: Dark Times, BUG Fish, Merfolk
EDH: Teysa, Orzhov Scion / Krenko, Mob Boss / Stonebrow, Krosan Hero
http://www.mtgtop8.com/format?f=MO&meta=54
id also prefer to use mtg goldfish instead as a meta game reference until modern nexus puts up there's, and by all means if either junk, or uwr are tier 1 in that update ill agree sfm isnt the best idea, otherwise I stand by by argument.
decks playing:
none
Standard: lol no
Modern: BG/x, UR/x, Burn, Merfolk, Zoo, Storm
Legacy: Shardless BUG, Delver (BUG, RUG, Grixis), Landstill, Depths Combo, Merfolk
Vintage: Dark Times, BUG Fish, Merfolk
EDH: Teysa, Orzhov Scion / Krenko, Mob Boss / Stonebrow, Krosan Hero
jund isnt junk, thats like including grixis when you reference the power level of uwr nahiri to make an argument about unbans.
if tier 2 is included in top tier than why wasn't bloom banned when it sat at tier 2 for so long?
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No. Junk is a Jund deck that has changed to beat the mirror and incidentally gets to take advantage of the great white sideboard cards. UWR and Grixis are completely different in design and playstyle.
Standard: lol no
Modern: BG/x, UR/x, Burn, Merfolk, Zoo, Storm
Legacy: Shardless BUG, Delver (BUG, RUG, Grixis), Landstill, Depths Combo, Merfolk
Vintage: Dark Times, BUG Fish, Merfolk
EDH: Teysa, Orzhov Scion / Krenko, Mob Boss / Stonebrow, Krosan Hero
Nobody playtests "Modern + SFM." Unbans should be made if they're possibly safe. R&D can wreck the whole format for three months by printing Thought-Knot Seer anytime they want, but you're not willing to take the chance on a card that's been sitting in your Legacy trade bait binder for years?
Serum Visions has been used in all those decks (plus a bunch of other "problematic" decks that Simian Spirit Guide never saw play in, such as Storm and Treasure Cruise Delver). Shall we ban Serum Visions?
Also, when was Ad Nauseam EVER "problematic"? The deck is essentially incapable of winning before turn 4 and it's been Tier 2 basically its entire existence.
SUPER early modern (around PT Philly or even community cup), ADN was a Tier 1 deck, since it had a good Post, Control and Zoo match-up, which was very important back than. Only the Infect Shoal deck was a horror match-up.
Greetings,
Kathal
Modern/Legacy
either funpolice (Delver, Deathcloud, UW Control) or the fun decks (especially those ft. Griselbrand)
Never knew this. I actually started Modern again when Cloudpost was banned already (not because of that, but just wanted something different from Standard) and I ran Ad Nauseam at FNM once. Ended up 2-3, losing most games to not finding Ad Nauseam or Angel's Grace/Phyrexian Unlife, or was 1 turn short of mana. Never tried it again, outside of playtesting at home.
Premodern - Trix, RecSur, Enchantress, Reanimator, Elves https://www.facebook.com/groups/PremodernUSA/
Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander -
Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build)(dead format for me)@FoodChainGoblins too:
Back than everything was super messy, but people considered ADN as DTB for PT Phily, same was true for 12 Post, Infect Shoal, Zoo and Delver. ADN had a great Delver and 12 Post match-up and a decent Zoo. Infect was a nightmare, since your interaction spells (Angel's Grace and Unlife) lined up very poorly vs them.
However, everything changed than, when Twin won the PT. People just ditched ADN for it, since it was just a better deck (similar clock, however, can run better interaction (Bolt + Remand (no Snappy back than)) and SB cards (Snapback)). With the printing of Snappy, ADN fell completely out of favour.
Greetings,
Kathal
PS: Still sad, that I couldn't play back than at the PT . Had an awesome Counter-Cat (4c Zoo) deck back than (GSZ says hi).
Modern/Legacy
either funpolice (Delver, Deathcloud, UW Control) or the fun decks (especially those ft. Griselbrand)
Greetings,
Kathal
Modern/Legacy
either funpolice (Delver, Deathcloud, UW Control) or the fun decks (especially those ft. Griselbrand)
someone correct me if I'm wrong