I agree, which goes back to the point of Green-Aggro getting better when other colors have more options. Not being forced to run RR 2-drops in Red, for instance, means that you're free to drop an Experiment One on your first turn without loss in tempo.
fwiw, even though a lot of disagreements happened in this thread and a few emotions were heated early, think this is a productive discussion!
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Maybe for you it can't. Our most commonly played draft format uses 100% of the cube list, and our average uses 75% of it. We can have a powerful green aggro build in every draft if we want.
Maybe that's the difference between our groups, but I think my point is still valid. If you have have to draft a majority of the cube to make green available as an aggressive archetype, then it's not as dense as the other colors.
But even when you guys do, it's usually respectful with reasoned and rational points on both sides. Makes lurking much more satisfying when you know you're going to a place where adults talk to one another.
This exercise has been extremely informative; it's made me question some of the cards in my Cube, particularly the Gold section. Thanks to the rankings, I've added Dragonlord Atarka and Mirari's Wake in my Cube, and they have been fantastic; I've seen Atarka take over a board state, and I've seen Mirari's Wake into Upheaval, as well as into Time Spiral; solid additions both.
Secure the Wastes has been a fun card to cast after Mirari's Wake as well. It usually makes 22 power worth of creatures at instant speed when it's played directly behind Wake. Entreat the Angels is also a fun topdeck with Wake in play, but that's a bit harder to set up.
The Shards/Wedges results and the Overall Voting threads are posted, as they were already written from yesterday and didn't change. Other updates (links and results on this thread's second post, the google spreadsheet) I'll only manage to do later today, or possibly only tomorrow, so don't worry if they remain outdated for now.
Thank you all for the support and go vote.
Thanks for doing all the work and making this happen man! Adding in Abrupt Decay for the first time due to these results. I overlooked it for far too long.
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Multiple view points, examples etc.
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Maybe that's the difference between our groups, but I think my point is still valid. If you have have to draft a majority of the cube to make green available as an aggressive archetype, then it's not as dense as the other colors.
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Then we agree. What the hell were we arguing about again?
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Thank you all for the support and go vote.
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I second this request - it'd be a shame if this just fell into the depths after all the work that went into it.
Done and done.
EDIT: And move for even better book-keeping.
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