As an exercise in deck building, this thread will have a sealed pool each week. The pool will be taken out of a different cube each time. Here's how it works:
1.) On a Monday, someone posts a sealed pool of 6x15=90 cards from his cube.
2.) Anyone who wants to participate, can build a deck from this pool and send this deck to the cube's owner via PM. Do not discuss the pool in the thread yet. It's recommended to give some explanations/remarks with the decklist.
3.) Around Wednesday or Thursday, the cube's owner posts the decklists he got.
4.) For the rest of the week, the decklists can be discussed.
5.) Also, it should be determined who is next to post a pool.
6.) At the next monday, the next pool is posted by whoever has been chosen to do so.
When determining who's next i expect everyone to use some common sense, i reckon we can do this without having to employ any formulas or stricter rules. If someone didn't post a pool yet, he gets prreference over someone who did.
Props go to Usman who came up with this idea and the thread and to Silent Edge who first noted this should be a regular activity.
I have an idea, to post a cube sealed pool (from my current cube) and for you to make a deck from it. I'd like to see how final decks end up.
However, do not post your deck, information about your deck nor observations on the sealed pool, in a reply to this thread, instead send me a PM by this Thursday (August 20, 2009) at 1:00 PM Eastern Standard time (GMT -5) with the deck! I want to do it via PM so people don't use other decks and insights for information on how to create the deck.
I think I'll have to find time to give this a try. I know I have some room for improvement. Sealed deck with the cube can be a bit baffling for me since there are so many good cards.
This'll be so helpful. I'd like to get critique on how I build my decks. Having said that, I should've gone with my knee-jerk build. I think I put a good one together, but we'll see what everyone says...
Silent Edge's Tidbits of Wisdom: The Lewis Theory - When the presence of a single card makes every other card in your deck better (see Lewis, Ray). The Rubber Edict - You'd rather have it and not use it, than need it and not have it. The Shotgun Wedding - Don't commit early unless you absolutely have to.
This'll be so helpful. I'd like to get critique on how I build my decks. Having said that, I should've gone with my knee-jerk build. I think I put a good one together, but we'll see what everyone says...
Silent Edge's Tidbits of Wisdom: The Lewis Theory - When the presence of a single card makes every other card in your deck better (see Lewis, Ray). The Rubber Edict - You'd rather have it and not use it, than need it and not have it. The Shotgun Wedding - Don't commit early unless you absolutely have to.
Silent Edge's Tidbits of Wisdom: The Lewis Theory - When the presence of a single card makes every other card in your deck better (see Lewis, Ray). The Rubber Edict - You'd rather have it and not use it, than need it and not have it. The Shotgun Wedding - Don't commit early unless you absolutely have to.
This is very cool, it reminds of the invitationnal sealed pool that they had a while back, every player building decks with the same pool of cards... I just can't for the life of me remember the name of it !?
Primary and only casual rule: "any rule that is fine for the most part of the playgroup, is a fine rule". So any further thread with: "if somebody uses/does .... in a casual game, is it ethical/ok?", read the answer above.
- Being a "Johnny/Spike" means you like self-torture. You win often in casual, so everybody hates you; you loose often in competitive, so you hate yourself.
I have accidental genius. I get my best ideas without every really thinking about it. I read Cali's post, and immediately thought how cool it would be to basically get to deck-build off of each other's Cube lists -- seeing as how it's highly doubtful that all of us will ever populate the same table for a night of Cube Drafting.
Silent Edge's Tidbits of Wisdom: The Lewis Theory - When the presence of a single card makes every other card in your deck better (see Lewis, Ray). The Rubber Edict - You'd rather have it and not use it, than need it and not have it. The Shotgun Wedding - Don't commit early unless you absolutely have to.
Starting immediately, we should take volunteers for who wants to have their Cube open for Sealed Deck. I'll volunteer my Cube immediately, however I'll have to exclude myself from Week 2 (Aug 24th) as my Cube is in for a busy coming weekend.
Every Thursday when the Cube owner posts all the submitted decklists, there should also be an announcement for who will be responsible for the next week's Cube. If they don't reply by Friday, another person is chosen. That way that person has that weekend to essentially shuffle and sort their Cube to come up with the 6 booster packs.
What's the precedent? 6 booster packs? Sorted by color, then creature/spell?
I agree with the layout that Usman used in the OP.
We should have one person (in this case, I would think it'd be Usman) operating the Thread as a whole. Determining who's Cube goes up each week, etc. Maybe allow for different twists to make things interesting down the line.
Silent Edge's Tidbits of Wisdom: The Lewis Theory - When the presence of a single card makes every other card in your deck better (see Lewis, Ray). The Rubber Edict - You'd rather have it and not use it, than need it and not have it. The Shotgun Wedding - Don't commit early unless you absolutely have to.
I sticky this thread and rename it into "Official Cube Sealed Thread"
Then we have a new pool every monday, every time from a different cube.
The cube owner posts the pool on Monday and everyone has time until Wednesday to get their builds to the cube's owner who in turn takes the lists and posts them in this thread.
Thursday to Sunday are for discussion and to determine who's next.
Other ideas?
I very much like those ideas. I liked the forum draft but I think this is more practical because people complained about how the draft went and it was (I assume, at least) really hard to coordinate packs and signals. While I've never done cube sealed (might soon), I think that this could help to determine strategies and generally how it works out as a cubing format.
I think this thread will also address the "other third" of Cube Drafting, which is neither the Cube itself, nor the drafting -- but deck building from a powerful pool of cards, which happens everytime we all sit down to Cube.
It'll give us a chance to post what we think is the best deck from a certain pool of cards, and while there will never be a "perfect deck" (this is based totally on different playing styles and in the end, our good friend "preference" -- which is latin for "argument that will never be settled"), it will be very easy to see where someone is going with their deck design, and what they may have missed, how they could've built the deck better, what they should've avoided and on the flip side of all that -- what they saw that no one else did, what they did well, what cards they avoided wisely.
Silent Edge's Tidbits of Wisdom: The Lewis Theory - When the presence of a single card makes every other card in your deck better (see Lewis, Ray). The Rubber Edict - You'd rather have it and not use it, than need it and not have it. The Shotgun Wedding - Don't commit early unless you absolutely have to.
I think this thread will also address the "other third" of Cube Drafting, which is neither the Cube itself, nor the drafting -- but deck building from a powerful pool of cards, which happens everytime we all sit down to Cube.
It'll give us a chance to post what we think is the best deck from a certain pool of cards, and while there will never be a "perfect deck" (this is based totally on different playing styles and in the end, our good friend "preference" -- which is latin for "argument that will never be settled"), it will be very easy to see where someone is going with their deck design, and what they may have missed, how they could've built the deck better, what they should've avoided and on the flip side of all that -- what they saw that no one else did, what they did well, what cards they avoided wisely.
This was an excellent idea, Usman.
Thank you.
A friend who mostly plays limited (who doesn't cube that much) cited a reason that he doesn't like to cube as much as, say, regular drafting is because he said "It's like paring a deck down from 40, it's insane!"
I think this thread will also address the "other third" of Cube Drafting, which is neither the Cube itself, nor the drafting -- but deck building from a powerful pool of cards, which happens everytime we all sit down to Cube.
It'll give us a chance to post what we think is the best deck from a certain pool of cards, and while there will never be a "perfect deck" (this is based totally on different playing styles and in the end, our good friend "preference" -- which is latin for "argument that will never be settled"), it will be very easy to see where someone is going with their deck design, and what they may have missed, how they could've built the deck better, what they should've avoided and on the flip side of all that -- what they saw that no one else did, what they did well, what cards they avoided wisely.
This was an excellent idea, Usman.
I second this, really good stuff. I think it will be very helpful for all parties involved.
I'll also make a sealed from my primary cube if wanted.
I could also make one from my tribal cube, but i don't think it'll be as fun.
And a third option is to make one from my whacko-rare cube.
List or previous and upcoming pools and decks:
08/17/09: Usman (Pool | Decks)
08/24/09: RainbowBrite (Pool | Decks)
08/30/09: Pringlesman (Pool | Decks)
09/07/09: calibretto (Pool | Decks)
09/14/09: Phantizle ( Pool | Decks)
09/20/09: lim_qien (Pool | Decks)
09/28/09: Neonico (Pool | Decks)
10/05/09: BennyDJazz (Modern) (Pool | Decks)
10/20/09: bondafong (Tribal) (Pool | Decks)
10/26/09: wtwlf (Classic) (Pool | Decks)
11/02/09: magicmerl (Pool | Decks)
11/10/09: Bizarro Bike (Pool | Decks)
11/16/09: Humpty Dumpty (Pool | Decks)
11/23/09: Shalazar (Pool | Decks)
11/30/09: Nevermore of Shadows (Pool | Decks)
12/07/09: Fredo (Pool | Decks)
12/14/09: WhatGoodCounterspells??? (Pool | Decks)
12/21/09: ThatOneNinja (Pool | Decks)
12/28/09: magicmerl (Pool | Decks)
01/04/10: Phantizle (Pool | Decks)
01/11/10: calibretto (Pool | Decks)
01/18/10: Usman (Pool | Decks)
01/25/10: Fredo (Pool | Decks)
Coming up:
02/01/10: magicmerl (Pool | Decks)
02/08/10: WhatGoodCounterSpells??? (Pool | Decks)
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However, do not post your deck, information about your deck nor observations on the sealed pool, in a reply to this thread, instead send me a PM by this Thursday (August 20, 2009) at 1:00 PM Eastern Standard time (GMT -5) with the deck! I want to do it via PM so people don't use other decks and insights for information on how to create the deck.
1 Watery Grave
1 Gruul Turf
1 Mutavault
1 Savannah
1 Bayou
1 Ancient Tomb
1 Izzet Boilerworks
1 Bloodstained Mire
1 Steam Vents
1 Polluted Delta
1 Boros Garrison
1 Stomping Ground
1 Masticore
1 Chimeric Idol
1 Loxodon Warhammer
1 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Izzet Signet
1 Lightning Greaves
1 Memory Jar
1 Selesnya Signet
1 Dimir Signet
1 Mox Jet
1 Winter Orb
1 Solemn Simulacrum
1 Gruul Signet
1 Smokestack
1 Tidehollow Sculler
1 Prophetic Bolt
1 Mystic Snake
1 Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind
1 Mortify
1 Army Ants
1 Death Grasp
1 Blazing Specter
1 Balance
1 Glorious Anthem
1 Faith's Fetters
1 Ravages of War
1 Akroma's Vengeance
1 Decree of Justice
1 Knight of Meadowgrain
1 Spectral Procession
1 Calciderm
1 Cloudgoat Ranger
1 Eternal Dragon
1 Akroma, Angel of Wrath
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Crystal Shard
1 Dismiss
1 Gifts Ungiven
1 Stroke of Genius
1 Willbender
1 Vendilion Clique
1 Sower of Temptation
1 Draining Whelk
1 Imperial Seal
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Chainer's Edict
1 Doom Blade
1 Night's Whisper
1 Makeshift Mannequin
1 Liliana Vess
1 Bane of the Living
1 Shriekmaw
1 Ink-Eyes, Servant of Oni
1 Silent Specter
Red:
1 Magma Jet
1 Starstorm
1 Grim Lavamancer
1 Mogg Fanatic
1 Slith Firewalker
1 Blood Knight
1 Keldon Marauders
1 Kumano, Master Yamabushi
1 Siege-Gang Commander
1 Sylvan Library
1 Stonewood Invocation
1 Jungle Lion
1 Pouncing Jaguar
1 Mire Boa
1 Imperious Perfect
1 Wickerbough Elder
1 Ravenous Baloth
1 Genesis
1 Deranged Hermit
1 Krosan Tusker
Thank you!
I used to write cube articles on StarCityGames, now for GatheringMagic and podcast about cube (w/Antknee42.)
Thanks for setting this up Usman.
This'll be so helpful. I'd like to get critique on how I build my decks. Having said that, I should've gone with my knee-jerk build. I think I put a good one together, but we'll see what everyone says...
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My 2009 Cube Draft Article - "With The First Pick..."
2009 Official Cube Power Rankings
2010 Official Cube Power Rankings
2014 Official Cube Power Rankings
Silent Edge's Tidbits of Wisdom:
The Lewis Theory - When the presence of a single card makes every other card in your deck better (see Lewis, Ray).
The Rubber Edict - You'd rather have it and not use it, than need it and not have it.
The Shotgun Wedding - Don't commit early unless you absolutely have to.
Twitter: @archplus3
If you want, you can send me that decklist too.
I used to write cube articles on StarCityGames, now for GatheringMagic and podcast about cube (w/Antknee42.)
I used to write cube articles on StarCityGames, now for GatheringMagic and podcast about cube (w/Antknee42.)
It did seem like you wanted certain people to go towards a certain archetype then there was the "HEY! Look at me!" card that made you rethink it.
And there wasn't enough of a certain archetype to totally justify going that direction.
Very nice random pool.
NorCal Crew Collective Cube on Cube Tutor
My 2009 Cube Draft Article - "With The First Pick..."
2009 Official Cube Power Rankings
2010 Official Cube Power Rankings
2014 Official Cube Power Rankings
Silent Edge's Tidbits of Wisdom:
The Lewis Theory - When the presence of a single card makes every other card in your deck better (see Lewis, Ray).
The Rubber Edict - You'd rather have it and not use it, than need it and not have it.
The Shotgun Wedding - Don't commit early unless you absolutely have to.
Twitter: @archplus3
My Tribal cube
My 93/94 old school cube
My Artifact cube
My Hearthstone Quiz App for iOS
MTGS Average Peasant Cube 2023 Edition
Follow me. I tweet.
So this week could be Usman, and next week could be wtwlf123's Classic Cube, then Klug's Common/Uncommon Cube, etc.
I think that would be a fantastic exercise.
NorCal Crew Collective Cube on Cube Tutor
My 2009 Cube Draft Article - "With The First Pick..."
2009 Official Cube Power Rankings
2010 Official Cube Power Rankings
2014 Official Cube Power Rankings
Silent Edge's Tidbits of Wisdom:
The Lewis Theory - When the presence of a single card makes every other card in your deck better (see Lewis, Ray).
The Rubber Edict - You'd rather have it and not use it, than need it and not have it.
The Shotgun Wedding - Don't commit early unless you absolutely have to.
Twitter: @archplus3
This is very cool, it reminds of the invitationnal sealed pool that they had a while back, every player building decks with the same pool of cards... I just can't for the life of me remember the name of it !?
i think that is a great idea, also!
woot
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My secondary "cube".
Really out of date cube thread with pictures.
I have accidental genius. I get my best ideas without every really thinking about it. I read Cali's post, and immediately thought how cool it would be to basically get to deck-build off of each other's Cube lists -- seeing as how it's highly doubtful that all of us will ever populate the same table for a night of Cube Drafting.
NorCal Crew Collective Cube on Cube Tutor
My 2009 Cube Draft Article - "With The First Pick..."
2009 Official Cube Power Rankings
2010 Official Cube Power Rankings
2014 Official Cube Power Rankings
Silent Edge's Tidbits of Wisdom:
The Lewis Theory - When the presence of a single card makes every other card in your deck better (see Lewis, Ray).
The Rubber Edict - You'd rather have it and not use it, than need it and not have it.
The Shotgun Wedding - Don't commit early unless you absolutely have to.
Twitter: @archplus3
Every Thursday when the Cube owner posts all the submitted decklists, there should also be an announcement for who will be responsible for the next week's Cube. If they don't reply by Friday, another person is chosen. That way that person has that weekend to essentially shuffle and sort their Cube to come up with the 6 booster packs.
What's the precedent? 6 booster packs? Sorted by color, then creature/spell?
I agree with the layout that Usman used in the OP.
We should have one person (in this case, I would think it'd be Usman) operating the Thread as a whole. Determining who's Cube goes up each week, etc. Maybe allow for different twists to make things interesting down the line.
NorCal Crew Collective Cube on Cube Tutor
My 2009 Cube Draft Article - "With The First Pick..."
2009 Official Cube Power Rankings
2010 Official Cube Power Rankings
2014 Official Cube Power Rankings
Silent Edge's Tidbits of Wisdom:
The Lewis Theory - When the presence of a single card makes every other card in your deck better (see Lewis, Ray).
The Rubber Edict - You'd rather have it and not use it, than need it and not have it.
The Shotgun Wedding - Don't commit early unless you absolutely have to.
Twitter: @archplus3
Current EDH Decks:
G Multani, Maro-Sorcerer
B Xiahou Dun, the One-Eyed
GU Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
I very much like those ideas. I liked the forum draft but I think this is more practical because people complained about how the draft went and it was (I assume, at least) really hard to coordinate packs and signals. While I've never done cube sealed (might soon), I think that this could help to determine strategies and generally how it works out as a cubing format.
I used to write cube articles on StarCityGames, now for GatheringMagic and podcast about cube (w/Antknee42.)
It'll give us a chance to post what we think is the best deck from a certain pool of cards, and while there will never be a "perfect deck" (this is based totally on different playing styles and in the end, our good friend "preference" -- which is latin for "argument that will never be settled"), it will be very easy to see where someone is going with their deck design, and what they may have missed, how they could've built the deck better, what they should've avoided and on the flip side of all that -- what they saw that no one else did, what they did well, what cards they avoided wisely.
This was an excellent idea, Usman.
NorCal Crew Collective Cube on Cube Tutor
My 2009 Cube Draft Article - "With The First Pick..."
2009 Official Cube Power Rankings
2010 Official Cube Power Rankings
2014 Official Cube Power Rankings
Silent Edge's Tidbits of Wisdom:
The Lewis Theory - When the presence of a single card makes every other card in your deck better (see Lewis, Ray).
The Rubber Edict - You'd rather have it and not use it, than need it and not have it.
The Shotgun Wedding - Don't commit early unless you absolutely have to.
Twitter: @archplus3
Thank you.
A friend who mostly plays limited (who doesn't cube that much) cited a reason that he doesn't like to cube as much as, say, regular drafting is because he said "It's like paring a deck down from 40, it's insane!"
6 pools so far have been sent, w00t.
I used to write cube articles on StarCityGames, now for GatheringMagic and podcast about cube (w/Antknee42.)
I second this, really good stuff. I think it will be very helpful for all parties involved.
Current EDH Decks:
G Multani, Maro-Sorcerer
B Xiahou Dun, the One-Eyed
GU Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
I could also make one from my tribal cube, but i don't think it'll be as fun.
And a third option is to make one from my whacko-rare cube.
My Tribal cube
My 93/94 old school cube
My Artifact cube
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(Also, I'll run one of these at some point if needed)
I'll send ya a list Usman tommorow, I have to be at work in 5 and a half hours. I should sleep.
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