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I thought most fo the ending was good. At first I thought I didn't understand the explanation of the flash sideways. If it was what I thought it was, it was really lame. It turned out it was what I thought it was. In reality you could have cut the entire flash sideways arch from the story and it would have changed nothing about what went on with the island.
It also left a few things unanswered
Why was Walt important?
What the hell was with that Disease in Syaid? It seems like they didn't want to answer it so they went all Arnst on Syaid.
Why did the Darhma inititive code the computer in the hatch with the numbers of the Losties?
Why could Hurley talk to the dead? Is it because JAcob toched Hurley? If that's the case why could Miles see the dead?
What the hell is up with all the egyptian stuff?
And many many more. I'm sure if I was to rewatch the show and take notes. By the end I would have a large list of unanswered quiestions. But to be fair I would probably pick up on quite a few things I missed the first time around.
Not to say I didn't enjoy the show.
I think this show wasn't planned enough from the get go. Like did you know during the first episode they didn't know that Loche was crippled? It is obvious they didn't know how much show they were going to be making so they kept on creating content in the form of questions. Many of these questions they probably didn't have a clear plan on what the payoff was going to be. They just planned at a later time to explain them. Time went on and many of these questions didn't seem relevant anymore, or they weren't in the frotn of the fan's minds so they left them unanswered.
So by the time we get to the end of the show you just feel more confused about what went on then when you started.
Where did you read that they didn't know Locke was paralyzed? I always thought that Terry O'Quinn didn't know but I'm assuming the writers did.
I think Walt was a potential candidate or something. I noticed how he knew how to throw Locke's knives with little to no training in a similar way that the MiB knew how to play that board game when he found it on the beach.
I think Miles hear dead people's last thoughts because of his time on the island as a baby.
I think Jacob explained it best when he said the whole thing is just chalk on a wall and a lot of it doesn't really mean anything.
Where did you read that they didn't know Locke was paralyzed? I always thought that Terry O'Quinn didn't know but I'm assuming the writers did.
I think Walt was a potential candidate or something. I noticed how he knew how to throw Locke's knives with little to no training in a similar way that the MiB knew how to play that board game when he found it on the beach.
I think Miles hear dead people's last thoughts because of his time on the island as a baby.
I think Jacob explained it best when he said the whole thing is just chalk on a wall and a lot of it doesn't really mean anything.
It was in an issue of Entertainment Weekly IIRC. I think it was an interview with the writers, but it's possible that it was Terry O'Quinn they were interviewing. I will have to dig that issue up.
Agree with Calibretto. Watchman is fantastic. I like the movie a lot, too, although I'm not a fan of that director (he also did the 300, which I didn't like). It was pretty faithful to the graphic novel with a somewhat more logical ending. I did think Ozymandias was completely miscast but the rest of the cast were awesome.
My favorite movie is Bladerunner. Sheer genius! "Too bad she won't live. But then again, who does?"--best movie quote ever!
No discussion of the LOST finale? Have everyone interested seen it?
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I'm wondering if you prefer the more logical ending of the movie Watchmen. I preferred the comic book ending, as the villain's plan being so outrageous highlights much of the satire.
I wonder if Lost would have been even better if the writers knew at the start they had six years to tell their story. One of the problems with a lot of TV drama is that the creators don't know whether the show will be a hit and have to be stretched beyond what it can sustain (Heroes), or be axed before it can come to a satisfactory conclusion (Firefly).
And Blade Runner is definitely in my movie top 10.
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Regarding Watchmen, I admit I do like the movie ending better. It is simpler but also makes more sense to me. Still, overall the graphic novel is better.
I think most shows would be better if the creators knew how long they had. This is what made Babylon 5 the mess it was in season 4 and 5. If LOST's creators knew they had exactly six seasons, they probably could've resolved more or been less ambitious about what clues/mysteries were presented.
Why was Walt important?
What the hell was with that Disease in Syaid? It seems like they didn't want to answer it so they went all Arnst on Syaid.
Why did the Darhma inititive code the computer in the hatch with the numbers of the Losties?
Why could Hurley talk to the dead? Is it because JAcob toched Hurley? If that's the case why could Miles see the dead?
What the hell is up with all the egyptian stuff?
The Walt storyline is, I think, the one great flaw in the series. That needed to be resolved in a much more satisfactory way.
There's some question about the disease. It may have just been his own darkness and the darkness of the others that were infected. I wonder if there ever was a disease at all.
The numbers were part of the Vanzoletti (sp?) equation. It was part of their research. The equation supposedly figures out mathematically when humanity will go extinct. Dharma wanted to change the solution.
Hurley and Miles could talk to the dead because they were special, like Locke is special and Walt is special and other characters are special. That one is because it is.
Two theories about the Egyptian stuff: 1) At some point in the island's history, some ancient Egyptians got stranded there and built a little society. 2) The original inhabitants of the island were the progenitors of Egyptian culture and came to Egypt after leaving the island (perhaps through that wheel thing that send people to Tunisia). If the island is Atlantis (and there is some support for this), then perhaps all human culture/religion originated on the island. I would've liked explained a little more myself, but I think the theories kinda cover it.
The fact that they didn't know how much time they had to tell the story really did have an effect on how they made the show. They didn't know it was going to be 6 seasons until midway through season 3 and you can totally see in how the show was written that season. First half has so much filler with Nikki and Paulo and then the second half is about the freighter. I honestly think the freighter is what kicks the second half of the story off. After that they started doing the flashfowards and the pacing is a lot quicker.
Not only is Blade Runner an amazing movie... but has anyone watched the remastered blu-ray version in hi-def? They did an incredible (nay, perfect) job with the 1080p transfer. Frame by frame restoration. The ultimate transfer treatment for the best sci-fi film of all time. I had seen it like 25 times (on TV and DVD) before watching it on blu-ray and I was blown away by both the video and audio quality. For all you cubers out there with a hi-def home theater setup... it's a must own blu.
I've actually never seen Lost, so even without the spoiler tags, I skipped over that whole conversation. It's a show I really want to watch though, and may take on the challenge this summer after I finish up Battlestar season four.
Also, I've only seen Blade Runner once about ten years ago or so. I remember liking it ok, but I don't remember it being amazing. Seems like it was hard to follow. Then again, that was ten years ago so watching it now may result in a different opinion.
Try Bladerunner again. It kinda went over my head the first time, too (in my defense, I was only 12 years old). Now, it's my absolute favorite movie. It has a richness of detail that rewards multiple viewings.
It will probably be the first thing I buy on blu-ray when I gets me a blu-ray machine.
I may try and make an effort to watch it again. I was 17 when I watched it the first time, so that may have had something to do with how much I liked (or didn't like) it.
I don't have a blu-ray either, and I'm not really looking forward to porting my fairly large DVD collection over to blu-ray.
Try Bladerunner again. It kinda went over my head the first time, too (in my defense, I was only 12 years old). Now, it's my absolute favorite movie. It has a richness of detail that rewards multiple viewings.
It will probably be the first thing I buy on blu-ray when I gets me a blu-ray machine.
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Blade Runner is unique in that it's a sci-fi story that's told through dialogue and setting. Most science fiction is all about the special effects and the far-fetched storyline, but Blade Runner is really an artsy movie that sells its realism to you through the writing and the scenery. Probably the best sci-fi movie of all time, IMHO.
And it's a reason to buy a Blu-Ray player if you have an 1080p TV to watch it on. Perfect remastering and absolutely gorgeous.
Blade Runner is unique in that it's a sci-fi story that's told through dialogue and setting. Most science fiction is all about the special effects and the far-fetched storyline, but Blade Runner is really an artsy movie that sells its realism to you through the writing and the scenery. Probably the best sci-fi movie of all time, IMHO.
And it's a reason to buy a Blu-Ray player if you have an 1080p TV to watch it on. Perfect remastering and absolutely gorgeous.
Children of Men is the same way for me. Its all about the amazing setting, good characters, and dialogue. Once you get passed the story and watch it for a second or third time, you notice that almost every shot in it is held for crazy lengths and they pull off some great things with editing and timing.
That first scene in the coffee house always blows my mind. It must have taken some real movie magic to pull that off.
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Is anyone else almost always tricked by the first time you see the new spoiler link? I see "Magic 2011 Spoiler (24/249)" and I'm like "24? WTF? Sweet!" and then it's just basic lands. That happens to me every single time I think.
Where did you read that they didn't know Locke was paralyzed? I always thought that Terry O'Quinn didn't know but I'm assuming the writers did.
I think Walt was a potential candidate or something. I noticed how he knew how to throw Locke's knives with little to no training in a similar way that the MiB knew how to play that board game when he found it on the beach.
I think Miles hear dead people's last thoughts because of his time on the island as a baby.
I think Jacob explained it best when he said the whole thing is just chalk on a wall and a lot of it doesn't really mean anything.
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It was in an issue of Entertainment Weekly IIRC. I think it was an interview with the writers, but it's possible that it was Terry O'Quinn they were interviewing. I will have to dig that issue up.
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I'm wondering if you prefer the more logical ending of the movie Watchmen. I preferred the comic book ending, as the villain's plan being so outrageous highlights much of the satire.
I wonder if Lost would have been even better if the writers knew at the start they had six years to tell their story. One of the problems with a lot of TV drama is that the creators don't know whether the show will be a hit and have to be stretched beyond what it can sustain (Heroes), or be axed before it can come to a satisfactory conclusion (Firefly).
And Blade Runner is definitely in my movie top 10.
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"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean - neither more nor less." -Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking Glass
Regarding Watchmen, I admit I do like the movie ending better. It is simpler but also makes more sense to me. Still, overall the graphic novel is better.
I think most shows would be better if the creators knew how long they had. This is what made Babylon 5 the mess it was in season 4 and 5. If LOST's creators knew they had exactly six seasons, they probably could've resolved more or been less ambitious about what clues/mysteries were presented.
The Walt storyline is, I think, the one great flaw in the series. That needed to be resolved in a much more satisfactory way.
There's some question about the disease. It may have just been his own darkness and the darkness of the others that were infected. I wonder if there ever was a disease at all.
The numbers were part of the Vanzoletti (sp?) equation. It was part of their research. The equation supposedly figures out mathematically when humanity will go extinct. Dharma wanted to change the solution.
Hurley and Miles could talk to the dead because they were special, like Locke is special and Walt is special and other characters are special. That one is because it is.
Two theories about the Egyptian stuff: 1) At some point in the island's history, some ancient Egyptians got stranded there and built a little society. 2) The original inhabitants of the island were the progenitors of Egyptian culture and came to Egypt after leaving the island (perhaps through that wheel thing that send people to Tunisia). If the island is Atlantis (and there is some support for this), then perhaps all human culture/religion originated on the island. I would've liked explained a little more myself, but I think the theories kinda cover it.
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The fact that they didn't know how much time they had to tell the story really did have an effect on how they made the show. They didn't know it was going to be 6 seasons until midway through season 3 and you can totally see in how the show was written that season. First half has so much filler with Nikki and Paulo and then the second half is about the freighter. I honestly think the freighter is what kicks the second half of the story off. After that they started doing the flashfowards and the pacing is a lot quicker.
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Also, I've only seen Blade Runner once about ten years ago or so. I remember liking it ok, but I don't remember it being amazing. Seems like it was hard to follow. Then again, that was ten years ago so watching it now may result in a different opinion.
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Try Bladerunner again. It kinda went over my head the first time, too (in my defense, I was only 12 years old). Now, it's my absolute favorite movie. It has a richness of detail that rewards multiple viewings.
It will probably be the first thing I buy on blu-ray when I gets me a blu-ray machine.
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I don't have a blu-ray either, and I'm not really looking forward to porting my fairly large DVD collection over to blu-ray.
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Blade Runner is unique in that it's a sci-fi story that's told through dialogue and setting. Most science fiction is all about the special effects and the far-fetched storyline, but Blade Runner is really an artsy movie that sells its realism to you through the writing and the scenery. Probably the best sci-fi movie of all time, IMHO.
And it's a reason to buy a Blu-Ray player if you have an 1080p TV to watch it on. Perfect remastering and absolutely gorgeous.
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Children of Men is the same way for me. Its all about the amazing setting, good characters, and dialogue. Once you get passed the story and watch it for a second or third time, you notice that almost every shot in it is held for crazy lengths and they pull off some great things with editing and timing.
That first scene in the coffee house always blows my mind. It must have taken some real movie magic to pull that off.
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Whereas I've found her to be consistently good. And that is great movie.
Excellent analysis of Bladerunner, wtwlf. It's exactly why a younger sci-fi fan may not like it.
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