MTG Salvation

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I've put up a 4-0 and many 3-1 finishes in MTGO dailies with this deck. The current build:

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Lands - 20 4 Scalding Tarn 4 Misty Rainforest 2 Steam Vents 5 Island 1 Mountain 2 Tectonic Edge 2 Mutavault Creatures - 14 2 Grim Lavamancer 4 Delver of Secrets 4 Young Pyromancer 3 Snapcaster Mage 1 Vendilion Clique	Burn - 6 4 Lightning Bolt 2 Burst Lightning Cantrips - 8 4 Gitaxian Probe 4 Serum Visions Disruption - 12 3 Spell Pierce 2 Spell Snare 4 Mana Leak 2 Remand 1 Blood Moon	Sideboard 2 Dispel 1 Vendilion Clique 1 Trickbind 1 Hibernation 1 Threads of Disloyalty 1 Dismember 2 Flame Slash 2 Combust 1 Vandalblast 1 Blood Moon 2 Spellskite

How has Shackles been for you? I'm interested in this deck, and using Shackles would make me happy, but I don't know how good it would be.

Did you happen to see Jeff Hoogland's modification of this list of yours that he was playing last night?

Also, how are the Tec Edges working out? Seems like for most matchups where they are useful (Tron, UWR, etc.), Blood Moon accomplishes the same thing. My instinct is to go: -2 Tec Edge, +1 Steam Vents, +1 Mutavault. Mutavault is so good in this deck.

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Did you happen to see Jeff Hoogland's modification of this list of yours that he was playing last night?

Here is Jeff's modified list: http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/ur-tempo-02-07-13-1/

Overall Jeff wasn't very happy over it on stream going 2-2 on Dailies twice and has gone back to good ol' SSS with black splash for Go for the Throat. Having Young Pyromancer just makes the deck less inconsistent for incremental value.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/ur-wizards-14-05-13-1/

Interesting. I guess the results are worse, but the YP version seemed to be so promising, especially with Grim Lavamancer.

The 19 land version he used in the first daily was definitely not right. I should think 20 is a minimum, particularly with Tec Edges (which also seemed wrong).

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Interesting. I guess the results are worse, but the YP version seemed to be so promising, especially with Grim Lavamancer.

The 19 land version he used in the first daily was definitely not right. I should think 20 is a minimum, particularly with Tec Edges (which also seemed wrong).

Based on deck lists from daily results here 18-19 lands seems to be the average amount of lands in the 8 cantrip, YP version of UR. They are pretty split on Tecedge VS Mutavault though.

The matches I lost weren't to mana issues. They were largely due to not having enough "action" spells. Deck plays a bunch of cantrips, hurts itself a ton by casting probes and then loses races.

I am pretty sure at this point the Young Pyromancer version of UR is strictly worse than playing Spellstutter in a diverse metagame.

Cheers,
~Jeff

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Based on deck lists from daily results here 18-19 lands seems to be the average amount of lands in the 8 cantrip, YP version of UR. They are pretty split on Tecedge VS Mutavault though.

The matches I lost weren't to mana issues. They were largely due to not having enough "action" spells. Deck plays a bunch of cantrips, hurts itself a ton by casting probes and then loses races.

I am pretty sure at this point the Young Pyromancer version of UR is strictly worse than playing Spellstutter in a diverse metagame.

Cheers,
~Jeff

Thanks for the response! I was watching your stream last night, and this version of the deck definitely seemed to run smoother. The Magma Jets seemed clutch, too.

I think I may try to work some Lavamancers in there, but at this point I doubt they'll fit well. Hard enough flipping Delver as it is.