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What cards do you want UNBANNED in Modern? - Multiple Choice
Ended Jan 14, 2018
What cards do you want BANNED in Modern? - Multiple Choice
Quote from haloreaper117 »I think if you unban Bloodbraid Elf they might as well try to unban Jace, the Mind Sculptor while your at it. Both have potential to warp a format around it. BBE is a lot more busted than you would think. The spells that have been printed since haven't been made with BBE in mind too. BBE impacts the board instantly, has hast, and is hard to trade on par with. At least JTMS trades with Lighting Bolt and usually doesn't impact the battlefield much when it enters play! My opinion, BBE is more dangerous than any other card that could potentially be reintroduced to the format.
Quote from StubbsMcAwesome »Fun fact: the new rivals of ixalan card storm the vault has hidden text reading "artifact lands now have 0% chance to be unbanned." Aside from enabling current combo decks and potentially slotting directly into affinity, Wizards printing a card like this should (again) firmly cement artifact lands' rightful place on the banned list.
I'm still pro BBE, pro SFM coming off, but they've essentially already stated there will most likely be no changes.
Quote from unkyunk
THIS 100X!!! If you don't agree with this then there is no amount of logic that will ever convince you that good, non-oppressive, combos should be allowed. If you don't agree with it then just don't play this game, and you certainly shouldn't feel entitled to make any comment on ban lists ever.
Quote from StubbsMcAwesome »Of course it's bad. I'm not disputing that or saying it has potential. I'm saying that wizards printing a card with an artifact qualifier that enables a historically powerful effect is just one of many indications that they won't, and never will, unban the artifact lands. The primary and obvious indicator being the current crop of decks they already slot directly into. There is nothing to gain from unbanning them and there are SEVERAL cards significantly above them on the unban pecking order.
Quote from StubbsMcAwesome »I'm assuming they make new cards with format stability in mind. They do. They've gone on record saying so. You're also parsing the smallest part of the argument. Luckily, we never have to worry about it, as they will never come off the banned list.
Quote from Spsiegel1987 »BBE doesn't keep Jace in check, you're thinking of standard where that was true. The videos on Stevens v Nelson showed that BBE couldn't keep up with just Azcanta itself. You're also cherrypicking the best cases of BBE's cascade. Sometimes it flips downright embarrassing stuff.
Jace shouldn't be remotely considered right now
I mean, look at blue right now. It's doing great. Jace is absolutely off the table as of now.
Quote from Spsiegel1987 »with Jeskai, UW, Kiki, E - T doing well.
we plan to wait for the results of Pro Tour Rivals of Ixalan to evaluate any potential changes for the format
Quote from Earthbound21 »
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