Pretty solid LD list. Entourage of Trest looks like a good choice to alleviate the main problem of LD which is running out of gas. If double Red in cost isn't too much of a problem I would suggest looking at Molten Rain or Roiling Terrain over Stone Rain to help close out games faster.
If you're using Gut Shot for faeries then you might want to use Sandstorm of Aerial Volley instead. Gut shot is a nice free spell, but the other options give more value.
If you're using Gut Shot for faeries then you might want to use Sandstorm of Aerial Volley instead. Gut shot is a nice free spell, but the other options give more value.
Gut Shot is vs Elves. They run <16 lands and lean heavily on early mana dorks. Vs Elves i'd SB +4 Gut Shot, -4 Earth Rift.
01/03/2020 play test.
2 games vs Elves.
0-2, no SB.
GR LD is a lost cause vs Elves. They hardly rely on their lands plus all those mana elves... Quirion Ranger even protects Forests.
I had no urge to test out my +4 Gut Shot/-4 Earth Rift SB plan.
Round 2 vs Mono Blue Ninjitsu. 0-2.
-SB: +4 Aerial Volley, -4 Lignify.
-Game 1, I had spare mana so I Lignify'd his creature. He attacked and ninjitsu'd it. Once his first ninja got thru, I had to defend his card advantage while trying to destroy his lands. He's a better player now, compared to the last time we met.
-Game 2, I used Cave of Temptation on a Llanowar Elves instead of Hooting Mandrills b/c he had 1 Island open and I was worried about Vapor Snag, Unsummon or some other 1 drop removal. On board he survived by blocking correctly and living at 1 life. There was a chance I could top deck Aerial Volley off monarch and live but that was an unnecessary risk. My bad.
Round 3 vs Boggles. 2-0.
-SB: +4 Reverent Silence, -4 Lignify.
-I made a bad attack again by leaving him at 1 life. At this point, I openly admitted I'm bad at combat match and recalled how many games I punted in the past by glancing at the board state and attacking conservatively (a control player trait) instead of actually calculating math (an aggro requirement.) Now that I'm accountable for my terribad math, I can work to improve upon it.
-LD + Reverent Silence was just too much for him.
Deck Prize Breakdown:
1st - UW Birds.
2nd - me.
3rd - Mono Blue Ninjitsu.
4th - 8th, idk b/c I left after I got my prize. So in alphabetical order:
-Boggles (2.)
-GB Self-Mill.
-RB Affinity/Madness.
-UB Ninjitsu.
I played the exact same list as last time. Different venue, different meta. What I didn't expect was all these indestructible artifact lands. The hell? LOL
My Boros opponent noted his Revoke Existence hits those pesky indestructible artifact lands. And I already had white mana. So if I take his suggestion seriously (Why not? I don't have any better ideas!) then this is what my new list would look like:
I played the exact same list as last time. Different venue, different meta. What I didn't expect was all these indestructible artifact lands. The hell? LOL
My Boros opponent noted his Revoke Existence hits those pesky indestructible artifact lands. And I already had white mana. So if I take his suggestion seriously (Why not? I don't have any better ideas!) then this is what my new list would look like:
Parting note: ppl be loving Skred today. 3/4 of my opponents ran them.
Any consideration for Reclaiming Vines? Provides some main deck flexibility.
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big receipts
alpha mox emerald
beta time walk
4 goyfs received
3 liliana of the veil
4 karn liberated
3 force of will
4 grove of the burnwillows
snapcaster mage
3 horizon canopy
2 full art damnation
10 Snow-Covered Forest
4 Evolving Wilds
4 Terramorphic Expanse
4 Utopia Sprawl
4 Wild Growth
2 Snow-Covered Mountain
(16) Land Destruction
4 Earth Rift
4 Mwonvuli Acid-Moss
4 Stone Rain
4 Thermokarst
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Skred
(8) Finishers
4 Entourage of Trest
4 Hooting Mandrills
4 Gut Shot
4 Return to Nature
3 Pyroblast
3 Red Elemental Blast
1 Aerial Volley (Credit to Darkninja107.
Arbor Elf didn't make the cut b/c he's fragile. My only other creatures are finishers, so he'll surely eat removal.
limited - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vkfx2kA8gok&feature=emb_logo
limited - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3RYiZJFCK0
limited - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j18HlKybrm8&feature=emb_logo
standard - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiAEzfAgpbI&t=1s
standard - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vNr_4ubfMg&t=1s
standard - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJcwpxraL-g&t=1s
modern - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8MyVNLVYNw&t=1s
modern - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-M5ffoArnY&t=1s
modern - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_yQEBOPi_w&feature=emb_logo
extended - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLpUB9zpyr4&feature=emb_logo
If you're using Gut Shot for faeries then you might want to use Sandstorm of Aerial Volley instead. Gut shot is a nice free spell, but the other options give more value.
Gut Shot is vs Elves. They run <16 lands and lean heavily on early mana dorks. Vs Elves i'd SB +4 Gut Shot, -4 Earth Rift.
Thanks for the feedback!
limited - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vkfx2kA8gok&feature=emb_logo
limited - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3RYiZJFCK0
limited - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j18HlKybrm8&feature=emb_logo
standard - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiAEzfAgpbI&t=1s
standard - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vNr_4ubfMg&t=1s
standard - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJcwpxraL-g&t=1s
modern - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8MyVNLVYNw&t=1s
modern - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-M5ffoArnY&t=1s
modern - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_yQEBOPi_w&feature=emb_logo
extended - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLpUB9zpyr4&feature=emb_logo
2 games vs Elves.
0-2, no SB.
GR LD is a lost cause vs Elves. They hardly rely on their lands plus all those mana elves... Quirion Ranger even protects Forests.
I had no urge to test out my +4 Gut Shot/-4 Earth Rift SB plan.
I don't think SB +3 Swirling Sandstorm, -3 Red Elemental Blast would make up for all my dead LD.
I don't run Swirling Sandstorm b/c the threshold requirement contradicts Hooting Mandrills delve feature. Also, SS kills all my finishers, esp Entourage of Trest (which would just hand monarch over to them.)
My LGS has an Elves regular so i'm taking this deck out of circulation until further notice.
limited - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vkfx2kA8gok&feature=emb_logo
limited - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3RYiZJFCK0
limited - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j18HlKybrm8&feature=emb_logo
standard - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiAEzfAgpbI&t=1s
standard - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vNr_4ubfMg&t=1s
standard - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJcwpxraL-g&t=1s
modern - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8MyVNLVYNw&t=1s
modern - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-M5ffoArnY&t=1s
modern - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_yQEBOPi_w&feature=emb_logo
extended - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLpUB9zpyr4&feature=emb_logo
"Mean-Green, LD Machine"
14 Forest
4 Kabira Crossroads
4 Radiant Fountain
2 Cave of Temptation
(16) Land Destruction:
4 Drain the Well
4 Mwonvuli Acid-Moss
4 Reap and Sow
4 Thermokarst
4 Lignify
(16) Creatures:
4 Elvish Mystic
4 Entourage of Trest
4 Hooting Mandrills
4 Llanowar Elves
4 Aerial Volley
4 Reverent Silence
4 Trufflesnout
3 Bojuka Bog*
*vs Tron, +3 Bojuka Bog, -3 Kabira Crossroads.
Round 1 vs RB Affinity/Madness. 2-0.
-SB: +4 Trufflesnout, -4 Lignify.
-His deck wasn't tuned to beat mine. He ran Rakdos Carnarium, a juicy LD target. He also ran snow-covered lands, which hilariously gained me 1 life off Thermokarst! Versus burn, I'll take it
-Reap and Sow fetched Kabira Crossroads and Radiant Fountain. They kept my life healthy vs his burn.
Round 2 vs Mono Blue Ninjitsu. 0-2.
-SB: +4 Aerial Volley, -4 Lignify.
-Game 1, I had spare mana so I Lignify'd his creature. He attacked and ninjitsu'd it. Once his first ninja got thru, I had to defend his card advantage while trying to destroy his lands. He's a better player now, compared to the last time we met.
-Game 2, I used Cave of Temptation on a Llanowar Elves instead of Hooting Mandrills b/c he had 1 Island open and I was worried about Vapor Snag, Unsummon or some other 1 drop removal. On board he survived by blocking correctly and living at 1 life. There was a chance I could top deck Aerial Volley off monarch and live but that was an unnecessary risk. My bad.
Round 3 vs Boggles. 2-0.
-SB: +4 Reverent Silence, -4 Lignify.
-I made a bad attack again by leaving him at 1 life. At this point, I openly admitted I'm bad at combat match and recalled how many games I punted in the past by glancing at the board state and attacking conservatively (a control player trait) instead of actually calculating math (an aggro requirement.) Now that I'm accountable for my terribad math, I can work to improve upon it.
-LD + Reverent Silence was just too much for him.
Deck Prize Breakdown:
1st - UW Birds.
2nd - me.
3rd - Mono Blue Ninjitsu.
4th - 8th, idk b/c I left after I got my prize. So in alphabetical order:
-Boggles (2.)
-GB Self-Mill.
-RB Affinity/Madness.
-UB Ninjitsu.
limited - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vkfx2kA8gok&feature=emb_logo
limited - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3RYiZJFCK0
limited - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j18HlKybrm8&feature=emb_logo
standard - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiAEzfAgpbI&t=1s
standard - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vNr_4ubfMg&t=1s
standard - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJcwpxraL-g&t=1s
modern - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8MyVNLVYNw&t=1s
modern - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-M5ffoArnY&t=1s
modern - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_yQEBOPi_w&feature=emb_logo
extended - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLpUB9zpyr4&feature=emb_logo
I played the exact same list as last time. Different venue, different meta. What I didn't expect was all these indestructible artifact lands. The hell? LOL
My Boros opponent noted his Revoke Existence hits those pesky indestructible artifact lands. And I already had white mana. So if I take his suggestion seriously (Why not? I don't have any better ideas!) then this is what my new list would look like:
"White-Green, Selesnya Machine"
14 Forest
4 Kabira Crossroads
4 Radiant Fountain
2 Cave of Temptation
(16) Land Destruction:
4 Drain the Well
4 Mwonvuli Acid-Moss
4 Reap and Sow
4 Thermokarst
4 Lignify
(16) Creatures:
4 Elvish Mystic
4 Entourage of Trest
4 Hooting Mandrills
4 Llanowar Elves
4 Aerial Volley
4 Reverent Silence
4 Trufflesnout
2 Revoke Existence
1 Bojuka Bog
Parting note: ppl be loving Skred today. 3/4 of my opponents ran them.
limited - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vkfx2kA8gok&feature=emb_logo
limited - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3RYiZJFCK0
limited - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j18HlKybrm8&feature=emb_logo
standard - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiAEzfAgpbI&t=1s
standard - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vNr_4ubfMg&t=1s
standard - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJcwpxraL-g&t=1s
modern - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8MyVNLVYNw&t=1s
modern - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-M5ffoArnY&t=1s
modern - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_yQEBOPi_w&feature=emb_logo
extended - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLpUB9zpyr4&feature=emb_logo
Any consideration for Reclaiming Vines? Provides some main deck flexibility.
pucatrade
big receipts
alpha mox emerald
beta time walk
4 goyfs received
3 liliana of the veil
4 karn liberated
3 force of will
4 grove of the burnwillows
snapcaster mage
3 horizon canopy
2 full art damnation
I've never dealt w/annoying artifacts or enchantments (besides indestructible artifact lands) except vs UrzaTron. And the LD plan is what works there.
Thermokarst is the best LD b/c it's 3 mana.
Mwonvuli Acid-Moss is 2nd best b/c it ramps you.
Drain the Well is 3rd best b/c it helps you stabilize vs RDW.
Reap and Sow is last b/c you need 6 mana for value.
I'd suggest testing my list 1st to see if artifacts and enchantments bother you. If you still need Reclaiming Vines, cut Reap and Sow for it.
limited - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vkfx2kA8gok&feature=emb_logo
limited - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3RYiZJFCK0
limited - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j18HlKybrm8&feature=emb_logo
standard - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiAEzfAgpbI&t=1s
standard - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vNr_4ubfMg&t=1s
standard - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJcwpxraL-g&t=1s
modern - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8MyVNLVYNw&t=1s
modern - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-M5ffoArnY&t=1s
modern - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_yQEBOPi_w&feature=emb_logo
extended - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLpUB9zpyr4&feature=emb_logo