Quote from Travy_the_RenewerFinally a new post up! This post explores the Metal line Metagross in the Cube, which I know at least one person was interested in. Let me know your thoughts about it.
Quote from Travy_the_RenewerGlad you enjoyed it. I am trying to incorporate other Cube cards you might want to draft along side some of the lines. This gives so direction towards drafting and better explains some of the lines.
I am really excited for the new set that is coming out in two weeks, since it two Blend Energies, which add count as four different types of Energy.
Quote from Wildfire393Interesting. So there's like, "Blend Energy 1: Counts as your choice of Fire, Fighting, Electric, or Dark energy" and "Blend Energy 2: Counts as your choice of Water, Steel, Psychic, or Grass energy"?
Quote from Travy_the_RenewerExactly
Quote from MagnetManHey! It's dual (Quad?) lands for Pokemon!
Quote from Travy_the_RenewerIt's super exciting. I am hoping Energies like this help some type pairings. Overall this next set has some interesting cards, but right now these Energy are what I most excited for since fixing is always good.
Quote from bone_docAre you gonna end up playing any of the dragon dudes?
Quote from Travy_the_RenewerRaichu is now up. We also did a cube draft a few days ago, so I will try to get some sample decklists up.
Quote from MagnetManI was hoping to see your avatar somewhere in that post.
Quote from Travy_the_Renewer It actually comes from a comic series: http://mareodomo.com/index.php?/comics/letters-to-an-absent-father/
Quote from MrDumpkinsThat is the most sad pokemon webcomic ever. At the end all he can do is climb a mountain and stay there
Quote from Travy_the_RenewerThey are very melancholy, but for some reason I really enjoy them.
Quote from MagnetManI spent awhile looking through your blog and I gotta say you've done a great job putting this thing together.
The only thing I wish you had up were some pictures to make it easier to see the different versions you're running of each Pokemon.
How much would you say it cost you to put that together?
Quote from ZovcWhat is the best way for us to put this cube together if we don't have a Pokemon collection?
Quote from muddybuddyI'm curious if there would be a way to make the cube so you can add more different pokemon without making hatedrafting a problem (i.e. have more electric pokemon evolutions than just Pikachu and Mareep). Since Travy's blog uses a 16 card Rochester Draft, why not just make a rule that if you draft a card that needs a prerequisite to play, you may take one of each necessary prerequisite when they pop up as your card for that round prior to anyone else's pick.
Quote from muddybuddyI'm curious if there would be a way to make the cube so you can add more different pokemon without making hatedrafting a problem (i.e. have more electric pokemon evolutions than just Pikachu and Mareep).
Quote from vigilanteThe most significant modification I made to Travy's list was to cut all Metal and Darkness type Pokemon. I know that's a big deal, and that it plays havoc with the weakness/resistance balance within the cube, but it just didn't seem right to throw a bunch of (nonbasic) Metal and Darkness energies in a box along with the normal basic energies, but then have the rules baggage of limiting the number of Metal/Darkness energies to 4 per deck.
Quote from vigilanteI've had my eye on this thread from the beginning and am now in the final stages of fine-tuning my Pokemon cube, which is strongly based on Travy's list. Troll & Toad has been a godsend in the construction process - they've had virtually every card I've needed in stock, and their Pokemon singles prices have been very reasonable.
The most significant modification I made to Travy's list was to cut all Metal and Darkness type Pokemon. I know that's a big deal, and that it plays havoc with the weakness/resistance balance within the cube, but it just didn't seem right to throw a bunch of (nonbasic) Metal and Darkness energies in a box along with the normal basic energies, but then have the rules baggage of limiting the number of Metal/Darkness energies to 4 per deck.
With lots of additional space opened up by cutting Metal and Darkness types, I am doing exactly what you propose here - running extra evolution lines within each colour.
Currently my list includes:
Fire: Torchic/Combusken/Blaziken; Vulpix/Ninetales; Growlithe/Arcanine
Fighting: Machop/Machoke/Machamp; Riolu/Lucario; Makuhita/Hariyama
Lightning: Mareep/Flaaffy/Ampharos; Pikachu/Raichu; Electrike/Manectric
Grass: Chikorita/Bayleef/Meganium; Yanma/Yanmega; Tangela/Tangrowth
Water: Horsea/Seadra/Kingdra; Magikarp/Gyarados; Remoraid/Octillery
Psychic: Ralts/Kirlia/Gardevoir; Misdreavus/Mismagius; Spoink/Grumpig
(with an 8/6/4 breakdown for the Level 2 evolution line, and 6/4 for the other two lines.)
I also have an Eevee evolution package, colourless section, and "Big Basics" section, all of which are very similar to Travy's list.
I'm still considering replacing some of the evolution lines in my list:
Growlithe/Arcanine may become Magmar/Magmortar (thanks to some powerful Magmortars in recent sets);Makuhita/Hariyama is probably becoming Gligar/Gliscor (the former hit harder, but the later seem much more interesting/interactive with their strong emphasis on status effects);Chikorita/Bayleef/Meganium will almost certainly become Treecko/Grovyle/Sceptile (particularly to address the weaknesses of Bayleef that Travy mentioned in his blog);Spoink/Grumpig need to be replaced by....something (these guys looked alright to me initially mainly because of their combination of status effects and Grumpig's reasonable damage output, but in hindsight they're not that great.) At this stage I think Drifloon/Drifblim might be worth a try....they have a weird mixture of attacks, but I particularly like Drifblim's free (or very low) retreat costs.
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Travy, question for you -- what are your thoughts on Ralts/Kirlia/Gardevoir over Gastly/Haunter/Gengar as the main evolution line for Psychic? Is this a line you considered for your list? If so, what prompted you to go with Gengar? (For reference, I'm using Gardevoir from Emerald, Secret Wonders, Platinum, and Next Destinies.)
Quote from Travy_the_RenewerAs for Metal and Dark, a few years ago they stopped being Special Energy and are now just regular Energies. This is the only reason why we included them in the Cube because they now have basic types.
As for Gardevior line, we did consider that line for the Cube. It is a good line, but we decided to go with Gengar because it provided a different style of play. Gradevior should be a fine line too play too. We have also considered play Drifblim, so that seems also like a fine line to include.
The one down side by adding more evolution lines means you will have either more cards to draft (and a bigger cube) or less Trainers. Trainers tend to be the oil that helps the deck runs, so I would suggest not cutting down on those.
Once you are able to do some drafts let me know how it goes for you. I am very interested in how it plays for others since I have had such a great time working on the Pokecube.