This is why I haven't played MTGO online for a couple of weeks now. Also it is so scummy they will ban one or more companions AFTER they buy this set on the 15th. You know its going to happen.
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I am hoping this breaks up the combo winter/spring/summer that has seemed endless. I may start playing MTGO again if they nerf the 3 combo decks. If not I may not return to Pioneer MTGO at all.
Lastly, c'mon WotC, why did I have to go search for this on Twitter??? These announcements should be on the mothersite in the News section. Get your crap in order!
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I can see at least part of the inverter combo being banned, most likely either oracle or inverter IMO. I don't know if dig will be banned but it seems really good
Yes I do. More enjoyable to play in paper. Actually got 2 quick games in today on MTGO. First time I have played in a couple of months online. How about yourself, paper too? I may play more online if the bans suit me, guess we will see.
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I can see at least part of the inverter combo being banned, most likely either oracle or inverter IMO. I don't know if dig will be banned but it seems really good
If all they ban is Dig Through Time I will probably go on a long hibernation from Pioneer on MTGO. Longer than the 2 month one I just took. I don't want to play against the same decks over and over, ad infinitum. Its boring. I will stick to paper if so.
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BOO!!! Give me a break, this won't do a D@#N thing to the lock that Inverter, Breach and Heliod have on the meta.
Looks like I am giving up on Pioneer until they pull their heads out of their backsides.
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oath of nissa being unbanned seemed a bit odd to me as the only decision in regards to pioneer. The only thing I can see in regards to this is that they are trying to encourage more decks in attempts to increase diversity
oath of nissa being unbanned seemed a bit odd to me as the only decision in regards to pioneer. The only thing I can see in regards to this is that they are trying to encourage more decks in attempts to increase diversity
Just a bit odd?
No one ANYWHERE was asking for the card to be unbanned. It should have come with at least one ban Thassa's Oracle. Nope they dropped the ball once again. I really don't think they have anyone monitoring Pioneer at this time, they are out of touch. After they gave up on the weekly ban possibilities, they moved anyone monitoring it to some other position/mission. So now we get this, an out of touch, inept Pioneer monitoring group. Sad
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I'd say its evolving. There's already a new Lotus Field deck crushing leagues, and its the same basis that existed before Underworld Breach came out.
Back to Lotus Field + Thespian's Stage.
I think Lotus Field needs to go as well. Uro is almost as bad Oko ever was. Wouldn't shed a tear to see him go. The format seems to be withering. I think some fresh bannings would stir interest NOT lower interest.
The format needs a Pioneer Masters set now not in a year as well.
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I think Lotus Field needs to go as well. Uro is almost as bad Oko ever was. Wouldn't shed a tear to see him go. The format seems to be withering. I think some fresh bannings would stir interest NOT lower interest.
The format needs a Pioneer Masters set now not in a year as well.
Pretty much. The metagame looks pretty diverse on goldfish until you realise that a third of all decks are some just variation of abusing Omnath and/or Uro and/or T3feri with a lot of them splashing black for Thoughtseize. Its easy to tell how much lower interest there is in the format now compared to when it opened up. WOTC needs to drop some ban hammers quick if they want to salvage this.
I think Lotus Field needs to go as well. Uro is almost as bad Oko ever was. Wouldn't shed a tear to see him go. The format seems to be withering. I think some fresh bannings would stir interest NOT lower interest.
The format needs a Pioneer Masters set now not in a year as well.
Pretty much. The metagame looks pretty diverse on goldfish until you realise that a third of all decks are some just variation of abusing Omnath and/or Uro and/or T3feri with a lot of them splashing black for Thoughtseize. Its easy to tell how much lower interest there is in the format now compared to when it opened up. WOTC needs to drop some ban hammers quick if they want to salvage this.
Couldn't have said it better myself. The format is dying on the vine. They will use covid as an excuse but its way more than that. Its all Thoughtseize, Fatal Push, Spirits, Teferi and a bunch of degenerate decks that abuse some mechanic to put them over the top. Only certain mythic and rare creatures can be played. 95% of the Pioneer cardpool is effectively banned as it is jank versus the pushed cards.
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If Red or Blue get too strong at that point then start surgical cutting from those colors. And with Ramp the way it is Green needs to be put on notice as well.
Time to clean this degenerate format up and inject better answers into it. 7,339 legal cards in the format and only about 200 or 300 are playable. 95% of the cards in the format are being held hostage by pushed degenerate cards. (Yes I know a huge chunk of those 95% are unplayable draft chaff.) Pioneer is basically Modern now in the course of barely a year. Time to tone it down.
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Benjamin Franklin: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Martin Luther King Jr.: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
Goodbye Uro-trash. And goodbye Teferi, hope you never return. Killing Oops all spells is nice and Wilderness Reclamation is VERY appreciated in this ban.
Kudos WotC. You got it just about right this go around in Pioneer.
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https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/pioneer#paper
This is why I haven't played MTGO online for a couple of weeks now. Also it is so scummy they will ban one or more companions AFTER they buy this set on the 15th. You know its going to happen.
STOP using "dude/bro" as a pejorative or insult. Grow up.
Margaret Thatcher: “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”
Benjamin Franklin: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Martin Luther King Jr.: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
http://mythicspoiler.com/m21/cards/villagerites.html
I think are next potential ban
https://twitter.com/wizards_magic/status/1280564682009399296?lang=en
I am hoping this breaks up the combo winter/spring/summer that has seemed endless. I may start playing MTGO again if they nerf the 3 combo decks. If not I may not return to Pioneer MTGO at all.
Lastly, c'mon WotC, why did I have to go search for this on Twitter??? These announcements should be on the mothersite in the News section. Get your crap in order!
STOP using "dude/bro" as a pejorative or insult. Grow up.
Margaret Thatcher: “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”
Benjamin Franklin: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Martin Luther King Jr.: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
Inverter of Truth
Dig Through Time
Thassa's Oracle
Heliod, Sun-Crowned
Underworld Breach
???
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I do believe the rest of the cards are fine.
Do you play Pioneer on paper as well Prime?
Neheb
Marath
Yidris
Sharuum
Yidris
Yes I do. More enjoyable to play in paper. Actually got 2 quick games in today on MTGO. First time I have played in a couple of months online. How about yourself, paper too? I may play more online if the bans suit me, guess we will see.
STOP using "dude/bro" as a pejorative or insult. Grow up.
Margaret Thatcher: “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”
Benjamin Franklin: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Martin Luther King Jr.: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
If all they ban is Dig Through Time I will probably go on a long hibernation from Pioneer on MTGO. Longer than the 2 month one I just took. I don't want to play against the same decks over and over, ad infinitum. Its boring. I will stick to paper if so.
STOP using "dude/bro" as a pejorative or insult. Grow up.
Margaret Thatcher: “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”
Benjamin Franklin: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Martin Luther King Jr.: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/july-13-2020-banned-and-restricted-announcement-2020-07-13?>dsf
BOO!!! Give me a break, this won't do a D@#N thing to the lock that Inverter, Breach and Heliod have on the meta.
Looks like I am giving up on Pioneer until they pull their heads out of their backsides.
STOP using "dude/bro" as a pejorative or insult. Grow up.
Margaret Thatcher: “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”
Benjamin Franklin: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Martin Luther King Jr.: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
Just a bit odd?
No one ANYWHERE was asking for the card to be unbanned. It should have come with at least one ban Thassa's Oracle. Nope they dropped the ball once again. I really don't think they have anyone monitoring Pioneer at this time, they are out of touch. After they gave up on the weekly ban possibilities, they moved anyone monitoring it to some other position/mission. So now we get this, an out of touch, inept Pioneer monitoring group. Sad
STOP using "dude/bro" as a pejorative or insult. Grow up.
Margaret Thatcher: “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”
Benjamin Franklin: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Martin Luther King Jr.: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/august-8-2020-banned-and-restricted-announcement
Frenzy-Affinity-Ghost Quarter-Rock-Tokens- RGWPhyrexian Zoo- WVial KnightsStandard:
BW Knights(Rotated)Pioneer: RW Knights - BW Rally Zombies - UW Heroes
Commander:WUG
Jenara, Asura of War- WGSigarda, Host of HeronsCasualties of economicsLegacy: Good-night, sweet prince. Mono-R Burn
Looks like I may start playing MTGO again.
Good Riddance to:
Inverter of Truth
Underworld Breach
Walking Ballista
I guess I'm also good with Kethis, the Hidden Hand as it combos with who knows what???
Combo Winter/Spring/Summer is now basically over.
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Margaret Thatcher: “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”
Benjamin Franklin: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Martin Luther King Jr.: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
I'd say its evolving. There's already a new Lotus Field deck crushing leagues, and its the same basis that existed before Underworld Breach came out.
Back to Lotus Field + Thespian's Stage.
I think Lotus Field needs to go as well. Uro is almost as bad Oko ever was. Wouldn't shed a tear to see him go. The format seems to be withering. I think some fresh bannings would stir interest NOT lower interest.
The format needs a Pioneer Masters set now not in a year as well.
STOP using "dude/bro" as a pejorative or insult. Grow up.
Margaret Thatcher: “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”
Benjamin Franklin: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Martin Luther King Jr.: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
Pretty much. The metagame looks pretty diverse on goldfish until you realise that a third of all decks are some just variation of abusing Omnath and/or Uro and/or T3feri with a lot of them splashing black for Thoughtseize. Its easy to tell how much lower interest there is in the format now compared to when it opened up. WOTC needs to drop some ban hammers quick if they want to salvage this.
Couldn't have said it better myself. The format is dying on the vine. They will use covid as an excuse but its way more than that. Its all Thoughtseize, Fatal Push, Spirits, Teferi and a bunch of degenerate decks that abuse some mechanic to put them over the top. Only certain mythic and rare creatures can be played. 95% of the Pioneer cardpool is effectively banned as it is jank versus the pushed cards.
STOP using "dude/bro" as a pejorative or insult. Grow up.
Margaret Thatcher: “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”
Benjamin Franklin: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Martin Luther King Jr.: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
I would also port in through a Pioneer Masters
If Red or Blue get too strong at that point then start surgical cutting from those colors. And with Ramp the way it is Green needs to be put on notice as well.
Time to clean this degenerate format up and inject better answers into it. 7,339 legal cards in the format and only about 200 or 300 are playable. 95% of the cards in the format are being held hostage by pushed degenerate cards. (Yes I know a huge chunk of those 95% are unplayable draft chaff.) Pioneer is basically Modern now in the course of barely a year. Time to tone it down.
STOP using "dude/bro" as a pejorative or insult. Grow up.
Margaret Thatcher: “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”
Benjamin Franklin: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Martin Luther King Jr.: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
Teferi, Time Raveler is banned.
Undercity Informer is banned.
Uro, Titan of Nature's Wrath is banned.
Wilderness Reclamation is banned.
Goodbye, T3feri
Goodbye Uro-trash. And goodbye Teferi, hope you never return. Killing Oops all spells is nice and Wilderness Reclamation is VERY appreciated in this ban.
Kudos WotC. You got it just about right this go around in Pioneer.
(Lotus Field or Thespian Stage still need to go.)
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