This actually looks very fun to play! I dont own Bobs so I couldnt put this deck together without a significant financial commitment, but I would LOVE to see some videos of this deck in action.
It looks annoying as all hell to play against!
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I have been meaning on doing this myself. I'll try to do it soon and get some videos up. Plus I plan on running it through some dailies soon.
I feel a lot like Jund it has decent matchups all around. I can't decide what the biggest weaknesses are. Bogles seems like it may be tough with just 3 edict effects.
In any creature matchup it fares pretty well, and I feel it has a better control/combo matchup than Jund with Thalia/Sculler pretty amazing there. (10 discard spells)
YAY! Thank man! Yeah as said in the Primer Bogles is a utter nightmare. The MU pretty much says... "Have a T2-3 Liliana? Nope? Well, scoop now."
Also, any decks with SD'd Thrun/Sigarda is annoying too it's a race pretty much at that point. I did manage to race my opponents T5-6 sigarda with Lingering Souls, Mirran Crusader and a Lavamancer Though. It was close.
Please feel free to put the videos on here in a new post when done. I'm thrilled on what you have to say on the deck.
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Land Wipe Maelstrom Wanderer
Selvala, Hearth of the Wilds Eldrazi
This actually looks very fun to play! I dont own Bobs so I couldnt put this deck together without a significant financial commitment, but I would LOVE to see some videos of this deck in action.
It looks annoying as all hell to play against!
In a way it is, my fathers infect deck struggles slightly with it, for it's removal suite is too much for it.
The fact that white is more abundant in this deck than Jund makes us slightly better for we can cast Path to Exiles more often thus making our removal slightly better.
I myself will try to take this to next Wednesday's modern tourney. Unfortunately I do not have all of the shocks for the deck yet, for I have to still ship my bulk rares to SCG to get store credit for some of them and I have to trade my Scalding Tarn/UG Fetch to a someone who may be willing to trade for Flats/Mesas. Also my Bobs should be here any day now as well.
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Modern:
BR Control
Grixis Bloo
EDH:
Food Chain Prossh
Land Wipe Maelstrom Wanderer
Selvala, Hearth of the Wilds Eldrazi
In a way it is, my fathers infect deck struggles slightly with it, for it's removal suite is too much for it.
The fact that white is more abundant in this deck than Jund makes us slightly better for we can cast Path to Exiles more often thus making our removal slightly better.
I myself will try to take this to next Wednesday's modern tourney. Unfortunately I do not have all of the shocks for the deck yet, for I have to still ship my bulk rares to SCG to get store credit for some of them and I have to trade my Scalding Tarn/UG Fetch to a someone who may be willing to trade for Flats/Mesas. Also my Bobs should be here any day now as well.
Yep uploading the videos now! Here is the deck tech, just go to my channel afterwards to see the rest(they are uploading now.)
Beat infect 2 to 1 first time around against it.
Yep uploading the videos now! Here is the deck tech, just go to my channel afterwards to see the rest(they are uploading now.)
Beat infect 2 to 1 first time around against it.
Thanks very much for doing this again. Just a couple of things on the match ups I've watched as well as the list.
- I would play 4 Bobs, no questions asked. Life loss isn't too much of a problem with MD Helix and Ajani. Then again you only MD'd 2 helix and Ajani was in the SD. So I see why. But this guy is just soooo good.
- On that topic, I would find room for a 3rd helix.
- Ditch the green. The lifegain from DRS isn't worth the mana color inconsistencies.
- Smash to Smithereens > Ancient Grudge, the flash back IMO isn't worth the 3 damage to face. It helps win races. Then again, this could be my new pet card. Idk...
- Rakdos Charm, I've been thinking of this card, I've read somewhere that Living Death doesn't care about things such as Relic and RiP, but rather stuff like Charm. So I may implement this. Good call!
- How is Ranger of Eos been doing? Is it better than Hero of Bladehold considering you get value from the EtB Trigger? Compared to the attack trigger on hero?
- The Thoughtseize/IoK Split how has that been doing? Is 4 discard effects needed? Or is 3 enough?
- The amount of lands, 22, 23 or 24? I run 22 in my list as you can see, but I may go up to 23, with the 23rd maybe being a GQ for our tron match up is iffy as you experienced.
- Is Thalia in the SD worth the tempo loss that it gives us as well?
The only thing during the matches you did I questioned about was during the tron match up. During after the 1st match where you took out the bolts.
I wouldn't of done that. Maybe take out 1, but bolts help you put pressure on the tron player as well as finish off Karns, as well as deal with wurm tokens.
Besides that, love the list!
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Grixis Bloo
EDH:
Food Chain Prossh
Land Wipe Maelstrom Wanderer
Selvala, Hearth of the Wilds Eldrazi
Thanks very much for doing this again. Just a couple of things on the match ups I've watched as well as the list.
- I would play 4 Bobs, no questions asked. Life loss isn't too much of a problem with MD Helix and Ajani. Then again you only MD'd 2 helix and Ajani was in the SD. So I see why. But this guy is just soooo good.
- On that topic, I would find room for a 3rd helix.
- Ditch the green. The lifegain from DRS isn't worth the mana color inconsistencies.
- Smash to Smithereens > Ancient Grudge, the flash back IMO isn't worth the 3 damage to face. It helps win races. Then again, this could be my new pet card. Idk...
- Rakdos Charm, I've been thinking of this card, I've read somewhere that Living Death doesn't care about things such as Relic and RiP, but rather stuff like Charm. So I may implement this. Good call!
- How is Ranger of Eos been doing? Is it better than Hero of Bladehold considering you get value from the EtB Trigger? Compared to the attack trigger on hero?
- The Thoughtseize/IoK Split how has that been doing? Is 4 discard effects needed? Or is 3 enough?
- The amount of lands, 22, 23 or 24? I run 22 in my list as you can see, but I may go up to 23, with the 23rd maybe being a GQ for our tron match up is iffy as you experienced.
- Is Thalia in the SD worth the tempo loss that it gives us as well?
The only thing during the matches you did I questioned about was during the tron match up. During after the 1st match where you took out the bolts.
I wouldn't of done that. Maybe take out 1, but bolts help you put pressure on the tron player as well as finish off Karns, as well as deal with wurm tokens.
Besides that, love the list!
I don't really feel that the green in the manabase hurts it at all, and it is quite relevant not just for lifegain but as creature hate against living end/scavenging ooze and such.
Grudge is a 2 for 1 and probably superior for that. Getting 1 green source is almost never a problem with 8 fetches to grab it.
Pretty sure ranger is superior to hero. Hero is more likely to lose you games if it gets instantly path/dismembered. Ranger may take you an extra turn to win, but it is safer.
I like the 2/2 split because of the lifeloss. You could run 1-2 more seize in the board if you have a combo heavy meta.
I think the thalia is fine in the side. usually they will just kill it and slow themselves down doing so.
I used to run 1 more helix 1 less path, but i rather have a bit more strength vs wurmcoil and tarmo.
I don't really feel that the green in the manabase hurts it at all, and it is quite relevant not just for lifegain but as creature hate against living end/scavenging ooze and such.
Grudge is a 2 for 1 and probably superior for that. Getting 1 green source is almost never a problem with 8 fetches to grab it.
Pretty sure ranger is superior to hero. Hero is more likely to lose you games if it gets instantly path/dismembered. Ranger may take you an extra turn to win, but it is safer.
I like the 2/2 split because of the lifeloss. You could run 1-2 more seize in the board if you have a combo heavy meta.
I think the thalia is fine in the side. usually they will just kill it and slow themselves down doing so.
I used to run 1 more helix 1 less path, but i rather have a bit more strength vs wurmcoil and tarmo.
All right thanks for the info.
I'll try splashing green again. I'll also keep a eye our for anyone that has IoKs for trade tomorrow.
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Land Wipe Maelstrom Wanderer
Selvala, Hearth of the Wilds Eldrazi
Fought someone's Fish deck and Junk Melira Pod Deck.
The match up against fish is hard, for we have to know what to kill at the right time. If they get too many lords on the board, we die. Their counter backup is annoying to get past as well.
What's some good side board cards for a against fish? Does anyone know?
Also, Hero of Bladeholds are amazing. Got 2 turn 4 heros against the pod deck, and he scooped.
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Grixis Bloo
EDH:
Food Chain Prossh
Land Wipe Maelstrom Wanderer
Selvala, Hearth of the Wilds Eldrazi
Hard to say with fish... Volcanic fallout or combust are decent. I really want to try some bonfire of the damned for random blowouts against the creature decks. See if it impresses me.
Also Mikaeus, the lunarch as a 1 of tutor target for Ranger perhaps. It pumps your whole team or is just a big 4/4 or 5/5 that grows.
Hard to say with fish... Volcanic fallout or combust are decent. I really want to try some bonfire of the damned for random blowouts against the creature decks. See if it impresses me.
Also Mikaeus, the lunarch as a 1 of tutor target for Ranger perhaps. It pumps your whole team or is just a big 4/4 or 5/5 that grows.
So far, bonfire as a 2 of in the side hasn't impressed me, the one time I sided it against fish, I drew it in my beginning hand. Sad day. Maybe one more in the sideboard? I don't know.
As for fallout, I REALLY don't want to blow up my own dudes, but it's not a bad card.
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Modern:
BR Control
Grixis Bloo
EDH:
Food Chain Prossh
Land Wipe Maelstrom Wanderer
Selvala, Hearth of the Wilds Eldrazi
I put together a BWR midrange deck similar to Bahra, basically Jund with white instead of green (though I splash it for Deathrite Shaman.) It seems to have many of the advantages of Jund. I have played against hatebears and melira pod. Both match-ups feel positive, but I think those match-ups are good for decks that play a lot of removal. So I still would like to see how it does against regular Jund, Tron, and Twin.
I'm thinking about cutting the swords though, they definitely close games out, but have only really made a difference once. In the rest of the games one landed I probably would have won anyway. Might be good in sideboard against UWR.
I put together a BWR midrange deck similar to Bahra, basically Jund with white instead of green (though I splash it for Deathrite Shaman.) It seems to have many of the advantages of Jund. I have played against hatebears and melira pod. Both match-ups feel positive, but I think those match-ups are good for decks that play a lot of removal. So I still would like to see how it does against regular Jund, Tron, and Twin.
I'm thinking about cutting the swords though, they definitely close games out, but have only really made a difference once. In the rest of the games one landed I probably would have won anyway. Might be good in sideboard against UWR.
The swords are pretty invaluable IMO. I side them out a fair amount, but they really give lingering souls alot more value.
I kind of want to make a more aggro version with some Falkenrath Aristocrat since I love that card. Just not sure if it would work.
The swords are pretty invaluable IMO. I side them out a fair amount, but they really give lingering souls alot more value.
I kind of want to make a more aggro version with some Falkenrath Aristocrat since I love that card. Just not sure if it would work.
LS certainly makes the swords better, but I'm not sure if just other good cards, or planeswalkers wouldn't just be better. A sword on t3 is a big tempo loss, and so I usually wait until I can play, equip, and attack to drop the sword. It's great when it works, but just seems fragile. There's just a lot I could do with 5 mana that doesn't get taken down by a removal spell.
I think the creator of the topic forgot to give credits for this deck to its true creators: Bahra and Equinox_br.
It's a poor copy of the Modern Team Italia they built it.
Yep, me and Bahra developed the deck, but not exactly together. I built my version and he built his version, then one time I saw his stream and we started to develop/test at the same time sharing test info.
Yep, me and Bahra developed the deck, but not exactly together. I built my version and he built his version, then one time I saw his stream and we started to develop/test at the same time sharing test info.
It looks annoying as all hell to play against!
RGOmnath, Locus of ManaRG
URThe Locust godUR
Modern
UWMiraclesUW
Legacy
BGIce Station Zebra (Living Fins)BG
UBRGrixis ControlUBR
RGLandsRG
YAY! Thank man! Yeah as said in the Primer Bogles is a utter nightmare. The MU pretty much says... "Have a T2-3 Liliana? Nope? Well, scoop now."
Also, any decks with SD'd Thrun/Sigarda is annoying too it's a race pretty much at that point. I did manage to race my opponents T5-6 sigarda with Lingering Souls, Mirran Crusader and a Lavamancer Though. It was close.
Please feel free to put the videos on here in a new post when done. I'm thrilled on what you have to say on the deck.
Modern:
BR Control
Grixis Bloo
EDH:
Food Chain Prossh
Land Wipe Maelstrom Wanderer
Selvala, Hearth of the Wilds Eldrazi
In a way it is, my fathers infect deck struggles slightly with it, for it's removal suite is too much for it.
The fact that white is more abundant in this deck than Jund makes us slightly better for we can cast Path to Exiles more often thus making our removal slightly better.
I myself will try to take this to next Wednesday's modern tourney. Unfortunately I do not have all of the shocks for the deck yet, for I have to still ship my bulk rares to SCG to get store credit for some of them and I have to trade my Scalding Tarn/UG Fetch to a someone who may be willing to trade for Flats/Mesas. Also my Bobs should be here any day now as well.
Modern:
BR Control
Grixis Bloo
EDH:
Food Chain Prossh
Land Wipe Maelstrom Wanderer
Selvala, Hearth of the Wilds Eldrazi
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfFE0ooVVl4B2QMLh0ZO0_w?feature=watch
Yep uploading the videos now! Here is the deck tech, just go to my channel afterwards to see the rest(they are uploading now.)
Beat infect 2 to 1 first time around against it.
Thanks very much for doing this again. Just a couple of things on the match ups I've watched as well as the list.
- I would play 4 Bobs, no questions asked. Life loss isn't too much of a problem with MD Helix and Ajani. Then again you only MD'd 2 helix and Ajani was in the SD. So I see why. But this guy is just soooo good.
- On that topic, I would find room for a 3rd helix.
- Ditch the green. The lifegain from DRS isn't worth the mana color inconsistencies.
- Smash to Smithereens > Ancient Grudge, the flash back IMO isn't worth the 3 damage to face. It helps win races. Then again, this could be my new pet card. Idk...
- Rakdos Charm, I've been thinking of this card, I've read somewhere that Living Death doesn't care about things such as Relic and RiP, but rather stuff like Charm. So I may implement this. Good call!
- How is Ranger of Eos been doing? Is it better than Hero of Bladehold considering you get value from the EtB Trigger? Compared to the attack trigger on hero?
- The Thoughtseize/IoK Split how has that been doing? Is 4 discard effects needed? Or is 3 enough?
- The amount of lands, 22, 23 or 24? I run 22 in my list as you can see, but I may go up to 23, with the 23rd maybe being a GQ for our tron match up is iffy as you experienced.
- Is Thalia in the SD worth the tempo loss that it gives us as well?
The only thing during the matches you did I questioned about was during the tron match up. During after the 1st match where you took out the bolts.
I wouldn't of done that. Maybe take out 1, but bolts help you put pressure on the tron player as well as finish off Karns, as well as deal with wurm tokens.
Besides that, love the list!
Modern:
BR Control
Grixis Bloo
EDH:
Food Chain Prossh
Land Wipe Maelstrom Wanderer
Selvala, Hearth of the Wilds Eldrazi
Main Deck:
-1 Path to Exile
-1 Mountain
-2 Aven Mindcensor
+1 Ghost Quarter
+1 Overgrown Tomb
+1 Stomping Ground
+1 Baneslayer Angel
Side Deck:
-2 Relic of Progenitus
+2 Rakdos Charm
Modern:
BR Control
Grixis Bloo
EDH:
Food Chain Prossh
Land Wipe Maelstrom Wanderer
Selvala, Hearth of the Wilds Eldrazi
I don't really feel that the green in the manabase hurts it at all, and it is quite relevant not just for lifegain but as creature hate against living end/scavenging ooze and such.
Grudge is a 2 for 1 and probably superior for that. Getting 1 green source is almost never a problem with 8 fetches to grab it.
Pretty sure ranger is superior to hero. Hero is more likely to lose you games if it gets instantly path/dismembered. Ranger may take you an extra turn to win, but it is safer.
I like the 2/2 split because of the lifeloss. You could run 1-2 more seize in the board if you have a combo heavy meta.
I think the thalia is fine in the side. usually they will just kill it and slow themselves down doing so.
I used to run 1 more helix 1 less path, but i rather have a bit more strength vs wurmcoil and tarmo.
All right thanks for the info.
I'll try splashing green again. I'll also keep a eye our for anyone that has IoKs for trade tomorrow.
Modern:
BR Control
Grixis Bloo
EDH:
Food Chain Prossh
Land Wipe Maelstrom Wanderer
Selvala, Hearth of the Wilds Eldrazi
Fought someone's Fish deck and Junk Melira Pod Deck.
The match up against fish is hard, for we have to know what to kill at the right time. If they get too many lords on the board, we die. Their counter backup is annoying to get past as well.
What's some good side board cards for a against fish? Does anyone know?
Also, Hero of Bladeholds are amazing. Got 2 turn 4 heros against the pod deck, and he scooped.
Modern:
BR Control
Grixis Bloo
EDH:
Food Chain Prossh
Land Wipe Maelstrom Wanderer
Selvala, Hearth of the Wilds Eldrazi
Also Mikaeus, the lunarch as a 1 of tutor target for Ranger perhaps. It pumps your whole team or is just a big 4/4 or 5/5 that grows.
So far, bonfire as a 2 of in the side hasn't impressed me, the one time I sided it against fish, I drew it in my beginning hand. Sad day. Maybe one more in the sideboard? I don't know.
As for fallout, I REALLY don't want to blow up my own dudes, but it's not a bad card.
Modern:
BR Control
Grixis Bloo
EDH:
Food Chain Prossh
Land Wipe Maelstrom Wanderer
Selvala, Hearth of the Wilds Eldrazi
Modern:
BR Control
Grixis Bloo
EDH:
Food Chain Prossh
Land Wipe Maelstrom Wanderer
Selvala, Hearth of the Wilds Eldrazi
Modern:
BR Control
Grixis Bloo
EDH:
Food Chain Prossh
Land Wipe Maelstrom Wanderer
Selvala, Hearth of the Wilds Eldrazi
I'm thinking about cutting the swords though, they definitely close games out, but have only really made a difference once. In the rest of the games one landed I probably would have won anyway. Might be good in sideboard against UWR.
The swords are pretty invaluable IMO. I side them out a fair amount, but they really give lingering souls alot more value.
I kind of want to make a more aggro version with some Falkenrath Aristocrat since I love that card. Just not sure if it would work.
I personally only run a single SoWaP in my Main.
As for the matchups, look on the first post of the Primer, I have the matchup statistics there.
Modern:
BR Control
Grixis Bloo
EDH:
Food Chain Prossh
Land Wipe Maelstrom Wanderer
Selvala, Hearth of the Wilds Eldrazi
LS certainly makes the swords better, but I'm not sure if just other good cards, or planeswalkers wouldn't just be better. A sword on t3 is a big tempo loss, and so I usually wait until I can play, equip, and attack to drop the sword. It's great when it works, but just seems fragile. There's just a lot I could do with 5 mana that doesn't get taken down by a removal spell.
It's a poor copy of the Modern Team Italia they built it.
Yep, me and Bahra developed the deck, but not exactly together. I built my version and he built his version, then one time I saw his stream and we started to develop/test at the same time sharing test info.
My current build is:
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/modern-team-italia-20/
Ohh...my nick name on MTGO and Twitch is Equinox_br.
Moderm - Mono blue Tron and Eldrazi variants
Legacy - Building Eldrazi Stompy
My team for ever ever:
Sport Club Internacional
www.internacional.com.br
Really now? I'm gonna need more proof than this. There's been a lot of people that have probably made this deck before you.
Do you have the link to Bahra's list?
Modern:
BR Control
Grixis Bloo
EDH:
Food Chain Prossh
Land Wipe Maelstrom Wanderer
Selvala, Hearth of the Wilds Eldrazi