In a rug delver deck I have I use both tarfire and pyrite spellbomb. They both grow goyf and spellbomb can take out something like etched champion. If you like 6/7 goyfs they're gold.
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How do you like eyes. It seems pretty sweet. You dont really need it for twin mirrors since we are already favored there but it seems pretty decent as a thing vs grixis where they probably wont be able to remove it and counterspells become real liabilities or basically just uncastable
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Legacy: UWxuwr miracles and stonebladeUWx
Commander: UWRShu Yun/Ruhan SmashUWR
@Boaz Most of the time Tarfire acts like a 5th bolt, against delver, clique, hierarch, affinity stuffs, etc. For mishra's bauble it's like a "free" scry1 I know that it's a terrible topdeck in lategame so most part of the time I'm cracking the bauble on my own library and then cracking fetch if I don't like what I see.
Sarkhan does a decent work it takes 1 turn less to kill than Keranos and it fills up my hand in lategame in counterpart he's so much weak. High risk high reward.
@alpinefroggy Eyes of the wisent it's so big against grixis, here in France there's a lot of grixis deck and this cards it's just a pain in the ass for them, playing this on t3 with spell snare or dispel backup means good game, they are forced to use Snapcaster on their own turn and this result on a big control of the board. If you ever feel having a bad matchup against them I highly recommend to try this card :).
I apologize for not being word perfect in English! It's not my mother tongue.
There tends to be a few twin decks a few grixis and a bug deck so it would be a thing. I think I will try it.
Pyroclasm only shines vs Elves maybe burn or Affinity, our affinity matchup is good to begin with. Problem with Radiant Flames is that it costs 3 mana which can easily be a turn to late. My first instinct is that it's Pyroclasm or Anger of the Gods if Abzan Compamy is running rampant in your meta.
That new Nature's Claim Variant: it seems it could fit our strategy. Only things Natural State doesn't hit are Leylines and Twin, and we are heavily favored in the Twin matchup anyway.
I think Kozileks return could be a thing
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Hopefully you can help me. What makes this Twin version "better" than the other ones? When would you play Temur Twin instead of UR or Grixis? What are the pros and cons? Thanks for help
I've done this research prior to picking up UR (as a starting point) some 10 weeks ago. From what I understood:
- Grixis grinds and disrupts combo better, but its painful mana base makes him softer to aggro
- Temur beats and clocks better, fares better against aggro, but isn't really all-in on the combo so you sorta gotta work
- UR focuses on combo, and tempos better. It's also super consistent and plays an optimal Blood Moon game. Obviously it got no green beaters and lifegain, nor black disruption, so the focus could be seen as "narrower".
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Is it time for 1 or 2 Bribery in the board with Eldrazi + Tron having a shared metagame of 14%?
I completely forgot about that card and that seems like it would be good seeing as Ulamog is the scariest thing they have.
I'm also considering running stormbreath dragon in the sideboard instead of keranos to hit the Eldrazi deck with a faster clock and it gets past lingering soul tokens while also protecting itself from path to exile as B/W seems to be the more popular version currently.
Well this is pretty ridiculous. My splinter twins are literally in the mail right now. I knew this deck wasn't the best choice in the meta right now but I didn't think it would be this unplayable lol.
What other snapcaster/goyf decks are out there? I don't want to go back to playing Jund(k) right now since it's just going to be tron/eldrazi city.
off the top of my head other decks that run Snapcaster Mage include- Grixis Control,Scapeshift(most recent variants play between 0-2 snapcasters),UWr control, UWr midrange,UB/x Faeries,WUR Delver,4C Gifts (maybe?),Sultai Control,Blue Moon.
and Decks that run Tarmogoyf not jund(k) - Knightfall(maybe?),Naya Company.
There is probably more, but that's all i can name off the top of my head
Good night sweet lurghoyf. May moles of clerics and frog lizards sing thee to thy rest! Its been a nice 1.5 years with this deck for sure and its been my favorite deck but we have to see it go.
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off the top of my head other decks that run Snapcaster Mage include- Grixis Control,Scapeshift(most recent variants play between 0-2 snapcasters),UWr control, UWr midrange,UB/x Faeries,WUR Delver,4C Gifts (maybe?),Sultai Control,Blue Moon.
and Decks that run Tarmogoyf not jund(k) - Knightfall(maybe?),Naya Company.
There is probably more, but that's all i can name off the top of my head
Temur Delver, Temur Prowess, counter cat
Rug moons and rug midrange/control come to mind as well. If you are really cheeky, tarmoshift
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There are some really solid RUG midrange cards out there right now. My fave new is woodland wanderer. With noble hierarch it's easy to drop a vigilant trampling 6/6 turn four.
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How do you like eyes. It seems pretty sweet. You dont really need it for twin mirrors since we are already favored there but it seems pretty decent as a thing vs grixis where they probably wont be able to remove it and counterspells become real liabilities or basically just uncastable
Modern:
RUGScapeshift[RUG...Occasionally with goyfs
RUGTarmotwinRUG(RIP)
Legacy:
UWxuwr miracles and stonebladeUWx
Commander:
UWRShu Yun/Ruhan SmashUWR
There tends to be a few twin decks a few grixis and a bug deck so it would be a thing. I think I will try it.
Modern:
RUGScapeshift[RUG...Occasionally with goyfs
RUGTarmotwinRUG(RIP)
Legacy:
UWxuwr miracles and stonebladeUWx
Commander:
UWRShu Yun/Ruhan SmashUWR
I think Kozileks return could be a thing
Modern:
RUGScapeshift[RUG...Occasionally with goyfs
RUGTarmotwinRUG(RIP)
Legacy:
UWxuwr miracles and stonebladeUWx
Commander:
UWRShu Yun/Ruhan SmashUWR
- Grixis grinds and disrupts combo better, but its painful mana base makes him softer to aggro
- Temur beats and clocks better, fares better against aggro, but isn't really all-in on the combo so you sorta gotta work
- UR focuses on combo, and tempos better. It's also super consistent and plays an optimal Blood Moon game. Obviously it got no green beaters and lifegain, nor black disruption, so the focus could be seen as "narrower".
OLD SCHOOL 93/94 «The Pain Train» Black Sligh, Esper «Machine Gun» Artifacts, Jund «Psycho» Ponza-Disko.
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I completely forgot about that card and that seems like it would be good seeing as Ulamog is the scariest thing they have.
I'm also considering running stormbreath dragon in the sideboard instead of keranos to hit the Eldrazi deck with a faster clock and it gets past lingering soul tokens while also protecting itself from path to exile as B/W seems to be the more popular version currently.
What other snapcaster/goyf decks are out there? I don't want to go back to playing Jund(k) right now since it's just going to be tron/eldrazi city.
and Decks that run Tarmogoyf not jund(k) - Knightfall(maybe?),Naya Company.
There is probably more, but that's all i can name off the top of my head
Modern:
RUGScapeshift[RUG...Occasionally with goyfs
RUGTarmotwinRUG(RIP)
Legacy:
UWxuwr miracles and stonebladeUWx
Commander:
UWRShu Yun/Ruhan SmashUWR
Rug moons and rug midrange/control come to mind as well. If you are really cheeky, tarmoshift
Modern:
RUGScapeshift[RUG...Occasionally with goyfs
RUGTarmotwinRUG(RIP)
Legacy:
UWxuwr miracles and stonebladeUWx
Commander:
UWRShu Yun/Ruhan SmashUWR
UB Tezzerator
UBW Gifts
B 8Rack
Legacy
RB Goblins
It's been a good run, but with the B&R update now in effect, we are locking this thread down. If you want to continue the banlist discussion, please do so in the banlist thread. If you want to discuss future versions of URx Combo Control, you'll need to either create a new thread or look around the forums for exiting replacement threads.