Here are the updates, also posting what I plan on doing with my vintage cube. I always consider cards MTGO uses.
Mardu Woe-Reaper > Legion's Landing ....... I'll probably make this switch
Spirit of the Labyrinth > Adanto Vanguard ....... Not really feeling this one, don't play standard is he any good?
Exalted Angel > Angel of Invention ....... Good move
Anticipate > Search for Azcanta ....... I'll try it
Thada Adel, Acquisitor > Augur of Bolas ....... Augur making a comeback? Don't get this one really
Careful Study > Chart a Course ....... I run Chart already, probably not cutting Study
Sidisi, Undead Vizier > Razaketh, the Foulblooded ....... Sure, I like this one
Lifebane Zombie > Kitesail Freebooter ....... Lifebane doesn't impress, but I've already got Fiend and Maggot
Lightning Mauler > Hazoret the Fervent ....... Not sure, again I don't play standard
Magus of the Wheel > Glorybringer ....... Probably doing this
Smash to Smithereens > Abrade ....... Abrade is already in mine, so many good artifacts tho. why not both?
Searing Blaze > Rite of Flame ....... IDK, really pushing Storm aren't they? Some ppl i play with consider it non-interactive and NPE
Crater's Claws > Desperate Ritual ....... see above
Brimstone Volley > Pyretic Ritual ....... yada yada
Kargan Dragonlord > Mana Flare ....... Heartbeat for red, I like this move
Seasons Past > Growing Rites of Itlimoc ....... Not big on either really
Shadowmage Infiltrator > The Scarab God ....... Scarab God looks cool, just don't wanna pay the price for one lol
Dragonlord Silumgar > Hostage Taker ....... I run Taker and it's been fun, but i won't be cutting Silumgar any time soon
Garruk, Apex Predator > Vraska, Relic Seeker ....... I could go either way, I already run Garruk so it'll stay with him
Pithing Needle > Sorcerous Spyglass ....... Not sure about this one, I run both currently. Maybe I'll cut Needle
Everflowing Chalice > God-Pharaoh's Gift ....... Bad switch IMO, is there something i'm missing on Gift? Chalice is solid in most decks
Mardu Woe-Reaper > Legion's Landing ....... I'll probably make this switch
Landing seems slow in Vintage cube. I like Woe-Reaper here. I could see argument for Landing in Legacy/Modern cube.
Spirit of the Labyrinth > Adanto Vanguard ....... Not really feeling this one, don't play standard is he any good?
I like this. I run hatebears in White in my unpowered, but was unimpressed with SotL early on. I haven't played Adanto Vanguard, it doesn't look like the best 3/1, but seems pretty good.
Exalted Angel > Angel of Invention ....... Good move
Very good switch
Anticipate > Search for Azcanta ....... I'll try it
Meh, I suppose it's worth testing. Anticipate's not the best cantrip by any means, but it does replace itself unlike Azcanta. Azcanta seems really slow to flip, though the backside is great. I think its worth testing, but I wouldn't be surprised to see them go back during the next iteration, either.
Thada Adel, Acquisitor > Augur of Bolas ....... Augur making a comeback? Don't get this one really
I really like Thada Adel, and don't really like Augur. Seems like a downgrade, though maybe they thought Thada Adel was too good, so they decided to downgrade? I don't think it was too good, but Augur's definitely worse.
Careful Study > Chart a Course ....... I run Chart already, probably not cutting Study
Yep, either run Chart, or run both.
Sidisi, Undead Vizier > Razaketh, the Foulblooded ....... Sure, I like this one
Sure, Razaketh seems fine for Reanimator, and Sidisi was really just okay.
Lifebane Zombie > Kitesail Freebooter ....... Lifebane doesn't impress, but I've already got Fiend and Maggot
Don't really like this. I was fairly unimpressed with freebooter in Ixalan Limited, I don't see it being better in Vintage Cube. Lifebane was a solid sideboard card.
Lightning Mauler > Hazoret the Fervent ....... Not sure, again I don't play standard
Meh, I could go either way on this.
Magus of the Wheel > Glorybringer ....... Probably doing this
I was surprisingly impressed by Magus of the Wheel during the last Vintage Cube. This seems fine, though.
Smash to Smithereens > Abrade ....... Abrade is already in mine, so many good artifacts tho. why not both?
I'm fine with adding Abrade, and it probably should be in, but not over Smash to Smithereens. Smash is far better.
Searing Blaze > Rite of Flame ....... IDK, really pushing Storm aren't they? Some ppl i play with consider it non-interactive and NPE
Crater's Claws > Desperate Ritual ....... see above
Brimstone Volley > Pyretic Ritual ....... yada yada
Kargan Dragonlord > Mana Flare ....... Heartbeat for red, I like this move
This is an interesting push. Cutting some of the weaker Burn cards to push Storm to be more Red. Cutting a Fireball is awkward when adding Mana Flare and red rituals, but if they feel there's enough fireballs for payoff already, maybe.
Seasons Past > Growing Rites of Itlimoc ....... Not big on either really
Agreed.
Shadowmage Infiltrator > The Scarab God ....... Scarab God looks cool, just don't wanna pay the price for one lol
Dragonlord Silumgar > Hostage Taker ....... I run Taker and it's been fun, but i won't be cutting Silumgar any time soon
MODO's cube is full of Planeswalkers, so I really like Dragonlord here. I'd prefer cut Inflitrator for Taker, and keep Dragonlord.
Garruk, Apex Predator > Vraska, Relic Seeker ....... I could go either way, I already run Garruk so it'll stay with him
Seems fine.
Pithing Needle > Sorcerous Spyglass ....... Not sure about this one, I run both currently. Maybe I'll cut Needle
I like this switch, a lot.
Everflowing Chalice > God-Pharaoh's Gift ....... Bad switch IMO, is there something i'm missing on Gift? Chalice is solid in most decks
Anticipate > Search for Azcanta ....... I'll try it
Meh, I suppose it's worth testing. Anticipate's not the best cantrip by any means, but it does replace itself unlike Azcanta. Azcanta seems really slow to flip, though the backside is great. I think its worth testing, but I wouldn't be surprised to see them go back during the next iteration, either.
Search for Azcanta is the truth. Posted a lot of findings / results in the Search for Azcanta SCD, the card was definitely a sleeper. A lot of people have been very impressed with it in my cube and ended up adding it in their own cubes.
Search for Azcanta is the truth. Posted a lot of findings / results in the Search for Azcanta SCD, the card was definitely a sleeper. A lot of people have been very impressed with it in my cube and ended up adding it in their own cubes.
I'd keep Woe Reaper and leave Landing out.
I'd find room for Angel of Invention, but I'd find a different cut and keep Exalted Angel.
Smash to Smithereens should stay, but Abrade should also come in.
I think both Needle and Spyglass should be in, 100%.
I'd keep Everflowing Chalice.
The rest of the changes either look good, or involve cards I don't care about either way.
Another 6 months, another update. Not finding much discussion (Vintage Cube is the best peeps!)
I had already made a lot of these changes myself. WOTC must have looked at my cube on cubetutor (or maybe they are just THAT obvious)
Razaketh, the Foulblooded > Demonlord Belzenlok ....... I run both, my group loves "cheating fatties"
Phyrexian Arena > Nezumi Shortfang ....... This was actually in the last iteration of VC, don't care for it or the other black card
Collective Brutality > Nezumi Graverobber ....... ^^^^^See above
Desecration Demon > Gonti, Lord of Luxury ....... Ran both for a time, NO ONE played Gonti so he got the boot. Doubt I'll add him again, doesn't really have an archetype IMO. Maybe I'm not seeing it, but I'm not the only one since he never got picked above 13
Gurmag Angler > Noxious Gearhulk ....... I prefer the Gearhulk, already running
Skinrender > Ravenous Chupacabra ....... Easy switch here, already done
Magus of the Will > Arguel's Blood Fast ....... Think I'll keep Magus, Storm & spells matter. Although not seeing much play, just not a fan of the Blood Fast
Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet > Vraska's Contempt ....... Not currently running either. If i can grab a cheap Contempt I may cut Magus or something
Diabolic Edict > Cast Down ....... Why not both?
Reflector Mage > Teferi, Hero of Dominaria ....... I slept on Teferi, like many others. Guess I'll have to drop 30-40 and get one *SIGH*
Growing Rites of Itlimoc > Thrashing Brontodon ....... I like this switch, never ran Growing Rites. It's no Search for Azcanta
Traverse the Ulvenwald > Ancient Stirrings ....... Don't currently run either, But I'd take Stirrings
Managorger Hydra > Jadelight Ranger ....... I run both, but the Hydra is on the brink of dropping out
Linvala, the Preserver > Lyra Dawnbringer ....... Linvala was trash. Lyra was an auto-include due to the number of Angels
Vryn Wingmare > History of Benalia ....... No brainer, Horse is no Thalia
Seeker of the Way > Benalish Marshal ....... Never was impressed with Seeker, I'll make this switch
Soldier of the Pantheon > Skymarcher Aspirant ....... Already done
Reckless Bushwhacker > Goblin Chainwhirler ....... Bushwhacker was pretty bad imo. I know Chainwhirler is dominating standard but does it really have a spot in Vintage Cube?
Guttersnipe > Rekindling Phoenix ....... Guttersnipe adds up in Storm, I've not played with the Phoenix. I'll consider it but another pricey addition.
Harsh Mentor > Dire Fleet Daredevil ....... I rock both, solid 2 drops for R
Mental Misstep > Blink of an Eye ....... Is blink really this good? IDK about this one
Boros Charm > Wear // Tear ....... Good switch, Izzet Charm stands alone now
Ral Zarek > Jhoira, Weatherlight Captain ....... Not feeling it....
Hedron Archive > Everflowing Chalice ....... I never dropped Chalice, Ramp decks LOVE it. I currently run both, but I have about 10 more artifacts than MTGO
Scroll Rack > Lotus Petal ....... I run both and always have. I'll consider dropping Rack, it is VERY slow.
God-Pharaoh's Gift > Karn, Scion of Urza ....... I run both, but Gift doesn't see much action.
Westvale Abbey > Field of Ruin ....... No one ever picks the Abbey, I'll probably make the switch
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Mardu Woe-Reaper > Legion's Landing ....... I'll probably make this switch
Spirit of the Labyrinth > Adanto Vanguard ....... Not really feeling this one, don't play standard is he any good?
Exalted Angel > Angel of Invention ....... Good move
Anticipate > Search for Azcanta ....... I'll try it
Thada Adel, Acquisitor > Augur of Bolas ....... Augur making a comeback? Don't get this one really
Careful Study > Chart a Course ....... I run Chart already, probably not cutting Study
Sidisi, Undead Vizier > Razaketh, the Foulblooded ....... Sure, I like this one
Lifebane Zombie > Kitesail Freebooter ....... Lifebane doesn't impress, but I've already got Fiend and Maggot
Lightning Mauler > Hazoret the Fervent ....... Not sure, again I don't play standard
Magus of the Wheel > Glorybringer ....... Probably doing this
Smash to Smithereens > Abrade ....... Abrade is already in mine, so many good artifacts tho. why not both?
Searing Blaze > Rite of Flame ....... IDK, really pushing Storm aren't they? Some ppl i play with consider it non-interactive and NPE
Crater's Claws > Desperate Ritual ....... see above
Brimstone Volley > Pyretic Ritual ....... yada yada
Kargan Dragonlord > Mana Flare ....... Heartbeat for red, I like this move
Seasons Past > Growing Rites of Itlimoc ....... Not big on either really
Shadowmage Infiltrator > The Scarab God ....... Scarab God looks cool, just don't wanna pay the price for one lol
Dragonlord Silumgar > Hostage Taker ....... I run Taker and it's been fun, but i won't be cutting Silumgar any time soon
Garruk, Apex Predator > Vraska, Relic Seeker ....... I could go either way, I already run Garruk so it'll stay with him
Pithing Needle > Sorcerous Spyglass ....... Not sure about this one, I run both currently. Maybe I'll cut Needle
Everflowing Chalice > God-Pharaoh's Gift ....... Bad switch IMO, is there something i'm missing on Gift? Chalice is solid in most decks
Landing seems slow in Vintage cube. I like Woe-Reaper here. I could see argument for Landing in Legacy/Modern cube.
I like this. I run hatebears in White in my unpowered, but was unimpressed with SotL early on. I haven't played Adanto Vanguard, it doesn't look like the best 3/1, but seems pretty good.
Very good switch
Meh, I suppose it's worth testing. Anticipate's not the best cantrip by any means, but it does replace itself unlike Azcanta. Azcanta seems really slow to flip, though the backside is great. I think its worth testing, but I wouldn't be surprised to see them go back during the next iteration, either.
I really like Thada Adel, and don't really like Augur. Seems like a downgrade, though maybe they thought Thada Adel was too good, so they decided to downgrade? I don't think it was too good, but Augur's definitely worse.
Yep, either run Chart, or run both.
Sure, Razaketh seems fine for Reanimator, and Sidisi was really just okay.
Don't really like this. I was fairly unimpressed with freebooter in Ixalan Limited, I don't see it being better in Vintage Cube. Lifebane was a solid sideboard card.
Meh, I could go either way on this.
I was surprisingly impressed by Magus of the Wheel during the last Vintage Cube. This seems fine, though.
I'm fine with adding Abrade, and it probably should be in, but not over Smash to Smithereens. Smash is far better.
This is an interesting push. Cutting some of the weaker Burn cards to push Storm to be more Red. Cutting a Fireball is awkward when adding Mana Flare and red rituals, but if they feel there's enough fireballs for payoff already, maybe.
Agreed.
MODO's cube is full of Planeswalkers, so I really like Dragonlord here. I'd prefer cut Inflitrator for Taker, and keep Dragonlord.
Seems fine.
I like this switch, a lot.
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Search for Azcanta is the truth. Posted a lot of findings / results in the Search for Azcanta SCD, the card was definitely a sleeper. A lot of people have been very impressed with it in my cube and ended up adding it in their own cubes.
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/the-cube-forum/cube-card-and-archetype/782640-xln-cube-search-for-azcanta-azcanta-the-sunken?page=2
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That's good to hear. I'll look forward to testing it during the Vintage Cube, and keep it on my radar to add to my cube in that case.
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I'd keep Woe Reaper and leave Landing out.
I'd find room for Angel of Invention, but I'd find a different cut and keep Exalted Angel.
Smash to Smithereens should stay, but Abrade should also come in.
I think both Needle and Spyglass should be in, 100%.
I'd keep Everflowing Chalice.
The rest of the changes either look good, or involve cards I don't care about either way.
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I had already made a lot of these changes myself. WOTC must have looked at my cube on cubetutor (or maybe they are just THAT obvious)
Razaketh, the Foulblooded > Demonlord Belzenlok ....... I run both, my group loves "cheating fatties"
Phyrexian Arena > Nezumi Shortfang ....... This was actually in the last iteration of VC, don't care for it or the other black card
Collective Brutality > Nezumi Graverobber ....... ^^^^^See above
Desecration Demon > Gonti, Lord of Luxury ....... Ran both for a time, NO ONE played Gonti so he got the boot. Doubt I'll add him again, doesn't really have an archetype IMO. Maybe I'm not seeing it, but I'm not the only one since he never got picked above 13
Gurmag Angler > Noxious Gearhulk ....... I prefer the Gearhulk, already running
Skinrender > Ravenous Chupacabra ....... Easy switch here, already done
Magus of the Will > Arguel's Blood Fast ....... Think I'll keep Magus, Storm & spells matter. Although not seeing much play, just not a fan of the Blood Fast
Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet > Vraska's Contempt ....... Not currently running either. If i can grab a cheap Contempt I may cut Magus or something
Diabolic Edict > Cast Down ....... Why not both?
Reflector Mage > Teferi, Hero of Dominaria ....... I slept on Teferi, like many others. Guess I'll have to drop 30-40 and get one *SIGH*
Growing Rites of Itlimoc > Thrashing Brontodon ....... I like this switch, never ran Growing Rites. It's no Search for Azcanta
Traverse the Ulvenwald > Ancient Stirrings ....... Don't currently run either, But I'd take Stirrings
Managorger Hydra > Jadelight Ranger ....... I run both, but the Hydra is on the brink of dropping out
Linvala, the Preserver > Lyra Dawnbringer ....... Linvala was trash. Lyra was an auto-include due to the number of Angels
Vryn Wingmare > History of Benalia ....... No brainer, Horse is no Thalia
Seeker of the Way > Benalish Marshal ....... Never was impressed with Seeker, I'll make this switch
Soldier of the Pantheon > Skymarcher Aspirant ....... Already done
Reckless Bushwhacker > Goblin Chainwhirler ....... Bushwhacker was pretty bad imo. I know Chainwhirler is dominating standard but does it really have a spot in Vintage Cube?
Guttersnipe > Rekindling Phoenix ....... Guttersnipe adds up in Storm, I've not played with the Phoenix. I'll consider it but another pricey addition.
Harsh Mentor > Dire Fleet Daredevil ....... I rock both, solid 2 drops for R
Mental Misstep > Blink of an Eye ....... Is blink really this good? IDK about this one
Boros Charm > Wear // Tear ....... Good switch, Izzet Charm stands alone now
Ral Zarek > Jhoira, Weatherlight Captain ....... Not feeling it....
Hedron Archive > Everflowing Chalice ....... I never dropped Chalice, Ramp decks LOVE it. I currently run both, but I have about 10 more artifacts than MTGO
Scroll Rack > Lotus Petal ....... I run both and always have. I'll consider dropping Rack, it is VERY slow.
God-Pharaoh's Gift > Karn, Scion of Urza ....... I run both, but Gift doesn't see much action.
Westvale Abbey > Field of Ruin ....... No one ever picks the Abbey, I'll probably make the switch