I was a fan of Ledian but I can see how the switch to the Yanmega line is better for your Cube overall.
Was Scyther > Scizor ever considered? Or does the abundance of Steel type Scizor cards keep that pool too shallow?
EDIT: I actually looked and realized that all but 2 Scizor are Metal... So much for that idea!
I also liked Leidan but when it comes down to the stats Yanmega is just better.
We heavily considered Scizor, but with them being Steel it felt more like Steel Pokemon than a Grass Pokemon. We initially felt that the Cube could have a multicolor section like a Magic Cube, but quickly found out it didn't work too well. Pokemon can be difficult for a splash, since the Energy attach to monsters instead of always being available resources like lands.
I had honestly thought there were a lot more Grass-type Scizors printed but I was very mistaken. Too bad, because Scizor/Cherrim was the last time I played competitive Pokemon and I had a lot of fun with that deck.
I enjoyed the Ninetales post as it explained a lot about the line that I had been questioning. Was the HG/SS Ninetails (With Roast Reveal) excluded because it doesn't play so well outside of Fire-type decks?
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I had honestly thought there were a lot more Grass-type Scizors printed but I was very mistaken. Too bad, because Scizor/Cherrim was the last time I played competitive Pokemon and I had a lot of fun with that deck.
I enjoyed the Ninetales post as it explained a lot about the line that I had been questioning. Was the HG/SS Ninetails (With Roast Reveal) excluded because it doesn't play so well outside of Fire-type decks?
We did look into the HG/SS Ninetales. Roast Reveal is a powerful Poke-power, turning excess energy into more cards. Ninetales only attack just does 60 damage for 2 Fire and and Colorless Energy, which isn't great. It got beat out by the Mysterious Treasures Ninetales (the last one I discussed). I could see an argument for switching the Mysterious Treasures Ninetales for the HG/SS, since they are similar. In the end we went with a slightly quicker attack with a unique Poke-power over a slower attack with a small card drawing element.
Aqua Stream is easily my favorite, though that's just from fond memories of constructed.
I can definitely see it. Kindgra is very close in power level and can depend on the style of deck it is played in. Aqua Stream is indeed very powerful. With the power level being so close, it makes the Kingdra line one of the best in the Cube.
I love this! I just built my MtG cube and now I'm hooked on it, so I'm seriously considering doing this if I can find people to do it.
One question: do you find that the face-up method lends itself to more hate drafting? Especially stage 1 evolutions that are part of stage 2 trees seem like they could be vulnerable.
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I love this! I just built my MtG cube and now I'm hooked on it, so I'm seriously considering doing this if I can find people to do it.
One question: do you find that the face-up method lends itself to more hate drafting? Especially stage 1 evolutions that are part of stage 2 trees seem like they could be vulnerable.
It works better than a face down pack draft style because everyone is aware what lines people are in. While there is the potential for hate drafting, it is a double edge sword. If you are taking a person's stage 1s, you taking a card you can't play at all. If this happens once or twice in a draft it isn't a big deal, but if you do it too often, you will end up with a worse deck since you are wasting your picks to hate draft. Also, since it is face up everyone is very aware of your hate drafting and will usually hate draft your stuff back. This has happened in a few drafts and when it did the person aggressively hate drafting ended up with a mediocre deck. They were too busy messing with someone's picks instead of focusing on their own deck and then others were hating picks from them out of spite. Overall I have been happy with the draft format. It does taken some time to draft this way, but it has been the most effective.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed to see a review on Metagross sometime in the near future
Other than that, I really liked the sample decklists you gave. They're good insight as to how your Cube actually drafts in practice.
Thanks! After a draft last week a few of the decks were still together so I quickly typed them up as examples. I was hoping to showcase different styles/build that people construct out of the Cube. Both of those decks were from the same draft and not drafted by me. Glad you enjoyed them. I will try to post more in the future.
About how much money did the cards set you back? I don't know much about Pokemon prices (though I know findmagiccards.com has a section for them) and I haven't collected since 152-251 were very first printed, so I don't think I have very many of the cards.
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About how much money did the cards set you back? I don't know much about Pokemon prices (though I know findmagiccards.com has a section for them) and I haven't collected since 152-251 were very first printed, so I don't think I have very many of the cards.
Literally everything not in the constructed format for the game is worthless. So staples for the current modified format might set you back quite a bit, but you could probably even build without any of the Pokemon but just use the Trainers.
About how much money did the cards set you back? I don't know much about Pokemon prices (though I know findmagiccards.com has a section for them) and I haven't collected since 152-251 were very first printed, so I don't think I have very many of the cards.
It is a Cube, so there is some financial investment required up front. I sadly don't have an exact number of how much it costs, since the Cube has changed over time and was supplemented in the the beginning from two collections. Also, some of the cards has changed in price since it was built. (For example, Darkness Energy used to about a $1 a piece and now are maybe .25 a piece).
Like bone_doc stated, most of the non-tournament cards are fairly cheap, with rares usually running at a $1 or less. Some of the older cards might be harder to find and sometimes fetch a slightly higher price on the secondary market because of limited supply. Overall it is still way cheaper than a Magic Cube, but you will have to invest some money. I would suggest checking out some of the online retails stores and price some of the cards.
Even the constructed cards don't have to be that expensive, however, because Pokemon still prints World Championship decks. As long as you don't care about legiality/the different card back, cards like Kingdra and such can be found cheaply as well.
Even the constructed cards don't have to be that expensive, however, because Pokemon still prints World Championship decks. As long as you don't care about legiality/the different card back, cards like Kingdra and such can be found cheaply as well.
Does anyone have any suggestions for the site? Any content they would be interesting in seeing? Anything about the Cube you are curious about and would like to see an article addressing?
I agree on video content. I also think it'd be nice if you had a little honorable mentions section, for Pokemon you think might fit the bill but are either untested or came up a little short. People like playing with their favorite Pokemon, so having some alternatives would help people with semi-disinterested friends into the idea of drafting this instead of Magic. You hit the nail on the head with Houndoom for me, though
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Thanks for the suggestions! I have been wanting to do some video content for awhile now, but some of the logistics have hindered it. Hopefully sometime in the future videos can be added.
I also like the idea of honorable mentions, because Pokemon is a game where people have favorites. We haven't tried ever line, but it could even be a place to show case lines that were removed at some point or we almost added just in case people are interested in variations.
I also liked Leidan but when it comes down to the stats Yanmega is just better.
We heavily considered Scizor, but with them being Steel it felt more like Steel Pokemon than a Grass Pokemon. We initially felt that the Cube could have a multicolor section like a Magic Cube, but quickly found out it didn't work too well. Pokemon can be difficult for a splash, since the Energy attach to monsters instead of always being available resources like lands.
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I enjoyed the Ninetales post as it explained a lot about the line that I had been questioning. Was the HG/SS Ninetails (With Roast Reveal) excluded because it doesn't play so well outside of Fire-type decks?
EDH Decks:
- Reya Dawnbringer // - Mistform Ultimus // - Balthor the Defiled // - Urabrask the Hidden // - Mirri, Cat Warrior
We did look into the HG/SS Ninetales. Roast Reveal is a powerful Poke-power, turning excess energy into more cards. Ninetales only attack just does 60 damage for 2 Fire and and Colorless Energy, which isn't great. It got beat out by the Mysterious Treasures Ninetales (the last one I discussed). I could see an argument for switching the Mysterious Treasures Ninetales for the HG/SS, since they are similar. In the end we went with a slightly quicker attack with a unique Poke-power over a slower attack with a small card drawing element.
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EDH Decks:
- Reya Dawnbringer // - Mistform Ultimus // - Balthor the Defiled // - Urabrask the Hidden // - Mirri, Cat Warrior
Aqua Stream is easily my favorite, though that's just from fond memories of constructed.
EDH Decks:
- Reya Dawnbringer // - Mistform Ultimus // - Balthor the Defiled // - Urabrask the Hidden // - Mirri, Cat Warrior
Pun intended?
Charming coincidence =P
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I can definitely see it. Kindgra is very close in power level and can depend on the style of deck it is played in. Aqua Stream is indeed very powerful. With the power level being so close, it makes the Kingdra line one of the best in the Cube.
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One question: do you find that the face-up method lends itself to more hate drafting? Especially stage 1 evolutions that are part of stage 2 trees seem like they could be vulnerable.
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It works better than a face down pack draft style because everyone is aware what lines people are in. While there is the potential for hate drafting, it is a double edge sword. If you are taking a person's stage 1s, you taking a card you can't play at all. If this happens once or twice in a draft it isn't a big deal, but if you do it too often, you will end up with a worse deck since you are wasting your picks to hate draft. Also, since it is face up everyone is very aware of your hate drafting and will usually hate draft your stuff back. This has happened in a few drafts and when it did the person aggressively hate drafting ended up with a mediocre deck. They were too busy messing with someone's picks instead of focusing on their own deck and then others were hating picks from them out of spite. Overall I have been happy with the draft format. It does taken some time to draft this way, but it has been the most effective.
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Other than that, I really liked the sample decklists you gave. They're good insight as to how your Cube actually drafts in practice.
EDH Decks:
- Reya Dawnbringer // - Mistform Ultimus // - Balthor the Defiled // - Urabrask the Hidden // - Mirri, Cat Warrior
Thanks! After a draft last week a few of the decks were still together so I quickly typed them up as examples. I was hoping to showcase different styles/build that people construct out of the Cube. Both of those decks were from the same draft and not drafted by me. Glad you enjoyed them. I will try to post more in the future.
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Literally everything not in the constructed format for the game is worthless. So staples for the current modified format might set you back quite a bit, but you could probably even build without any of the Pokemon but just use the Trainers.
It is a Cube, so there is some financial investment required up front. I sadly don't have an exact number of how much it costs, since the Cube has changed over time and was supplemented in the the beginning from two collections. Also, some of the cards has changed in price since it was built. (For example, Darkness Energy used to about a $1 a piece and now are maybe .25 a piece).
Like bone_doc stated, most of the non-tournament cards are fairly cheap, with rares usually running at a $1 or less. Some of the older cards might be harder to find and sometimes fetch a slightly higher price on the secondary market because of limited supply. Overall it is still way cheaper than a Magic Cube, but you will have to invest some money. I would suggest checking out some of the online retails stores and price some of the cards.
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Those are also a cheap alternative.
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It'd also help to visualize how your draft process flows, since it's a bit different than normal.
EDH Decks:
- Reya Dawnbringer // - Mistform Ultimus // - Balthor the Defiled // - Urabrask the Hidden // - Mirri, Cat Warrior
I concur. Video content always makes everything better
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I also like the idea of honorable mentions, because Pokemon is a game where people have favorites. We haven't tried ever line, but it could even be a place to show case lines that were removed at some point or we almost added just in case people are interested in variations.
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