MTG Salvation

This is basicly just a thread for various ideas of cards that you would want wizards to print, so you can add the card to your cube. What cards do you think's needed to improve cubing? What way do you want wizards to bring the game? More good red low cc creatures, more MBC cards, or something else.

Any idea's posted in this thread is owned by the cube forum, and can be used by anyone anyway they want.

The first card is just a little more expensive sol ring which is still good. The 2nd looks like Mind Stone

I've yet to see someone put custom cards in their cube but I think it should be done. I have a hard time because a lot of my friends won't be happy. Just make some red cards wizard, my red (and a lot of other people's) aren't that good.

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This is basicly just a thread for various ideas of cards that you would want wizards to print, so you can add the card to your cube. What cards do you think's needed to improve cubing? What way do you want wizards to bring the game? More good red low cc creatures, more MBC cards, or something else.

I'll start with this, that are alternative versions of mana-artifacts.

Moon Ring 2
Artifact
Tap Moon Ring to add 2 to your mana pool.

Brain Stone 2
Artifact
Tap Moon Ring to add 1 to your mana pool.
Cycling 2

The first card is super overpowered and the second card is pretty close to Mind Stone.


If I had a choice of what to see printed there are a few things.
#1 More good one mana creatures
#2 More good LD
#3 More good, cheap discard
#4 Another good 2cmc counter spell
#5 More cheap white spells that exile creatures

I want them to print stuff I haven't thought of.

Harm's Way is a good example. Like all the best ideas it seems obvious afterwards, but it has enough applications to be interesting, despite being mechanically very straightforward.

I want more high power to casting cost ratio creatures to make aggro even better.

i want WotC to take a second and think about making awesome rare-worthy lands into uncommons. the Shards tri-lands were a step in the right direction.

I can really stand in for good cheap discard-spells. We need more of that for cube.

Touch of Insanity BB
Sorcery
Target opponent discard one card at random from his hand.
Draw a card.

It could cost UB alternatively, but that would make it alot worse.

We need more cheap good red creatures as well.

Goblin Barbarian RR
Creature - Goblin Barbarian
Haste, Firebreathing
2/2

Obviously creatures have it pretty good right now. Still, I'd like to see mono-green get some more really efficient standouts. It feels like a while since we've had a Blastoderm or Phantom Centaur.

There are always cards that I think would be worthy if they were a bit different. Like if they had a lower casting cost, or it were a nicer power/toughness or if it had flying or just things like that. I don't do a lot of card creation in my head, other than altering existing cards to make them better. Like this morning I was thinking about Wayfarer's Bauble and it if looked more like this I'd probably like it a lot more.

Land Bauble 1
Artifact
Land Bauble ETB tapped.
T, Sac: Search your library for a basic land and put it onto the battlefield tapped.

Giving it a little further thought - I also wish there were better artifact creatures at uncommon. I realize that this is probably pretty tough because you don't want to print something that every deck in standard runs.

Something like this would be awesome:

3 ~name~
Sacrifice ~name~: Draw a card.
2/2

I think the removal of stacked damage and power creep make this card potentially balanced, but also pretty awesome.

I want a blue wall of blossoms. Or something like this:

Thought Field
U
Creature - Illusion
0/3
Defender
When Thought Field enters the battlefield, you may draw a card.

And another black 2CC reanimation spell would be nice.

..........

The Moon Ring would be cool... but if it was worded like this, it may be printable:

Moon Ring
X
Moon Ring enters the battlefield tapped.
Sunburst (This enters the battlefield with a charge counter on it for each color of mana spent to cast it.)
If Moon Ring has at least 2 charge counters on it, it gains: :symtap:, Add 2 to your mana pool.

That way, it's like a better Worn Powerstone for 2+ color decks.

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#2 More good LD
#3 More good, cheap discard
#4 Another good 2cmc counter spell

amen brother.

One for each color:

Golden Pegasus 1WW
Creature - Pegasus
Flying, protection from black or red
2/2

Some Useful Blue One Drop U
Creature - Human Wizard
Spells cost 1 more to play.
1/1

Erode 4BB
Sorcery
Destroy two target lands.

Aggro Critter R
Creature - Human Warrior
At the beginning of your fourth turn, you lose the game.
2/3

Elvish Naturalizer 1G
Creature - Elf Warrior Shaman
When ~ ETB destory target artifact.
2/1

~name~
Sacrifice ~name~: Draw a card.
2/2

That doesn't seem too powerful to me even with combat damage on the stack. Every color gets a 2C 2/2 creature with an ETB ability that destroys something or gets CA these days. It would see wide play but I wouldn't fear it being too good.

White Tinker!

Essence Meld
2W
Sorcery
As an additional cost to cast Essence Weld, sacrifice an enchantment.
Search your library for an enchantment card and put that card onto the battlefield. Then shuffle your library.

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Moon Ring
X
Moon Ring enters the battlefield tapped.
Sunburst (This enters the battlefield with a charge counter on it for each color of mana spent to cast it.)
If Moon Ring has at least 2 charge counters on it, it gains: :symtap:, Add 2 to your mana pool.

Yeah, that seems ok powerwise.

I also love the White Tinker. Especially with more and more good cheap white enchantments beeing printed.

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Golden Pegasus 1WW
Creature - Pegasus
Flying, protection from black or red
2/2

A good seondary version to Paladin-en Vec.

Some Useful Blue One Drop U
Creature - Human Wizard
Spells cost 1 more to play.
1/1

Seems to powerful for constructed to be printed unfortunatly.

Erode 4BB
Sorcery
Destroy two target lands.

Would this card be good enough for cube? 6 mana seems alot, and with plow under at 5, I think this could cost 5 as well.

Aggro Critter R
Creature - Human Warrior
At the beginning of your fourth turn, you lose the game.
2/3

Don't think this would be printed, because it for many would lead to unfun gamesituations. It poses an interesting problem though. Would you play it early or save it to turn 4?

Elvish Naturalizer 1G
Creature - Elf Warrior Shaman
When ~ ETB destory target artifact.
2/1

Yeah, I think this could be a natural replacement for Viridian Shaman.


What about an universal aggrocreature, that would fit all aggro-decks?

Aggro Myr 1
Artifact Creature - Myr
Whenever Aggro Myr is dealt damage, it deals damage that much damage to you.
2/1

What about an universal aggrocreature, that would fit all aggro-decks?

Aggro Myr
Artifact Creature - Myr
Whenever Aggro Myr is dealt damage, it deals damage that much damage to you.
2/1

That would be too good I think. It would have to deal twice X damage to you for them to print something like that. However, I would really love a colorless aggro creature that could go in anything.

Something Like:

Rampaging Mannequin
2
Artifact Creature - Construct
3/1
If Rampaging Mannequin is the target of a spell or ability, sacrifice it.

Erode = black Rain of Salt.

Cards that I'd want to be created (agreed very much on the U cantrip wall of wood, 1G viridian shaman, 3/1 mannequin and the 2/2 haste firebreathing)

Angry Elemental
Creature - Elemental
4R
Haste
When Angry Elemental ETB, destroy target land.
Evoke 2R
2/2

Soldier Lord
Creature - Soldier
2W
All other soldiers (all creatures?) you control get +1/+1.
4W: Put a 1/1 white soldier token into play under your control.
2/2

Song of Frenzy
2RR
Enchantment
Creatures you control get +2/+0 and haste.

Goblins' Rise
RR
Enchantment
Creatures you control get +1/+0.
When Goblins' Rise ETB, put a 1/1 red Goblin token into play.
At the beginning of your upkeep, if there are no Goblins under your control, Goblins' Rise deals 1 damage to you.

Rotten Corpse
Creature - Zombie
2B
Sacrifice Rotten Corpse: Destroy target nonblack creature.
Unearth 4BB
2/2

Wand of the Bayou
3
T, Sacrifice a Swamp: Put a 2/1 Black Zombie token with Intimidate into play.
T, Sacrifice a Forest: Put a 2/2 Green Cat token with haste into play or a 3/1 green Cat token with trample into play.

Elven Mold Farmer
Creature - Elf
1G
Kicker G and/or GG
If the G kicker cost was paid, destroy target enchantment or artifact.
If the GG kicker cost was paid, destroy target land.
2/2

Dunno about the balance, but it's not like these are getting printed anyway.

I'm in love with the Unearth and Kicker dudes.

Angry Elemental
Creature - Elemental
:4mana::symr:
Haste
When Angry Elemental ETB, destroy target land.
Evoke :2mana::symr:
2/2

That would be broken in cube :).

Erode = black Rain of Salt.

I didn't know that card existed. Did anyone ever try Rain of Salt in cube? Probably not as strong as I thought.

Seems to powerful for constructed to be printed unfortunatly.

Ya, probably. Inventing cubeable one drops for blue that aren't too good is not easy.

A few more:

Consult 2U
Instant
Draw two cards.

Spreading Wastes
T: Add 1 to your mana pool
T, Sacrifice ~: Target player sacrifices a nonbasic land.

Treefingers G
Enchantment - Aura
Enchanted creature is a forest.

Greenbark Dryad 3G
Creature - Dryad
When ~ ETB put target land on the top of its owner's library.
2/2

Evocative Pulse 2R
Instant
~ deals 2 damage to target creature or player.
Draw a card.

Urbanize W
Sorcery
Search your library for a nonbasic land card, reveal it and put it into your hand. Then shuffle your library.

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Consult 2U
Instant
Draw two cards.

Simple design, great card that are balanced correctly according to manacost. This could see print when Wizards decide to give blue control a chance again.

Spreading Wastes
T: Add 1 to your mana pool
T, Sacrifice ~: Target player sacrifices a nonbasic land.

An alternate version of Wasteland - I like it. But I think it unfortunatly would be too powerful in legacy to see print. But maybe I'm wrong.

Treefingers G
Enchantment - Aura
Enchanted creature is a forest.

Does this mean the creature loses all abilities as well? I think it should, and I like this card as well.

Evocative Pulse 2R
Instant
~ deals 2 damage to target creature or player.
Draw a card.

Interesting, but could be pushed to 3 damage without problems imo.

Angry Elemental
Creature - Elemental
:4mana::symr:
Haste
When Angry Elemental ETB, destroy target land.
Evoke :2mana::symr:
2/2

and

Rotten Corpse
Creature - Zombie
:2mana::symb:
Sacrifice Rotten Corpse: Destroy target nonblack creature.
Unearth :4mana::symb::symb:
2/2

These two are awesome. If the LD guy had evoke of 1RR, it may be more likely to be made. The corpse would have to be a 2/1 to see print, I think... but either way these two cards are sweet.

I'd love one of these:

Prophetic Calamity
Sorcery
2UWW
Destroy all creatures. They can't be regenerated. Look at the top four cards of your library. Put one of those cards into your hand and the rest on the bottom of your library in any order.

Well I think we can all agree that if cube builders designed magic the powercreep would be out of control

Special honors goto wtwlf123 for the blue cantrip wall for 1 mana (!?) and Impulse+Wrath for five...

The blue wall is probably too good, but I'd love to see it still. What I really want is a blue Wall of Blossoms. I'd be fine with that.

The Wrath I could envision being printed though. It's the same cost/benefit mindset they used when making Prophetic Bolt. Shave off 1 from the total cost of the combined cards (that one was Lightning Blast + Impulse at the time) in exchange for it being a 2-color card. It keeps the more restrictive sorcery-speed of the two cards. It would be really good, but it's still inside design parameters.

The Wrath I could envision being printed though. It's the same cost/benefit mindset they used when making Prophetic Bolt. Shave off from the total cost of the combined cards (that one was Lightning Blast + Impulse at the time) in exchange for it being a 2-color card. It keeps the more restrictive sorcery-speed of the two cards. It would be really good, but it's still inside design parameters.

That was possible only because Lightning Blast is so underpowered and overcosted, which is not the case with Wrath of God. If you compare Prophetic Bolt to the modern burn staple, you pay 3U for an Impulse and one more damage. Wrath OTOH was too powerful, to the point they have replaced it by a strictly weaker card now.

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That was possible only because Lightning Blast is so underpowered and overcosted, which is not the case with Wrath of God. If you compare Prophetic Bolt to the modern burn staple, you pay 3U for an Impulse and one more damage. Wrath OTOH was too powerful, to the point they have replaced it by a strictly weaker card now.

Fine. Looks like they'll have to remove the "prevents regeneration" part.