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Quote from AUTUMNTWILIGHT »So then we can expect something to escape the ban list perhaps? I guess it could be SFM if they print a Masters Set with actual Modern Staples.
Quote from Talrand-summoner of skies »Reprints need to be in standard, not limited masters sets, or there needs to be a much greater supply. I didn’t see a single pack of the last masters set (Australia). So printing Zen fetches in a limited set did basically nothing price wise. Also, more modern GPS while great for the evolution of the game, sucks for prices as we will inevitably see more unreasonable price spikes that won’t get reprinted because (oh no chronicles/ reprint equity / let’s not make standard too powerful / insert favourite anti reprint reason)
Quote from idSurge »Quote from Talrand-summoner of skies »Reprints need to be in standard, not limited masters sets, or there needs to be a much greater supply. I didn’t see a single pack of the last masters set (Australia). So printing Zen fetches in a limited set did basically nothing price wise. Also, more modern GPS while great for the evolution of the game, sucks for prices as we will inevitably see more unreasonable price spikes that won’t get reprinted because (oh no chronicles/ reprint equity / let’s not make standard too powerful / insert favourite anti reprint reason)
The fact I got my Tarn's at substantially lower than current value, say's otherwise. Same with my Misty's.
It had an impact at the time. The issue is, they needed to print them again as we have nearly doubled their price (Tarn's) in a year.
Quote from Pistallion »
Theres a very small minority of people even in the MTG Finance community that wants high prices for cards like Tarmo. More people playing Modern/ Magic = more money in the long run. I mean look at Legacy. How long will that format last while the prices for Dual Lands continue to grow consistently? There's a reason Modern exploded within the last few years to becoem the #1 popular format.
Quote from tronix »if wizards commits fully to that path then on some level they are conceding that they cant create adequate standard environments.
Quote from tronix »i dont think its a question of whether reprints are lowering prices, because they are. they just arent doing enough to dent the rate of increase over a long enough period of time.
it just a matter of quantity and the fact that modern shouldn't be the premier constructed format. having new players skip standard entirely isnt good in multiple ways. more high profile reprints, or even being pushed to some sort of modern exclusive set are just treating the symptoms. if wizards commits fully to that path then on some level they are conceding that they cant create adequate standard environments.
imo wizards should focus on making standard both better and considerably cheaper. modern prices will follow.
Quote from mapccu »
I'm all for a cheaper standard. I think the issue is that we have a very high number of hands in the pot, pressure from Hasbro to maintain or increase sales/market share, and a 25 year old game. I'm not directing this at you, but alot of people on here don't get that wizards can't print everything into the dirt - nor do I want them to.
Quote from mapccu »
Just taking up the opposite side of the argument here for conversation sake, but how do you lower prices if you've built a business model that requires a specific threshold of profit to maintain operation. If WotC has created an R & D dept, marketing, pro level support, payout, printing, packaging, story content, website, MTGO, MTGA, etc etc. web that requires say 90% of the sales price of a box - how do you cut the price? Assuming all of the above stay constant excluding variable costs with production - you HAVE to sell more boxes. There is no alternative.
In my eyes, an elegant solution would be for them to gravitate away from new world order and up the complexity of commons/uncommons again. Get constructed level playables out of the vast majority of rare/mythic slots and start costing these cards to move in modern. Heroic could be a great intro style deck if they printed some (albiet pushed) cards that interacted well with the mechanic. New players need a launching pad for the format that costs less than $100-200 USD and remains that way.
Quote from Aazadan » Draft is pushing down the power level of everything.
Quote from idSurge »
I agree. Since I'm currently on the GW 'fair' deck myself, I almost contemplated THINKING about playing current Standard. If they actually gave me a reason, I may do so.
Quote from idSurge »Quote from Aazadan » Draft is pushing down the power level of everything.
I'm firmly of the opinion that Draft is what ruin's Standard.
Quote from idSurge »I dont think 'print them into the ground' is an answer that is at all realistic, or even healthy, for the game.
That said, $400 for a playset of a freaking mana dork, is unacceptable to me.
Quote from Mickymaus31233 »The entitlement and arrogance from some people is astonishing.
There is a simple reason why Wotc is very careful with reprints. A lot of people don't care if prices for cards get nuked as long as they don't own them. Now imagine those people just bought a playset of Snapcaster Mages and Wotc decides to print it as a Rare in a Masters Set.
People would be furious. Now do that a couple of times and customers lose confidence in your product and you start losing money
Quote from Mtgthewary »Guys please opinions on japanese cards. Lost a 3/3 creature against Japan celestial colonade. This guy played all creatures and spells in english cards, but some cards in his manabase was japanese. I dont registrated this really ( my brain say its all fine and all english to me lets attack his empty board)...and i am sure it is a Kind of legal cheating. It is not ok, but i know legal. I Hate such people. I never forget colonade normally, but with this Tricks it can happen one time in 3 years and such people take advantage of this
Quote from sisicat »If I am a customer spending premium amount of dollars, I expect a premium service. Jund falls into the category of a premium deck costing more dollars than a majority of the rest of the format. I'm not getting the desired performance ratio per dollars spent out of the Jund deck because WOTC decided to make the format more diverse.
Everyone mentions the players who will "lose their minds" when their collection value takes a dip due to reprints but I just don't see these people anywhere. I would argue that players almost unanimously want cheaper card prices. If a couple of sweaty, grease-fingered neck beards get bent out of shape, so be it.